Are North American Women Really THAT Bad?

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It’s been interesting to read the comments people have left on that article I wrote for Vagabondish.  While the article was entitled ‘What It’s Like to be Female and Foreign in Japan’ (foreign as in non-Japanese), the focus of discussion has strayed from the topic of  a western woman’s perspective on dating abroad and zeroed in on the subject of North American women and how self-centered, demanding, spoiled and unattractive they all are.

I wish I was exaggerating.

Here are a few of the comments:

“I have traveled all over the world conducting a multi-billion dollar business, and American/Canadian women are valued about as much as a homeless man in New York City. They are viewed as feminazis, narcissistic, histrionic, materialistic, shallow, and useless.

Now I am not one to generalize, but even from my own experience, I cannot say this viewpoint is not that far from the truth. Why else do you think America has one of the highest divorce rates in the world? Generally speaking, American women make the worst WIVES, but are known for being great for CASUAL UNATTACHED SEX.”  – Allan

“…Western women have ridiculous material expectations of their men and expect to be put on a pedestal at all times (instead of being equitable partners). Bringing little to the sexless & boring relationship other than expensive bathroom faucets, obesity, credit card debt and demands to work harder to afford undeserved luxuries to fit in with their consumer culture.”  – Tommy

“The problem is that American women are known the world over as being self-centered and demanding princesses who feel like men should be kissing up to their posteriors.  Not so in Europe, and most assuredly not true in Japan.” – Jeff

“You can keep the Western women in the west. They are fat, evil and smell like yeast. in addition, they think that everyone should be nice to them. They seem to be expecting some thing that they do not deserve. I say stay away eeeuuuwwww!” – Unchi-kun

Holy cow.

I don’t know about you, but while reading some of these, I had a mental image of a giant, Godzilla-sized slice of wonder bread stomping around Tokyo hollering “Be nice to me or else I’ll eat you!  Muahahaha!”

If this is how men abroad view the female population of North America, well then forget sewing a Canadian flag to my backpack, next time I leave the U.S. I’ll wear a fur hat and pretend to be Russian.  I’m kidding.

But in all seriousness, if you think that those few comments are an anomaly, try googling “demanding American women” or “spoiled American women” and you’ll see how many blog or forum posts have been written on the subject.  Some of the sites even encourage men to boycott dating American women altogether; as if they were toxic mold or a hazardous chemical, more deserving of a warning label than any decent man’s attention.

While it would certainly be easy to write their blog posts and comments off as the bitter words of the burned and broken-hearted, I think there’s some truth to their assertions.  I’ve written about how Americans have a reputation for being shallow and superficial in the past and as anyone would agree, Americans won’t be winning any awards in the healthy eating department any time soon.

But aren’t these stereotypes (the idea that all Americans are overweight, demanding and superficial) equally true for both genders?  Why are the female half of the population being given all the blame here?

Whether these mens’ reasons for their ban on North-American women are justified or not, it would seem to me that finding a life partner is hard enough as it is.  Why make it any more difficult by swearing off 180 million citizens of this planet (the approximate number of women living in Canada and the US) just because they happen to be born in the wrong corner of the globe?

I think that so long as you and the other person share common values and interests and there’s some chemistry there, that little line under ‘place of birth’ in a person’s passport shouldn’t matter much.

What do you think?  Is there any truth to the North American woman’s bad rep?

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Comments ( 637 )

  1. Ania

    Anyone who starts a comment with something like “I have traveled all over the world conducting a multi-billion dollar business" is a sad little loser with no accomplishments who pours out his self-disappointment and bitterness spreading internet hatred so I wouldn't worry about his opinion. At least your dating pool is free from all the prejudiced bigots. No point in trying to convince them- you wouldn't want to date someone so prone to prejudice.

  2. roy

    Me: American man who's dated both American & mainland Chinese women. There is a saying in China that if you want a good wife you should marry a Japanese. Don't know if its true. I've found Chinese woman to be selfish and immature. Some western men who haven't been as successful romantically in their home nations come to Asia and find they are exotic and sought after (for their looks, money, to make beautiful babies with, for better sexual technique, etc) then they may start to blame western woman for their prior lack, when really they are benefiting from being a relatively rare commodity. This meme concludes with the idea that you cannot take the Asian girl back to the US without ruining her.

  3. Vin

    It's true, North American women have earned a bad rap for themselves. On one hand, the North American guys overseas who are chiming in against American women ARE usually angry spurned guys who couldn't get a date in America. They're pissed. They moved abroad mostly so they could get laid. A lot of them are actually losers who shouldn't even be listened to. But on the other hand, I can comment on American women--particularly women in San Francisco, where I live. Friends and I joke about it a lot; the women here don't try very hard in the dating game, but expect the world from guys. Maybe it has something to do with the city being made up of nerdy guys. Nerdy guys will do what women demand, anything to get laid. So the power balance in general is skewed far in favor of women. At least in the SF bay area. I'll just use dress as one of many examples. Women in San Francisco dress like crap. They wear torn up Converse All Stars and old jeans. A hot girl can pull that off, but you have to be incredibly hot. SF women generally aren't up to that standard, and come across as lazy, entitled slobs. All you have to do is visit London, Tokyo, Seoul, Hong Kong to see the drastic difference between women--the effort they put into dating, and how they present themselves as opposed to N. American girls. I always joke with my friends that American women should be shipped off to Seoul for a couple years after college to be humbled. ha ha

  4. JT

    Travel to Europe and Japan. Look at the people as you walk the streets. Then compare them to what you see in a large US city (the populations of our smaller towns are not as grim). I don't think the inferiority of the North American population as far as looks is even debatable. As far as the criticisms of North Americans applying to the men as well as the women, I agree to some extent. North American men are considered slightly below average (although I would describe us as being significantly below average our expat population tends to represent us well) but, unlike the women, not untouchables . American women abroad are much more likely to be overweight than the men. Also, American men are generally seen as friendly and easygoing (although buffoonish). It is really only the women who are seen as having horrible personalities. And I think this entire discussion has been in the context of the developed world. I don't think anyone is suggesting American women can't hold their own versus, for example, Guatemalans, Chinese, Mexicans, etc.

  5. Reannon Muth

    Your comments are really fascinating. In all the time I spent spent abroad, not once did I hear any of this from anyone. But I guess no one would have said flat out "I hate American women and here's why..." to my face, not when they knew that I was an American. @ Roy - I think you're right about how the unlucky-in-love go to Asia, get lucky and then blame the women in their home countries for why they were having problems before. In order to keep their new-found sense of self-esteem in tact, they have to find a reason to justify their lack of luck at home. It's too bad that that the reason is usually "Well the American women were all stuck-up, ugly bi*ches anyway, so what do I care? They don't deserve me..." The fact that there might be a grain of truth to that, doesn't help any. It's really too bad though that in order for them to be happy abroad, they have to develop a hatred for those at home. @ Vin - Yeah, there are some pretty bad dressers here. I think the emphasis on comfort (I.e., the sweatpant and sneaker look) hasn't helped any. But is that really all that big of a deal?

  6. JT

    "I think you’re right about how the unlucky-in-love go to Asia, get lucky and then blame the women in their home countries for why they were having problems before. In order to keep their newfound sense of self-esteem in tact, they have to find a reason to justify their lack of luck at home. It’s too bad that that the reason is usually “Well the American women were all stuck-up, ugly bi*ches anyway, so what do I care? They don’t deserve me…” Odd that you seem fixated on that issue, particularly since your post had to do with the perception of American women by non-Americans and that most of your male posters (myself included) were either non-Americans or Americans living in their home country. There does seem to be some self-esteem preservation going on but, with the exception of a few of your male posters, you seem to be the one engaged in it ("It is a fact American women are super desirable. Although reality does not seem to conform to this belief, that is only because foreign men are so intimidated by how great we are and American guys are losers who wish they could have us.")

  7. Reannon Muth

    Maybe I didn't explain myself very well so let me try again. Let's say I was overweight and had a tough time dating in the US because of it. Then let's say I moved to somewhere like Samoa (for example) where being shapely and voluptuous is considered a positive and where the heavier you are the prettier you are. Under that cultural definition of beauty, I would probably have an easier time dating and be happier because of it. Would it then be fair to dismiss all American men as being evil, insensitive, shallow fatests just because they were unable to overlook my physical flaws and see the wonderful person behind them? Probably not. The fact that I've found a better match in a country away from the one I was born in, shouldn't mean that I need to hate the men I left behind to make myself feel justified in my decision to leave. And I don't think American men are losers! 'Intimidated' was probably the wrong word choice. I find it hard to relate to men and women of ANY culture who haven't traveled much or lived abroad. I hope that doesn't sound snobby...it's just the truth. I guess it's like anything...you're drawn to people with whom you share similar interests. I'm sure someone passionate about skateboarding or chess or 12th century Italian doorknobs (to name a few random examples) wouldn't be at all interested in me for just that same reason. It wouldn't be personal and it certainly wouldn't have anything to do with my nationality. The fact that the majority of Americans (male and female) don't travel, means that a lot of people in this country have a tough time relating to some of my experiences and life choices over the last decade (and visa versa). But that doesn't mean I would ever swear off dating or being friends with other Americans, it would just mean that I'd have to look a little harder to find ones that I have things in common with. That's all. But I do think the Japanese men were a little intimidated. But who could blame 'em? I was 'super desirable' after all...Ha, ha. I'm kidding!

  8. JT

    "Would it then be fair to dismiss all American men as being evil, insensitive, shallow fatests just because they were unable to overlook my physical flaws and see the wonderful person behind them? Probably not. The fact that I’ve found a better match in a country away from the one I was born in, shouldn’t mean that I need to hate the men I left behind to make myself feel justified in my decision to leave." First, I disagree with your assumption that the typical expat man in Tokyo is the equivalent of a fat woman who has found some warped world where he is considered attractive. Just given the nature of the expat population, they tend to be wealthier and better educated than the general North American population. Physically, I would say they seemed average or better. There are a fair number of eccentrics but that seems to be the case with expats generally. If you are talking about English teachers, I really couldn't say. It seems a bit self-serving to say that those who didn't chase you are inferior and the theme runs through all your posts (although I don't deny there is a hardcord group of manga fan types, they are far from typical). American men get better women in Tokyo because the women there are better. It would be odd if they didn't. I also don't think there was a lot of North American woman hate going on. I think most North American men are pleasantly surprised to find themselves in a place with a much higher quality female population and that may at times take the form of making snide comments about North American women but generally the feeling towards American women was indifference. There aren't enough of them around for them to be foremost in anyone's mind. I like Western women but gave up finding one in Tokyo because there were not many unattached ones around. "I find it hard to relate to men and women of ANY culture who haven’t traveled much or lived abroad. I hope that doesn’t sound snobby…it’s just the truth." In that case, shouldn't you have found tons of guy in Tokyo? Just by being a foreigner there you are thrown in with a lot of other expats with a lot of travel experience. Again, I can't really speak about the typical English teacher. By your own standards, it seems this should have given you an ideal dating environment. Most Japanese who study/live abroad are female so that would have made things a bit more difficult if you wanted to date Japanese. PS - I really like your blog. I just thought your posts on this topic were a bit disappointing. It was the tired old American woman self-justification and didn't show self-examination or self-criticism. I think it would have been more interesting if your discussion of the topic had focused on your obvious difficulty in adapting to life as an expat, a new environment, what the obstacles were, what you did to try to overcome them. You discussed that a bit but for the most part you just seemed to say "everyone is mean to me but I don't care because they suck." It also would have been interesting to read more about the feelings of resentment, rejection, jealousy and betrayal you felt towards Western/American men (and which dripped from your post), how and why they developed, personal experiences, etc. I have never understood the almost bestial anger many expat women feel towards expat men and Japanese women. Perhaps it is biological but it would be interesting to hear an honest self-critical explanation from an American woman.

  9. Tiago

    Here in Brazil we view American women as good for sex and bad for love.

  10. Lauren

    The thing I find most disturbing in these comments is the implicit notion of ownership. Judging from what a lot of these guys have written, a Western female (and maybe any female) is measured in terms of her attractiveness, subservience and datability---in short, "what good are you to me?" Take the SF dress example. That's totally me in Converse and jeans. I dress that way cause it's comfortable. The objective in my getting dressed every morning isn't to attract men. I dress for my lifestyle, for me. Is that what these commentors mean by "self-centered"?---that I live my life for me, in a way that makes me happy? That just strikes me as really really sad. I wouldn't be interested in a guy that came at me that way, and wouldn't expect a guy whose interactions with the opposite sex were framed entirely in that context to be remotely attracted to me. But the thing that really bums me out about this whole discussion is this focus on outside validation: having vs. not having a mate, attracting vs. not attracting the opposite sex. When I say that I'm living my life for me, I mean that I want to be the source of my own happiness, not constantly searching for this acceptance and approval from men to measure my self-worth. And I don't think that's just me being a feminist; I hear that kind of desperate searching in the male commentors even louder than in the female ones. We're all okay, guys. We're perfectly okay just the way we are, and we really don't need either women vying for our affection or men lavishing attention on us to feel worthy or whole. We are worthy, just the way we are. (I'm apparently a hippie too.) Thanks for opening up this discussion. Super fascinating stuff.

  11. roy

    @JT, perhaps you haven't read the original Vagabondish post and its comments? it is only the subset of hateful responses that we are discussing here - not the "typical expat man in Tokyo" whatever that means. You finally have to take great pains to explain that you really do like this blog, and why? because you just shat all over it. @Vin, the dressing habits of SF women don't equate to being called feminazis. If you like waiting a couple of hours for a woman to prepare herself every time she goes out in public, then yes you will probably live better in Seoul. But this is not the bad rap we are discussing here. @Lauren, psychographics (depressingly) tells us that self-actualization is completely foreign to most people. @Reannon, recalling my 4 years in Beijing, I dated local women exclusively. That wasn't a conscious choice but it was easy, and, well, you don't usually visit an Italian restaurant to order hamburgers, though they might actually be excellent. I did have some encounters with a delightful Canadian woman who let me know she was available if I were interested. For purely personal reasons I decided not to pursue that, and with no explanation to her (we hadn't approached the point where that was required), she probably saw that as yet another example of expat male indifference to expat women. How the personal becomes statistical.

  12. Ekua

    LOL at generalizing about the women of a large city and even more LOLs about generalizing about the women of a large country.

  13. George

    Yes, they are. But it's not completely their fault. They are partly victims of "American Exceptionalism" & feminist propaganda, the whole litanies of which I will not go into here. First, about your experience. I think you stepped into a network-coverage hole & are experiencing cognitive dissonance. You have been relentlessly propagandized throughout your North American upbringing to believe you are the best, brightest, most desirable thing on planet earth. That you are more empowered, more intelligent, more evolved, more superior than the other people of the world, and moreso than even your North American male counterpart. When you travel to countries lacking this insistent "American Cinderella" propaganda, and find that males & females there behave differently than what you have been lead to assume is correct, you suffer cognitive dissonance. This dissonance expresses itself as contempt, resentment, and anxious/avoidant responses in most who experience it. Your blog post dripping with sarcastic diminutives of your Male counterparts, coupled with your blog replies denying said diminutives confirms the above emotions. After living abroad for over a decade, I have seen the same pattern many times. Get over it. If you want men to treat you better, you have to be better. If you want men to like you, you must do things they like. Powerful men don't have to change for you. Since abroad, they are not propagandized by the North American feminist Education & State establishment, they probably won't. Some will perhaps meet you halfway. But then you'd probably just call them a "loser" anyway. So go somewhere else, where maybe mates are evaluated differently. Maybe some men value the sloppy-dressing, shrill, judgmental, obnoxious pseudo-men most American women have become.. My advice is to stay in America, where you can have all your naive fantasies about your empowered, assertive, self-actualizing, inherent superiority coddled. You are not great simply because you are from North America. Not even if you are an American. You are not great simply because you are a woman. And men don't care for your poorly-informed judgments on their culture, behavior, or personalities. Nobody wants to change to accommodate your mythic sense of self-aggrandizement. Out here, nobody has to. Your lazy, high-minded opinions on the treatment you believe to be entitled to have no value to the majority of men on planet earth. Americans are stuck with you. We are not. You can either prove your value to other people or be left out on the street. Don't take it the wrong way, American Woman. We (men) are just sick of being criticized & told what to do by women who haven't earned our respect. Any man who tried same would get punched in the face. But you're a woman. So we marginalize you. We ignore you. That's why we don't date you. That's why we won't marry you. Sincerely, George

  14. Neale

    Found this blog through that article, which as I mentioned is probably one of the best things I have read in a while.. I was recently in the states for 13 years now in Asia.. and can see how some of the negative comments towards American women can have a little truth attached to them... whilst in the states I ended up with a small circle of friends all of whom where either well traveled or foreign, those people not in these two categories often merit a lot of the negativity been wrote...

  15. Erica McGillivray

    Oh, no, you mean women might want respect or be treated as an equal? Most of those comments I saw not as a condemnation of Western women, but a condemnation of women who aren't submissive and hence, don't make good wives. Sorry, buddy, but my purpose on this planet is not to be your wife. Unfortunately, Asian women are still stereotyped as submissive. The problem is the blanket statements, fetishization, and shallow views of culture differences (stereotyping), not that Western women are so horrible.

  16. ool.

    What a fascinating discussion. Not being an American/Canadian woman (Eastern Europe), I don't want to comment on the American issue here, but would like to touch on the original Western-woman-in-Tokyo article. I lived in Taiwan for some time and setting aside the local men (to whom I wasn't actually invisible, so maybe it's better there than in Japan), I felt very frustrated by the almost complete lack of interest from my fellow ex-pats. At one point I realised that what vexed me was that they often couldn't even hold a proper conversation with their local girlfriends, either because of the language barrier or just the simple lack of common subjects. I would think: 'why does he even want to waste his time with her when they don't have ANYTHING to talk about? Is he really only after a nice face?' I think it just makes them feel good when the girl tells them 'you're so strong/tall/smart/funny' without any actual effort on their part (Roy's theory applies here). It's just so easy to get a local girlfriend who's on a lookout for a foreign boyfriend, why would they bother trying to get a girl that won't be impressed with the simple fact that he's foreign? I can actually understand that. I also understand that I shouldn't be bothered by a bunch of guys who choose the easiest option. But it was still very hard on my self-esteem :-) The most appreciation I got was from the local girls (not in a sexual way!) and the local guys. From my fellow ex-pats I would get comments like: 'why is your hair short? Are you a lesbian?' (no, I just look better in short hair) or 'Why don't you wear hotpants like the Taiwanese girls?' (not a sloppy dresser, but I refused to follow the unofficial dress-code, which was undies-length shorts and boots and which made you look sexy in the teenage prostitute way). I found I was constantly challenged on why I don't try harder to fit a WESTERN guy's image of what I should be. And granted, it does happen in my home country too, but much less, and I was far from being alone with my problem in Taiwan. I don't want to sound like I resent all male ex-pats or Asian girls, so I'll readily admit that not all guys are like that and they sometimes have the good sense to recognise a great gal when they see one (even if she's not Asian) :-) The same goes to Asian girls: not all of them are serial foreign-boyfriend hunters, they can be really great companions :-) And Western guys and Asian girls do engage into relationships that are actually great, and not just a way to make yourself feel better/impress friends/spend time nicely on the way to something better. So there's hope for everyone. It just takes longer in some parts.

  17. CptFreakout

    I have visited a number of sites like this and every American Woman says the same thing, we want to dominate women and we want submissive women. The sad part is it isnt just American men saying American women are spoiled and unrealistic its Men from other countries saying bad things about American Women. I have traveled from Panama to london And its a hard truth American women are spoiled and unable to cope with the real world.

  18. Jim

    To address this properly would take volumes. Fact is, both American Men and Women have gone berzerk for the most part. All by design in MHO. Now for you women who this does not apply, don't be offended. I am not lumping all women in here, or men. I include myself when it comes to being spoiled comparatively to other cultures, but I try to keep common values as my guide. When it comes to relationships, the facts point to mass divorce and confusion. If the basic premise is to find a true friend and lover, who takes the time to know and love us for who we are, one, who would sacrifice to make us happy, when needed, to help us see our way through difficulties. It seems, most Americans, especially women, have lost that ability when it comes to nurturing their men. Expectations of materialism have become the new security. No longer do they find security in the idea that a man will always be there for them, they just take this for granted and love becomes secondary to the almighty dollar. The vision of success that dominates this culture is one of a big home, perfect kids and of course the SUV. Ths must be achieved at all costs and usually the cost is the health and well being of the poor schluck of a man who must literally sacrifice his health and well being in lieu of being seen as a loser. No longer is he admired or noticed for who he is, his moral character is secondary to this dream of the average american woman. It is a sad state of affairs indeed. A 'good' man is most commonly associated with a 'rich' man. being rich in spirit, and other noble qualities such as morality, means little. As austerity takes it place here in the USA soon the dream bubble will burst and hopefully through it all some semblance of reality will take hold in the hearts and minds of the american women who are living for the most part in a self centered, nightmare. As for me, if I could just find one who cared more for my well being as well as physical and emotional needs, more than she cares for her fingernails, or any other of the myriad of things that capture her attention, that would be a miracle in this culture.

  19. Chris

    ummm...I have no trouble getting dates in America, I choose not to do so because they are all useless spoiled brats that i would never donate my seed to. I have studied 4 languages and had no problem with foreign girls IN THE USA!! this pheanomenon is absolutely 100% true, and American girls as usual are not very receptive to constructive criticism and think this is all about that hole in between their legs...Well, this is the biggest advocate of legalizing prostitution you'll ever meet! Imagine how that would snap some of these spoiled princesses' perception back to reality, I joyfully wait for the day!

  20. Reannon Muth

    @ Chris - What does legalizing prostitution have to do with anything? And how would that 'snap some of these spoiled princesses' perception back to reality'? I'm not following you.

  21. jonny

    I am not happy about dying alone,but I know I will be a lot happier without an American woman. The primiscuous sex god attitude that womans rights gave woman,and their career pursuits made them unbareable to be around,no man wants them and they end up "career"mothers,working and going to school and raising children all by themselves. Entitlement minded,arrogant, obese princesses,lazy,goldiggers.All men that I knew that were rich are married,most divorced and my "poor"friends never marry or can even find a date.The 400 pounders wont even date them-lmao!! Never in my wildest dreams as a young lad did I ever think woman were as evil as they are in the United States.

  22. Jennifer

    I am blown away by the comments I read here! Facts: North American Women are: 1. UNHEALTHY - highest obesity & diabetes levels in the world 2. MONEY not FAMILY FOCUSED - the highest per capita concentration of lawyers in the world + highest rates of divorce rates. 3. SPEND not SAVE - highest per capita discretionary spending levels and largest per capita credit card debt. 4. WASTE not SAVE - the most wasteful users of energy, water and food. Results: Many parts of the world have a negative view on several aspects of North American culture. This is reflected on how they perceive men and women. Go anywhere. Europe, Asia, Latin America, Caribbean, Africa (excluding Middle East)- as I have never been there) and these conceptions are validated by the local folks. North American women (American and Canadian) are perceived as: money oriented, consumer oriented, self-centered head cases. They are highly selfish, extraordinarily wasteful, insensitive and uncaring, heartless. Although independent they strong willed but emotionally bereft fashionista predators who care nothing about their families, spouses or children. Career minded they are materially focused with high levels of fat on the mind and bling bling as a priority. Sad but true.

  23. Alex

    As a 25 year old man who has worked overseas, I totally understand where your blog is coming from. During my year and a half in China I had several girlfriends and a very active social life. At the same time I watched western girls who were decent looking and who had nice personalities struggle to get any sort of male attention. To be clear, I had dated women before my time abroad. I was far from the virginal "samurai sword" collector that you snidely make fun of in your article, although I suppose from the outside it would be easy to make that assumption. I was just a slightly chubby guy, more comfortable at home reading a good book than out playing sports with the guys. After returning back to North America in my early twenties and being for the most part dateless for 3 years(a couple one night stands a few blind dates notwithstanding), I can now confidently say that I've been completely spoiled by my experience overseas.North American women are simply not desirable to me anymore. The value that Western women believe they possess compared to what they can actually offer a man is so out of whack it's laughable. The men who avoided you overseas, did so because for the first time in their lives, they had a choice. In Asia you meet 'strange' women who routinely strike up conversation with you for no other purpose than to have a chat and practice their English. No longer does a woman need to know what kind of car you drive before she'll give you the time of day. In Asia women take care of their bodies. Rather than over eating and demanding you "love them the way they are", their is an active pressure on women to stay in shape. In Asia, relationships are actually "Equal" and not this bizarre form of cuckoldry that passes for equality in our society. Being able to just "be" was my favourite part of dating overseas. No longer was I under pressure to perform for 3 hours during a date, my partner was genuinely interested in what I had to say and brought her own unique point of view to the conversation. I liked that I had to fight to pick up the check with women who made less than half the money I made. No longer was I "expected" to pay while on a first date with a woman who made more money than me. In Asia, women possess traditional values which I appreciate. People dated with an eye towards the long term. I blame this failing on our parents generation more than anything else. I believe that when women won the right to get a divorce, it was intended to be used sparingly to extricate themselves from horrible situations and abusive relationships. Now it seems to be used when a woman gets bored, finds a richer guy or to fleece men of half their belongings.

  24. Reannon Muth

    "The value that Western women believe they possess compared to what they can actually offer a man is so out of whack it’s laughable." What about the value that western MEN believe they have to offer? You mentioned that western women have overlooked you in the past because you're a little chubby (your words) and yet one of the reasons you list for not dating a western women is because she doesn't take care of her body. But what about you, Alex? Is it fair to hold western women to standards that you don't hold for yourself? You condemn western women for overeating and then demanding that people 'love them the way they are'. But isn't that what you want from people as well? For someone to 'love you the way you are'?

  25. Reannon Muth

    Honestly, I don't understand where you guys are getting these ideas! Not all American women are superficial gold-diggers. I wouldn't even say that MOST are. I'm certainly not that way. And neither are any of the people (male or female) that I'm friends with. I won't argue with you that that stereotype doesn't exist, but there are a lot of women that don't fit into that category. I think that you guys might be looking in all of the wrong places. Have you ever tried joining a hiking club or meditation class for example? You'll meet a lot of fit, deep-thinkers there! Or what about a foreign language group? I used to belong to a German language group and every other week we'd meet up for coffee or dinner and practice German with eachother. I met a lot of interesting, worldy people who weren't superficial at all. Where do you guys live? And have you seriously tried to find a date outside of a bar or club? Or are you basing all of these ideas on observations you've made on random women you've seen on the street?

  26. Reannon Muth

    @ Jennifer - Okay, fess up. Are you really a dude posing as a female commenter? It's hard to believe a woman would write this... "Although independent they strong willed but emotionally bereft fashionista predators who care nothing about their families, spouses or children. Career minded they are materially focused with high levels of fat on the mind and bling bling as a priority." Just sayin'...

  27. Alex

    @Reannon Muth Never said anyone overlooked me for my weight, sadly those are (your words). You put a lot of words in my mouth and tend to ignore the thrust of my post. Needless to say I find it repugnant that you believe you hold some sort of moral high ground after making extremely negative, superficial and sarcastic remarks about your fellow expats: Let's list them shall we: “All of them were bearded and balding. All of them resembled the aging, stringy-haired members of the band Metallica.” “the pale, rail-thin, greasy-haired white boy” “These men wouldn’t have been able to score a date at home” “the socially awkward” “dorky expat brothers” It's this kind of patronizing drivel that probably drives men away from you. Addressing my own comments on obesity, you and I both know there is a difference between "a little chunky" and somebody whose weight and eating habits are completely out of control. Nowhere but in North America do these men and women exist in such huge numbers. Your denial, defensiveness and arrogance only confirm some of the nasty stereotypes men at home and abroad see as being key traits of the North American female. Just another princess who left home with a narrow view of how the rest of the world works and who is now desperately blaming everyone but herself. Good luck with that! I'll remember to send you some pictures from my 50 wedding anniversary, when you're on hubby #3 or cat #27. Peace!

  28. Reannon Muth

    @ I'm sorry you're reading my comments as defensive or arrogant...I'm not meaning for them to be either. Sometimes something I mean to come off as funny or light doesn't always read that way in writing. Anyway, perhaps that's something I need to work on... You seem pretty quick to assume though that I'm just 'another princess with a narrow view of how the rest of the world works.' I've lived a total of five years abroad, in five different countries. I've traveled to over 30 and have worked very hard to educate myself about other cultures. Although I have a long way to go, I wouldn't say that I'm completely clueless about how the world works.

  29. Reannon Muth

    Let's put it this way: How would you guys feel if I said something to the effect of "All American men are fat, ugly, insensitive, materialistic losers"? Would you think I was being fair with that statement? Of course not. Because it's not true! There are plenty of men in the US who aren't like that.

  30. Alex

    @Reannon Let’s put it this way: How would you feel if I said something to the effect of “All American men who date asian women overseas are fat, ugly, undateable, misogynistic losers”? Would you think I was being fair with that statement? Of course not. Because it’s not true! There are plenty of men overseas who aren’t like that. If you can't recognize how hypocritical you sound, then I don't think you'll ever get it.

  31. Steve

    @Reannon Read, be enlightened. http://nomadlaw.com/2007/02/expat-life-sexual-feast-for-men-famine-for-women/

  32. Batanya

    The sweeping generalizations astounds me. Come out of the stone age. Prejudice is most often spiked by insecurities, is it not? Regardless, I see many of the commentator's points when they say American women are difficult. I myself find my peers (and myself) critical, judging, hateful, over defensive, self-centered. But please realize, these women are also their biggest critics, judgers and haters. I have to say I laughed when many commentator's stated that they would much rather have high maintenance, ambitionless, materialistic "Asian women" (quotes because this is once again generalization, seriously guys - WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME, FFS. Not all Asian women are your 'goddesses', sad excuses for goddesses that it is, that you assume.) - if that's what you guys want, you're right, I wouldn't want to date you in America in the first place. If you can't respect that my desires don't lie in being a walking sex symbol with a Louis Vuitton bag cradled in the crook of my arm, I'm sorry. I just want to work and finish class to contribute to my future family. I always offer to pay, and if they don't allow me I pay the tip (something I can safely say most East Asian resident females don't do, considering they don't tip to begin with.)

  33. SteveOC

    I find it amusing that the females posting on this issue are completely failing to see actual problem, and instead are coming with reasons why the actual problem doesnt exist. Its really quite simple. Nobody wants anything to do with you. We (the men of the world who adore women) ... are just NOT INTERESTED in you lot. We cant be bothered with you anymore. It is not any more complicated than that. You can try and rationalize this all you like with such delusions as : "These men must be intimated by us", or "These men are unattractive and can only get a date in Asia", or other denials such as "But we are not all the same !!". Who cares ? We certainly don't care ! You can come up with all the theories you like to make it appear as if it is not your fault .... you can gossip and conspire with all your female friends all you like, and lay the blame on everyone but yourselves. Go for it, just dont expect us to listen to your bleating. American Woman, know this - We dont care about you anymore. We cant be bothered with you anymore. We are over having to listen to your ideas. We tune out when you talk. You are of no use to anyone but yourself and there is nothing good left in you for any person to even like. Worst of all, the damage is now permanent. You cant even be fixed, you are broken beyond repair. Its OVER ! Nobody wants you.

  34. Larry

    I don't date american women as much nowdays because I travel a lot and most of the women I associate with are foreign ladies. I prefer them over american women because they have respect for themselves and because I deserve a classy woman and have no interest in some white trash girl who's been screwed by every ghetto club banging hoodrat in town. You can hate me all you wish, call me names or whatever but I am proud to be with the ladies I date and they keep me happy. American women don't care about american men and they sure the hell don't appreciate you guys by their actions. yeah they call you a loser but actually they are the real loser because they have lost their appeal and a lot of guys are waking up.

  35. Xenon

    I agree completely with the posts bashing American/Western women. In fact there was a time when I was curious about them. I emphasize the curiosity part. I live in Canada for some time now and, even if I have seen gorgeous women here, there was something that made me stop dating them. I prefer 100% the date the immigrant women here. Why should I go out with a woman that, best case scenario, if I will marry her either will make my life a living hell with her unreasonable demands or will metamorphoses herself into a whale and Oprah style discourse will make me feel guilty about it. Here the man is guilty for her infidelity, obesity or spontaneousness combustion. As an anecdote, I had helped once a mademoiselle with her heavy luggage (unsolicited help in fact) after the train stopped. Back in Eastern Europe/Arabic Countries/Africa/Asia this act would have been appreciated and interpreted at least chivalrous and thanked. This girl considered herself insulted, as I had treated her as a weakling. I know it is wrong to generalize but sometimes the generalization is healthy: i always treat fire as something dangerous and avoidable, I don't keep sticking my finger into it just because this one it might be different. Fire burns, American women are bad :). Somehow I feel pity for these girls. Their kind will disappear this generation for one simple reason: they will not be able to procreate. The feminism, at least the way that is understood now is the sole responsible for the low natality in Europe and North America.Feminism killed the white race. I do not want a submissive woman, but I don't want either to be her slave or else. I know that I cannot put up with all these absurdities just to get laid. I prefer my partner to be a girl/woman not a man with a vagina that wants to emasculate me out of shear penis envy.

  36. Xenon

    errata: spontaneous combustion not spontaneousness. will metamorphose not metamorphoses. BTW, the above discourse is not a hate speech: I have female friends and colleagues nere BUT I told them my concerns (obviously without the name calling parts). Don't tell me, dear author, that you do not use clichés at all. As a curiosity, why only in the Anglo-Saxon countries the term nerd is derogatory? It shows just what all the others had reproached: your superficiality. Don't worry, I am not offended. I understood. It is just sexual frustration.

  37. Reannon Muth

    @ Xenon - Aw, I like nerds! I am one myself in a lot of ways. : ) If myself and my friends are anything to go by, I'm sure there are quite a few Western women who feel the same way. Smart guys are totally in right now, right?

  38. Daniel

    I stumbled upon this discussion by accident, but I find it interesting, so I thought I'd chime in. This is just my opinion, of course, but I think it's a bit unfair to say that American women have the market cornered on being materialistic. Here in Japan, I have met many women who are interested primarily in the sort of lifestyle that their prospective mate would be able to provide. I think it's fair to say that I've met vile people from all over the world. I do find it easier to dislike people from the same (or a similar) culture, though. It's easier to hate someone within a familiar cultural context, at least for me. Conversely, I have met lots of American and Japanese women who are completely cool about money, and are genuinely interested in finding true love. I do agree that the women here in Japan do tend to take better care of themselves in terms of appearance, but then again, I guess the Japanese men do too. It does annoy me, however, when (some) American women judge American men who date foreign girls, calling them losers and such. But it's human nature, I suppose. I know I probably sound like an apologist for the bad habits of Americans, but I think that Americans (men and women) are confused about gender roles. Men don't understand whether women want a modern sensitive guy, or a super masculine guy, and women...well, I can't pretend to understand women that well. Anyway, the confusion creates anxiety and frustration. I think (I hope) that these are simply growing pains, as American men and women try to work out what they should be doing. Meanwhile the pendulum swings back and forth. Anyway, I'm rambling.

  39. Delta

    Western women are overly demanding, greedy, usually overweight with lesbian haircuts and have a wardrobe full of jeans. If the marriage ends the women screw you for every penny and the state assists in the abduction of your children by your former wife, you are usually thrown out of the home. Men want wives, wives who are equal but with differing roles, western women don't want to cook a meal for their man, they find no joy in presenting their man with a set of cleaned clothes when he returns as the breadwinner. We want wives, and its not about sex, we want loving relationships with females whom act in a female manner. Its also worth pointing out we dont want a woman who has had god knows how many partners, and we dont want some third world girl to abuse, its about relationships that respect the differing roles each gender plays equally. Western women? no thanks way more baggage than they are worth.

  40. Joe

    I'm married to one of those ultra shallow, no good, lazy, American women. I find NOTHING good about them in general. American women are gross and unladylike. They are greedy and extremely self-centered. If people dig in Google they will find a million websites and pages, blogs and postings about how horrible they are. Catch phrase "American Women suck". If I could find a way to unload this rotten bitch I'm with now and get a foreign girl, I'd do it in a second!

  41. Geoffrey

    I am 25 years old and currently working towards a CS degree. There are lots of women at my University, and of all different types. It is hard to say that all North American women fit into the stereotypes listed above. However, I feel the mass majority assert many of the behaviors. When I was 16 I started modeling, I signed with Wilhemina and traveled the world until I was 23. I was fortunate to meet many people from many different cultures. My personality fit best with the Scandinavian cultures. I did not get along well with most French or Italian men, however, the women were fine. Many of my European friends said I wasn't like most American's, loud, ignorant of culture, and an entitled attitude. I understood what they were saying. The stereotypes to me about both American men and women are true, but cannot be applied to everybody. I think you are taking offense to this as a women, than what it really is, a social issue. No, of course not all women act these negative ways, however, many do. The way North American women act is not the lone fault of women either, but North American men as well. Girls are told since childhood that they need possessions to both be beautiful and competitive, that they will meet prince charming who will satisfy all their physical and emotional needs, that girls should be pampered and protected by men (fathers), and that verbal tactics and manipulation should be used instead of the physical. This, along with the recent feminist movements, have created unstable norms. The encounters I have had while dating North American women have been nothing but negative. I have been cheated on, lied to, and mistreated by many. Sure, men do this too, but if we look at social differences between men and women then you will see where these bad stereotypes come into play. Lets apply some of these stereotypes and put yourself in another position, say you’re a tree. You’re a tree that is watching two people go through some bad decisions regarding relationships. The loud, ignorant, friendly, down to earth, know it all man cheats on his wife. The loud, cold, entitled, materialistic, backstabber cheats on her husband. Both committed horrible acts, but who would you dislike more? However, I cannot stress enough the attitudes of women. Men are more physical, but the physical out lash in an argument is against the law. However, a woman is a king of tongue and can tear apart the soul. As a tree watching the arguments of the couples, the man simply goes with the flow, but the women will attack by malicious means such as spread rumors, false legal allegations, and many others. An abusive women will take advantage of this more. However, since society says these actions are ok, more and more women become abusive. I read in a previous post, You do not touch fire twice, fire burns. This is great. For many who have been burned by the stereotypical North American women, there comes a time when we say enough and shut down. I do not initiate conversation with North American women anymore. Sure, I could pass up meeting a great person, but the past has shown me horrible odds. On a final note, while writing this I remembered a saying that I have heard so many North American girls say, “All my friends are guys, I hate girls, they are such backstabbers!”, have you ever heard a guy say that about other men?

  42. DS

    Just take a look at Mark Zuckerburg. He is now worth billions of dollars. He could pretty much have any girl that he wants. While he was at Harvard , he was dating some asian girl. I forgot what her name was. You could truthfully claim that she was not dating him for the money, because he did not have it back then. I think that Mark Zuckerberg has it right. He is correct for keeping the same girl . He could get any girl now. But, the minute that Mark Zuckerberg lost all his money, this new girl would throw him under the bus!!! That is NOT love! Horrible attitudes N. American women have. He is smart enough to know that. That is why he keeps his current girlfriend. When I go to the Garden State plaza, all I get is just a confirmation of this. Horrible attitudes!

  43. Steve

    Jesus H Gina. Is it any wonder why so few men want a North American woman? For one we would have to listen to the idiotic ramblings of a nitwit all day. A two page essay of every thought that's passed through the wind between your ears wasn't necessary. The men on here all stated their points simply and clearly, we gave our reasons on this blog and her other one explaining why she had such bad "luck" attracting men overseas. Most men who have posted have been frustrated romantically and have moved on to women who they find compatible with their own moral and cultural feelings and beliefs after having their minds blown by dating women from cultures other than North America. There is no debate needed, nor any joining off hands so we can all sing koombayah.

  44. Guest III

    I am a Eastern Europe an woman living the US for many years. I have also traveled a lot around the world in the past. While I agree that some American women fit the descriptions above, I know many who do not even come close to this stereotype. I have met absolutely fantastic women, dedicated wives and mothers, funny, elegant and smart, working to support their families. Yes, many want money and possessions but you know why? They have been under a huge family and peer pressure since early childhood. It is their friends and parents who insist that the ultimate goal is finding a wealthy husband and caring about material things. On the other hand, I have had awful experience dating American men. For the most part they are shallow, ignorant, egocentric, misogynistic, immature, irresponsible, promiscuous and lazy. Did I mention overweight? I have dated European men too, so I can tell the difference. And yet, it would not be fair to say that this applies to all North American men because I finally met a great guy...it took me six years to find him though. Along these lines I am completely annoyed by the myths about the beautiful, "family value oriented" Russian girls who are "not interested" in money. Please, give me a break! Do I know Russian women much better than the average Mid-Western beer drinking mutta dreaming in about love without complications. Same about Asian women - I have not seen worse tyrants at home. Sweet and submissive until they get married, then wait and see who wears the pants. So generalization and stereotyping are definitely wrong directions to go. What worked for me might not work for you and the vice versa.

  45. Geoffrey

    I have a hard time believing that you are from Eastern Europe based on what you have said. You say many U.S men are misogynists. I find that hard to believe that any eastern women would classify a U.S man as a misogynist, especially when so much misandry is present in western media and social structure.

  46. Jeff

    Mainstream media and the pop culture environment have literally brainwashed and hardwired American females into thinking they are something special and that they deserve nothing but the best in life in everything from college degrees, careers, and men. I was actually married to girl that claimed to be one of the nicer ones. She had an affirmative action sales job where she was grossly overpaid in relation to the work she performed..(.if you want to call driving a company car to doctor's offices to cater lunch....."work".) She made every bit the money I made. Our salaries were equal. She spent her salary down every month on shoes, clothes, credit card debt, and pedicures. However, she refused to pay any portion of mortgage or utilities and was essentially living scott-free off of me, while at the same time booking vacations for herself and her sisters every month leaving me behind and demanding that I address her as "honey" and also cook breakfast for her and say "good morning" to her every single morning. If I failed to do so, she started a major fight with me. She had even booked an appointment to a therapist for us because I had declined on traveling to San Francisco for a weekend because I just didn't not feel like spending the money nor taking off of work at the time. And this was after she had returned home from Europe to stay a week with her friend. And of course before she took off to Europe, it was her birthday. I gave her a birthday present that she did not like and she threw a fit right in the restaurant. I finally blew up one day and completely screamed at her at the top of my lungs because I couldn't take it anymore. I called her every name in the book. She walked out and filed for divorce and manipulated me through the entire process. It was then that it finally sunk in how damaging to marriage and family the feminist movement was. As a man, you have absolutely no control over a marriage. Because of no-fault divorce, a woman can divorce you and take everything you own at any time she decides for no reason whatsoever. If she is halfway attractive, she knows she can just go flaunt her body anywhere and get another date immediately since the feminist movement made it perfectly socially acceptable for women to act like whores. I feel sorry for any man that has kids that had a wife file for divorce on him. He loses his family, basically loses his kids, and then becomes financially responsible for those kids as well. I'm scared to death to get married to a western woman because it's branded into my brain that she will divorce me one day once she decides that I don't meet her unrealistic expectations she developed while watching desperate housewives, the royal wedding, oprah, dr. phil, and MTV.

  47. Dave

    I am an attractive, fun, charming, very intelligent, in shape, ex athlete, successful American Male. I went on 37 dates this last year in American (I probably could have gone on twice as many, is so inclined). Nearly every date was mediocre to suckfest. The American woman was boring, self serving, no fun, too serious, drank way too much, condescending, overweight, entitled and a unconscious thirst for money. I traveled through Colombia last year for a month. I went on 6 dates (3 Colombian. 1 Ecuadorian. 1 Costa Rica. 1 Russian.) All were charming, funny, intelligent, interesting, kind, pretty, normal weight, and FUN to be around. I loved every single minute I spent with those women. I have lost all desire to date any more American Women. Why did this occur? Probably as simple as the word Culture. Sad fact is, the average American man exhibits the exact same characteristics as the Average American woman. Entitled. Overweight. Too serious. Self Serving. Money hungry. Angry. Conflict oriented. Demanding. Now the flaw to all these arguments, including mine, is we are comparing the "traveler" type person to 95% of all American who never leave the house. The average "traveler" female is usually intelligent, fun, in shape, charming, non demanding (how can one be demanding when traveling on a chicken bus), easy going, non materialistic etc.. As is the average "traveler" male. Problem arises, the total number of "traveler" females in the USA is what?? Well, only 20% of all American have passport. And less then 5% of American travel abroad not to a "destination" trip (Cancun, Great Wall, Eiffle Tower etc). So that puts the total number of American "adventure travelers" at about 1%. And half or more than half are men. So, that mean out of every 200 women, only 1 is a "traveler" type female with the previously mentioned characteristics. And then throw in the "is she single/available" criteria.. You're looking at 1 of every 500 women has the same values as a "traveler" male. And then she has to think you are attractive enough to go out on a date. Astronomical odds to find an American Girl with similar ideals. No wonder the men here are bitching about finding a suitable date. The don't exist in a daily day for the average "traveler" type male. And I guarantee the female "traveler" type is also having problems dating in America. Fact is, the misogynistic men of America end up with the overly demanding bitchy women of America. This is a global economy. We also need to treat the world as a global dating opportunity too. Why wouldn't it be in the best interest of a Male to go somewhere where he "feels" better and is "happier" with his dating life? Why would anyone hold that against a person? The people behaving badly on the streets of this country are both sexes. That asshole who was rude to waitress: Male. The bitch the yelled at the clerk in the mall: women. Problem is, usually, the nationality of the person behaving badly is: American.

  48. Jas

    I want to pitch in on this topic. It is funny and eye-opening to read the comments here. I am foreign male born in India and raised in the Philippines. Now I am living in Canada and loving the freedom. However, I just cannot find too many cultured and kind women. I am scared to date Canadian women, no matter what their background is. I find them too aggressive and delusional. I am an attractive guy who looks after myself. I used to model as well and now I am working as a nurse. I am the stereotypical example of a hot nurse. However, I am having trouble meeting women. I am not a shallow person, but I always go for the personality first. Looks fade, but personality stays.

  49. roger

    Most American women in today modern society behave like the world revolves around them. They have no respect for other cultures and are brained washed by the us commercialized culture and media.I say to all the guys here find an Asian or Hispanic woman.you will be glad you made a very wise choice.

  50. JC

    Fascinating...

  51. Meg

    Here's a thought, everything you complain about in American women is spreading worldwide. Does that really mean it's our fault? I imagine America is going to be slimmer, healthier, and more family oriented in the coming years. We are aware of the problems and we are capable of change. I'm very glad that more-educated American men do not think a woman should be humble if she's not pretty. We all should feel good about ourselves for who we are.

  52. JJ

    They are bad generally. I avoid them. They've traumatized me with their BS. I don't go near them even with a ten foot pole. You piss off an entitled American spoiled brat princess in any way and you are likely to be accused of rape or violence and harassed or possibly lynched by her other male friends. It's just not worth even checking em out unless they come from a culture that isn't completely fu*&ed by hollywood.

  53. John Doe

    6 Major advantages of European/Russian women over American women As someone who has approached and met many women in Russia/Europe and America, I can guarantee 1000 percent that the following six major advantages outlined here are absolutely true and testable. My website at www.happieraroad.com contains a hundred times more than enough proof of this. Please note that though I acknowledge that while certain qualities vary universally among individuals (e.g. personality, character, behavior, morality, taste), there are nevertheless big differences that do exist between countries/regions which are apparent to even the most casual observer. (If at any time while reading this, you wish to accuse me of stereotyping or generalizing, or you wish to protest that you know exceptions to what I describe, please click here) 1. Approachability/Sociability – In general, women in Russia and Europe are a million times more approachable, inclusive, modest, and easy to meet, date, and bring into your social/dating circle than women in America. This I can guarantee a thousand percent a thousand times over. In fact, the difference in approachability is greater than the average American who’s never left their country can imagine. Even if you approach a female movie star, model, or married woman in Russia, she never gets offended or defensive at your initiation like American women do, so you never feel like you are a creep or for the attempt, for in such countries men are allowed to “act on their desires” much more freely than in the states. Usually, they blush or giggle when approached or flirted with. In contrast, trying to meet and approach young women in the US often feels awkward and rude, as if you are violating some type of boundary. They prefer not to acknowledge your existence if you’re not in their clique. They have strong hang ups against strangers (even if they find them attractive) and behave overly proper and distant in their communication with them. They generally don’t talk to strangers unless it’s business related, for they are religious about keeping social interactions strictly within their clique. They are among the most cliquish, closed, and anti-stranger women in the world, and emanate an “unapproachable force field” around them. Not to say that there are no friendly women in America, but there is definitely something peculiar that makes them and Americans in general unnaturally closed and paranoid. So the main problem is that they won’t meet you if they don’t know you, but yet you can’t get to know them cause they won’t meet you, thus creating a CLOSED LOOP against someone who wants to meet them. And that just plain sucks, to put it simply. In fact, it’s widely agreed among well-traveled playboys that the US has among the most unapproachable and anti-social women in the world. Even in other Westernized countries like Canada, England, France or Italy, where young women are also known to be snobby, at least they are still far more approachable and social than in the US (and much more cultured as well). The material on my site proves without a doubt a hundred times over that young women in the US are among the most unapproachable in the world. Even their closest counterparts in Britain aren’t nearly as unapproachable, but have better conversation skills, and are generally friendlier. In America, women have all the power and upperhand, and they know it. Around American women, men MUST act girly and emasculate, otherwise they are seen as creeps, pigs, or transgressors. And they will be viewed likewise if they don't always let women continue to have the power and upperhand as well. That's one reason why they're unapproachable, for to them, being approached or “hit on” is a threat to their power and upperhand. And for me, that puts me between “a rock and a hard place”, because if I approach American girls I want and “go for it” then I am a creep or , but if I don’t, then they never approach me either, so either way I lose. 2. Weight – I hate to say something so politically incorrect and offensive, but the following is absolutely true. In Russia and Europe, between 95 and 100 percent of the young women are skinny or height/weight proportionate. In contrast, in the USA between 40 and 60 percent of the women are overweight, varying among region. This is absolutely indisputable, apparent, objectively measurable, and not subject to relative opinion or standards at all, as it has to do with obvious physical differences apparent to the naked eye that even the biggest idiot in the world who goes to both regions could identify immediately without effort. What sucks about America, despite its many ideal qualities, is that the only truly friendly open women are the large ones, while the non-overweight ones are generally stuck-up and unapproachable (though in many areas, such as LA, even ugly girls are rude and uppity). On the other hand, most of the slim young women in Russia/Europe are very approachable and easy to meet or get acquainted with. 3. Dress style – The dress style of European and Russian women is much more stylish, attractive, classy, and feminine than in America, where women dress much more plainly in comparison (since after all, even average plain women in the US have their pick of the bunch, thus they have no need to look top-notch). Russian/European women are much better at maximizing their appearance with clothes/cosmetics and unlike American women, they love wearing skirts and high heels, which are much more attractive to men. As in the weight element above, this difference too is so apparent everywhere you go in these regions that even the biggest idiot in the world couldn’t help but notice it. In fact, I and other Americans I’ve met would say that in Russia, about 80 percent of girls are considered “hot” by American standards, while in the USA, that proportion is, well, much lower so that any decent looking girl there is treated like a goddess and put on a pedestal. What is considered “hot” by American standards is average in Russia. If you don’t believe it, come spend time in the crowded cities of Moscow and St. Petersburg, and you’ll see exactly what we mean. 4. Intellectual/Inner life – Compared to the US, women in Russia/Europe have a much richer and refined intellectual life, are more cultured, higher educated, have a broader knowledge of the world, and speak many more languages (most of them speak between 2 and 5 languages while most American women speak only their own). Unlike # 2 and 3 though, this one requires interaction with the women in these regions to notice. In contrast, not only do most young women in the US not value having an intellectual life, but they lack curiosity as well, and can’t even hold an intelligent conversation. Often trying to hold even a normal conversation with them is like talking to a dead wall. While a higher percentage of older women in the US can hold somewhat of an intelligent conversation, the typical young American female lacks depth and can’t say much beyond “yeah”, “really”, and “cool”, which is sad but true. This makes it difficult to connect with them or find common ground with them, as there is not much substance to them to work with. In fact, I’d say the tremendous difference between the ability of young women to hold a conversation in the US vs abroad is almost as apparent as the weight difference. One thing can be said for sure though, in pretty much all countries outside the USA, women are either more cultured or more modest, one or the other, or both. 5. Variety of interests – Based on # 4, it’s no surprise that Russian/European women also generally have much more variety in their interests and passions, which makes them much more interesting people as well. They have a love for exploring new things, expressing and expanding themselves, and maximizing their experiences and passions in life. Again, the slightest interaction with them reveals this obvious difference compared to their US counterparts. European and Russian women who visit America often report that one of their first impressions is that the women there have no real interests (compared to them at least; by their standards). 6. Femininity – Last but not least, the mentality and culture of “feminism” that has taken over America has made it the most unfeminine place in the world. What American feminists (men as well as women) don’t realize is that most of the rest of the world, both male and female, does NOT envy their feminism, but in fact despise it, finding it unnatural, distasteful, and UNfeminine (ironically). American feminism is rife with hypocrisy, double-standards, and dysfunctionality; yet it pervades all our modern culture, media, talk shows, sitcoms, etc., portraying women as either perpetual victims who can do no wrong, or as creatures with superior rights to men. (There are great websites that get into this in great detail, as it’s beyond the scope of this summary) What this has done to the personality and behavior of women here is monstrous. Besides dress style (e.g. very few wear skirts and high heels now), their voices become coarse and rough, their mannerisms masculine, and their characters spoiled and selfish. Unlike women in the rest of the world, they aren’t soft, tender, sweet, don’t giggle when you say nice compliments, and don’t like wearing skirts and heels. Women in the rest of the world, on the other hand, are proud of their femininity, and show it in many ways, in dress style, behavior, and attitude. Conclusion: The above six factors outlined should make the sharp contrast and overall differences clear between Russian/European women and American women. While I do not wish to focus on appearance or dress style (the world is shallow enough as it is), my primary complaints and beef against American women are that they are 1) unapproachable, anti-social, and cliquish toward strangers, and 2) lack depth, substance, and culture, making it difficult to connect with them, find common ground or chemistry. If it weren’t for these, America would be a much better place. Though what I’ve said here may offend some, it’s the truth nevertheless. And if one isn’t allowed to say the truth here, we live in a screwed-up place. Courtesy: http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page52.htm

  54. Jessica Alba

    I am a European man living in the USA and have never gone out with American women because my European sister says that 90 percent of American women are crap. I have had European women advising me to stay away from American women and stick to European women. Public form (I would not be surprised if most women from Latin American and Asia have the same profile as European women). Through my company, I haven lucky to have had the opportunity to live in different corners of the world and experience many different cultures. Getting to see multiple cultures ads more knowledge but also sometimes makes you ask questions. While living in Europe I was lucky enough to have meet a very smart and gorgeous women, we dated for a few years when I asked her to marry me. After getting married I was relocated back to the US and my company took care of the paperwork and she moved with me. One of the things that I can say happened personally to me and to some other co-workers is that we started preferring dating European women and no longer even consider dating American women. Trying to figure out the cultural difference's between European and American womens to try to figure out "Why?", why we don't date American women. So we decided to post a topic to find out more. Here is a comparison of what we have come up with, again this are just general and some of them might be a stereotype. But that is why we want to discuss them here. - Most European women are very Independent, they want to have some life outside of the relationship. American women want to do everything as a couple. - Most European women prefer to be financially responsible, like they would rather pay for their own dinner when in the US, its automatically expected that guys have to buy gifts and pay for dinner. - European women prefer to be healthy, have very active lifestyle. Going to the gym, biking and walking is the thing to do. I am not saying that all American women are not into a healthy lifestyle but its certainly a small percentage in comparison. Unfortunately for some of my friends who married American women once they got married they gained weight... blaming it on childbirth and things like that when I can say for a fact from my and my friends European wifes that after child birth after some months they where back to their previous weight without even trying but just because of their healthy lifestyle. - In Europe, its common for couples to live together and of course have sex before they are married, I think thats great because you get to know what it is to marry someone, no surprises. But I noticed in America that is a taboo specially around Christian's who look down at those who live together or are sexually active with their loved ones before they are married. How can someone make a lifetime commitment before knowing what they are getting into. The guys I work with have discussed this greatly, which I think its great to know people I can be that comfortable with the only negative thing that has come out of it is that we have discussed this with other's at work who have divorced their American Wife and re-married European. I don't think thats cool but they are happier now. All I can say is that I am madly in love with my wife, my wife means everything to me. Courtesy: http://www.topix.com/forum/business/online-dating/T05BKAV2C9UKNM5F5 Most children in western Europe & Latin America are still raised in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s. In most countries in western European countries (example Belgium, Italy, Sweden) most mother want their children to have a very good relationship with their father (respects fathers parental rights) and do not care about child support or money. This is the only reason why Tiger Woods married a Swedish woman not an American woman. Tiger Wood children are raised as Swedish expatriate children, because that way they have the skills to survive in Sweden and not be labeled as Americans. This is how most Europeans raises their American children. The majority of American women hate man, and 80 percent do not understand the concept of family, and try and drive the father out of there children’s lives because that is the only way they can get child support. They try and get every singe dime out child support of the father and use 9/10 percent of that them self’s. They treat their husband (and or ex-husband) like crap and man have to work as slaves to finically support there ex with alimony and child support. Fathers could go to jail for quitting a job, or have a drop in income in the United States. You have the same problem in Australia, Britain, Canada and New Zeeland. Those countries copied the same child support system as the United States but the United States is the worst in the world with this. This is why it is very rare to see European man or any wealthy foreign man marry American women. It is very rare for a Western Europeans (example, Belgium, Sweden, and Italy) to get in trouble with the law in Europe and in the USA. Most Europeans get along better with (give more respect) law enforcement in the United States than most Americans. Most criminals in Western Europe are from Eastern Europe (East Europe is a different story). European children are generally better behaved in the United States than American children. The United States is one of the most violent countries on earth while Europe is one of the most peaceful countries on earth. Have you even noticed that if you are on an airplane, you can pick the Americans apart from the rest of the world. This is because they stick out and behave the different of the rest of the world. This is because of the nature of their upbringing, and comes 100 percent out of the home, and money and wealth have noting to do with this. Barrack Obama and Michael Obama would easily be mistaken for a European or even from Kenya Africa. There are many black people living in Europe so this is not unusual in Europe. They are still raised in the same close not family structure of the 1950’s. The same goes for US Diplomats that work for the State Department. Tiger Woods American born children would be mistaken for Swedish/European, not American because they speak Swedish are raised by a Swedish mother and have a Swedish passport. American born Tiger Woods would be mistaken as a citizen of Thailand. This is because a mother who is from Thailand raised him. He also has a passport from Thailand. This is because they behave the same as the rest of the world. In the 1950’s the family structure in the United States was exactly the same as in Italy, this collapsed in the late 1960’s in the United State, but is still 98 percent the same in Italy and most western European countries and Latin America.

  55. Jessica Alba

    The problem is not that they are born in North American but are raised different than the rest of the world. This comes 100 percent out of the home. Under official European rules only Americans that are in the same stature as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama & diplomats who work for the US State Department can integrate in Europe and can be trusted. Most American born and raised children with a European/Latin American mother/grand mother and or European/Latin American father/grand father also meet this official European requirement. There are also many Americans with Asian parents/grand parents that meet this Europe requirement but would be mistaken for Asians not Americans. Any American (90 percent) that does not is crap and cannot be trusted can’t integrate in Europe and properly present them salves abroad with their mentality and behavior. Most Western Europeans (example, Belgium, Sweden, and Italy) can properly present them selves any where in the world for the same reason Diplomats and 90 percent can be trusted. This is 100 percent because of their upbringing when they are small children by their parents. They are still raised in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s.

  56. The Last Man

    This is a very insightful article by expat Fred Reed, who pretty much is 'spot on' with this topic: Why White Men Prefer Asian Women The View From A Sushi Bar There is near me an Asian sushi-beer-and-dinner establishment that I'll call the Asia Spot. The region is urban, so the clientele is a mix of some of just about everything, but the waitresses are all Asian, principally Japanese, Indonesian, Vietnamese, and Thai. The Spot is a neighborhood bar. A large after-work crowd, many of them regulars, gather at happy hour. The social dynamics are curious. It would be an exaggeration to say, as someone did, that the black guys come to pick up white women, and the white men come to get away from them – but it would be an exaggeration of an underlying truth. The waitresses are a large part of the Spot's appeal. A common subject of conversation among male customers is how very attractive these women are when compared to American women. It is not a thought safe to utter in mixed company. It is a very common thought. American women know it. Why are the Asians attractive? What, to huge numbers of men, makes almost any Asian more appealing than almost any American? The question is much discussed by men at the Spot. (I should say here that when I say "women," I mean the majority of women, the mainstream, the center of gravity. Yes, there are exceptions and degrees.) American women of my acquaintance offer several explanations, all of them wrong. For example, they say that Asian women are sexually easy. No. American women are sexually easy. The waitresses at the Spot are not available. They date, but they cannot be picked up. Another explanation popular among American women is that men want submissive women, which Asians are believed to be. Again, no. For one thing, submissive people are bland and boring. In any event the waitresses aren't submissive. Many compete successfully in tough professions. Among Asian waitresses I know I count an electrical engineer who does wide-area networks, and a woman with a masters in biochemistry who, upon finding that research required a Ph.D and didn't pay, went back to school and became a dentist. Both of these wait tables to help out in the family restaurant. At the Spot I know a woman waitressing her way through a degree in computer security, a bright Japansese college graduate making a career in the restaurant business, and the manager of the Spot – not a light-weight job. Submissiveness has nothing to do with their attractiveness. Why, then, are they so very appealing? To begin with, look at the American women in the Spot. Perhaps a third of them are stylishly dressed. The rest of the gringas run from undistinguished to dumpster-casual: baggy jeans, oversize shirts -- often male shirts -- with the tails out. They seem to affect a sort of homeless chic, actually to want to look bad, and do it with more than a touch of androgyny. A high proportion are at least somewhat overweight. (So are the men, but that's another subject.) The Asians, without exception, are sleek, well-groomed, and dressed with an understated sexiness that never pushes trashy. Further, the Asians are what were once called "ladies," a thought repellant to feminists but very so refreshing to men. Listen to the American women at neighboring tables, and you will frequently hear phrases like, "He's a fucking piece of shit." In what appears to be a determined attempt to be men, they have adopted the mode of discourse of a male locker room and made it their normal language. The Asians, classier, better students of men, do not have foul mouths. They presumably know about body parts and bathroom functions, but do not believe that a woman raises her stature by referring to them constantly in mixed company. Men at the Spot, I have noticed, instantly understand that cloacal commentqry is not wanted, and don't engage in it: In the presence of the civilized, men adopt the standards of civilization. Men also tend to think of women as women think of themselves. The Asians, without displaying vanity, clearly think well of themselves. And ought to. All in all, they give the impression that they do not want to be one of the guys. They want to be one of the girls. Here we come to the core of their appeal. Let me elaborate. The default position of American women is what men refer to as "the chip," a veiled truculence, mixed with a not-very-veiled hostility toward men and a shaky sense of sexual identity. The result is a touchiness reminiscent of hungover ferrets. There is a bandsaw edge to them, a watching for any slight so that they can show that they aren't going to take it. They are poised to lash out in aggressive defense of their manhood. As best as I can tell, they don't like being women. Here is the entire problem in five words. The Asians at the Spot show every indication that they do like being women. They do not seem to have anything to prove. Being happy with what they are allows them to be comfortable with what they are not – men. They are not competing to be what they can't be with people who can't be anything else. They don't have to establish their masculinity because they don't want it. They do not assume, as American women tend to, that femaleness is a diseased condition to be treated by male clothes, gutter language, and bad temper. I've spent many dozens of hours chatting with the gals at the Spot, and never seen a sign of the chip. For a man, the experience is wonderful beyond description – smart, pretty, classy women, who are women, and are not the enemy. As long as American women carry the chip, the Asian gals will eat them alive in the dating market. Note that the espousal of hostile obnoxiousness as a guiding philosophy appears to be an almost uniquely American horror. It certainly isn't requisite to independence oe self-respect. I recently met a quite attractive blonde who, among other things, was smart, a long-haul motorcyclist, a student of the martial arts out of sheer athletic enjoyment of it, and an excellent marksman. She was also heterosexual, feminine, delightful company, and had no trace of "the chip." I was astonished. How was this possible, I wondered? She was Canadian.

  57. Jessica Alba

    Any Canadian & American women who is not raised that way as Michael Obama & diplomats who work for the US State Department is a freak" is commonly used to refer to a person with something unusual about their appearance or behavior. That is what people say when Americans visit other countries (example, Belgium, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Sweden). That is the only reason why most Americans are hated when they travel to other countries country. That is also the reason why American women who live abroad have a hard time finding man and are lonely, because man (both American & Local) there stick to local women and stay away from American women. This is also why it’s widely agreed among well-traveled playboys that the US has among the most unapproachable and anti-social women in the world.

  58. Parisian007

    To answer why these men are blaming women for the "superficial" and "bad friends" stereotypes of Americans, those websites are geared towards men. I'm an American guy who's lived in Europe, Taiwan and China before, and I can tell you that American men generally have a positive image of being caring, attentive, feminist [ironically], responsible and faithful in most countries, particularly Latin America, Asia and Eastern Europe. Now I won't say that that image is completely accurate, but if you meet many Latino, Eastern European or Asian men you'll realize that American men generally treat women better. Not to mention we're at the top of the international, socioeconomic totem pole (after all, the US is still a superpower, albeit a declining one. I've also gone out and dated American women, and I've experienced a the GENERAL difference myself. With American women, I deal with games, deception, flakiness, and general disrespect. The women just treat me and many of my friends like crap and expendable. While most foreign women at least look, act and dress more feminine and RESPECT men. Now if you consider the fact that American men generally have a positive image abroad coupled with the general perception that American women treat their men poorly and care little about their appearance, you'll see why so many American men go abroad for love and bitch about American women.

  59. Alex Ferland

    What's really problematic is that fact that North American women aren't willing to hear the criticism's for they're flawed thinking. I hate to say this but the behavior and mentality of NA women borders on mentally sick. False claims that they are looking for emotional connection are met by mixed messages and engaging in relationships with emotionally retarded idiots. I think they mirror themselves by the kind of men they choose: narcissistic, vain, emotionally inept, non-critical thinkers, led by purely self interested motivations. But try to raise these points in an open discussion with one, and the usual response is denial, hypocrisy and disagreement guided by emotion with no regard for logic or acknowledgment what is blatantly obvious and observable. It's like trying to reason with fetus who hasn't seen the light yet. I also blame men for having blindly accepted women's behavior as perfectly ok or at least acting like they don't mind and not speaking up. We also have bought into books about picking up women making it look like attracting women is a complex science, so in essence we give them all of our power. Bad idea. Majority of women are waiting for the "right one", which seems to translate into "looking for themselves" Just the other day I heard a Beyonce song where the chorus line was "Girls who run the world". I can only see the problem getting worse. I also once read that the CIA funded the feminist movement in an attempt to destabilize society. I'm starting to become a believer in this theory. Dating sites are also provide a very relevant eye into the attitudes of women and what they expect. Countless profiles of generic , self interested as well as un interesting and overly demanding women with distorted ideals. It actually makes me wonder why they are trying to find a relationship. Just check out Plenty Of Fish and see what I'm talking about. But to balance things a little. The odd time, I do run into a profile that deviates from the norm, but oddly to an extreme. I have yet to see any grey area. They are either really demanding, or they are the complete opposite of demanding and some even to the point that they have a shared distaste for the average American women. Thank God for those ones.

  60. Jessica Alba

    Any Australian and American women who are not raised the same way as Michelle Obama/US diplomats and does not comply with the official Euro requirement looks gross and disgusting and no longer resembles real women and is a unfit mother. That is what women from other countries say. Ninth percent of this comes out of the home and cannot be thought in school. Any American woman who is not raised by her parents when she was a small child cannot properly present them selves abroad no matter how hard she tries. Any American woman who is not raised the same way as Michelle Obama/US diplomats and does not comply with official Euro requirement is worth less than a Piece of shit. There are a lot of American women in poverty that are raised that way that are worth more than most wealthy Americans. This is because they cannot properly present them selves abroad and will be declared Persona non grata (Latin, plural: personae non gratae), literally meaning an "an unwelcome person", is a legal term used in diplomacy that indicates a proscription against a person entering the country, because I would be embarrassed to take them to visit other countries (Example, Belgium, Japan, Saudi Arabia & Singapore). (1) a worse than worthless object or person; an object or person that holds no value or redeeming qualities whatsoever (2) a stupid, low-life, self-righteous human being who makes life a living hell for themselves and others (3) a small portion of human or animal fecal matter; waste excrement Courtesy: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=piece%20of%20shit

  61. Jessica Alba

    Under official European rules only Americans that are in the same stature as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama & diplomats who work for the US State Department can integrate in Europe and can be trusted. Most American born and raised children with a European/Latin American mother/grand mother and or European/Latin American father/grand father also meet this official European requirement. There are also many Americans with Asian parents/grand parents that meet this Europe requirement but would be mistaken for Asians not Americans. Any American (90 percent) that does not is a piece of crap and cannot be trusted can’t integrate in Europe and properly present them salves abroad with their mentality and behavior. Most Western Europeans (example, Belgium, Sweden, and Italy) can properly present them selves any where in the world for the same reason Diplomats and 90 percent can be trusted. This is 100 percent because of their upbringing when they are small children by their parents. They are still raised in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s. This is because immigrants raise their American children/grand children the same way they do. Many Americans with foreign-born parents want to raise their American children they say way there parents are raised. If an American man were to marry a foreign born women his American children should be raised that way by their foreign born mother. There are some exceptions to the rules. Tiger Woods has two children with Swedish women and Rupert Murdoch has a daughter with a Chinese women, because it is very difficult to find a American women that is raised that way, but it is very easy to find a foreign women that is raised that way and will raise her children that way. This can be done in the United State just as easily in China & Sweden because it comes 100 percent out of the home. It is generally know that if you want to do things properly you must stay away from American women and stick to foreign born women. Swedish women Elin Nordegren will raise her American son & daughter that way and will teach them Swedish so her children have the skills to survive in Europe/Sweden easily as there mother & make sure they comply with the Euro requirement. The same goes for most European mothers in the United States. This is why eastern European women advise European man to stick to European women and stay away from American women.

  62. Jessica Alba

    I have had American man explain this to me who was married to a Dutch woman for more than 30 years. He always refers to his US born and raised daughter as a European not an American and hates American women. He has a better relationship with his daughter than most Americans have and can thank his Dutch wife for that. His Dutch wife’s three European brothers married American women and all three American women divorced them, interfered with there parental rights moved out of state and made them pay child support. The only way to get child support in the USA is to drive the fathers out there children’s lives and that is why most American women do this. He explained to his American son & me a European man that if you do not want to deal with those ugly divorces and participate in Glenn Sacks and his Have Anti-Father Family Court Policies Led to a Men's Marriage Strike, than you must stay away from American women and stick to European women. His daughter married an Italian national and his grand son that he sees every day is raised Italian. It is very rare to find an Italian/European man marry an American women. This is how it usually goes if an American man were to marry a European woman. Most European mothers do not deal with family court in the USA. I have seen many American women and man raised that way with a European women in the 1970's and even children that are born in the 1990's or later with a European women. Most of those American boys and girls have the same negative opinion of American women as there European mother has. This is because European women raises her American children the same way she was raised and make sure they comply with the official Euro requirement. A Belgium national father who still has his green card, told me and his 12-year-old son (born and raised in California) in 1996, that the majority (only diplomats can) Americans cannot integrate in Europe or properly present them selves abroad with their mentality and behavior and are a piece of crap. He said that the majority of western Europeans (example, Belgium, Sweden, and Italy) can properly present them selves any where in the world for the same reason Diplomats can. His son and daughter have visited Belgium so many times when they were children. The same Belgium national father told me that his children who are born and raised in California, like the majority Europeans could properly present them selves abroad for the same reason diplomats can if they want, they speak their parent’s native language Dutch and have a passport from Belgium & The United States. They have the skills to survive in Belgium if they were to move back there even when there are adults. When his son and Daughter visit Belgium, it would be impossible to tell that they are Americans because they have European mentality and were raised as European/Belgium expatriate children based on the way they are raised and behave. This can be done in California just as easily as in Belgium because this comes 100 percent out of the home. He also tolled me that his children could be trusted in 1996. When his son was in the US army as a adult, he told this Belgium grand mother, that all those American man who came home from Iraq, there wife’s divorced them, they had to pay child support and were handled as criminals for not paying child support and most had there American ex wife interfered with there parental rights and in many cases move to a different state. I have had Eastern European explain me that that is what you are supposed to do if you are a European man in the USA, because you never know that if you move back to your native country in the future. She tolled me that I should only marry women that are born in Europe (example, Belgium, Sweden, and Italy) and any woman that is born in the USA is a piece of crap. She tolled me to only trust people that are born in Europe and that any body that is born in the USA are crap and cannot be trusted. That way your children may/should has the skills to survive in Europe should you ever decide to go back there in the future?

  63. Ben G`

    After having visited SE Asia 4 times, including living there for more than half of 2010, I can say with full confidence how ugly American women really are, in general. Honestly, Asian women blow American women out of the water in nearly every way. Key differences: 1. Asian women aren't fat and take care of their bodies - nearly all American women are fat, which I HATE, and they all expect you to just live with it. Any criticism, no matter how constructive, gets you in the dog house. 2. Asian women don't have the same sense of entitlement on an emotional and material level 3. Asian women aren't as bossy and are genuinely very pleased and appreciative when you do something nice for them, and most will always reciprocate in some way 4. Asian women will talk to you just for the sake of talking, and don't have the "bitch shield" up 24/7 And the list goes on... I may come across as bitter but it's 12 years of conditioning from dating American girls and I've simply had enough. This year I've adopted a no American women dating policy and will stick with it forever. Sorry ladies but you're just too spoiled for this guy. Good luck.

  64. Genius

    ......drunken acidulous jackanapes incapable of conceptualization. It's too bad most American women don't vape the green....they'd be a lot cooler if they did. lol Look at many of the elder boomers.... still molly coddles at a gillion years old pissing their mutts all over their neighbors lawns every afternoon. The faster we rid ourselves of the boomers and their devoted followers, the sooner some of the problems get fixed. Yes it's warfare, just in general, but they can't with many of the x'er dudes or we'll stomp them like Voltron. Thus, they resort to a childish brand of psywar that's only making them even sadder. I feel sorry for them, almost.

  65. Erin Magoon

    LOL, I've to say the on the web dating or electronic dating has come a very long way since the days of simple chat rooms. More and much more people are turning to on the web dating web sites to display potential dates.

  66. Jessica Alba

    A German women corporate officer told me that only American diplomats (who are raised the same way as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama) can survive and integrated in Europe & German. This comes 100 percent based on how you are raised by your parents when you are a small child in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s. The same German cooperate officer told me that because she raised her American sons (born in the 1970’s) the same way she was raised, they can walk the streets in Germany and appear based on the way they behave and raised they are not more Americanized than there German mother and a average German man that has never been to the USA & speak German fluent. According to their mother the can integrate (be trusted) in Germany as easily as their German mother can. They still have European mentality. It is impossible for any body to tell in Germany that they are Americans based on the way they behave and are raised because they comply with the official Euro requirement. This is one of the reasons one of them has worked for an American company in Germany before he moved back to the United States and still travels a lot to Europe for business/work. This is how it usually goes for American man and women who are born and raised in the United States with a European mother in the 1970’s and even in the 1990’s & latter (many only speak English). The same German corporate officer can tell that European parents raised me because of my behavior at work, and have European mentality. She could not tell if I was born in the USA or in Europe. A few years earlier I saw a 12-year-old girl with her Germany mother at work. I thought she was from Germany, because she is not more Americanized than an average German child that has never been to the USA and her German mother. That was the first thing I noticed when I saw her with her German mother. I also noticed that she is better behaved than most American children/adults and has a better relationship with mother than most American children and she was speaking German to her mother. She told me that when she visits Germany it is impossible to tell that she is an American based on the way she behaves and is raised. Her German mother conformed that that is correct. The child told me that she was born in the USA (around 1998) to German parents who immigrated to the USA shortly before she was born and still have their green card but she has duel German/US nationality. According to her German mother she can integrate (be trusted) in Germany as easily as her German parents can. According to physiatrist she can probably integrate easier in Germany than the United States and can only handle European man like her father. This can be done in the United States just as easily in Germany because it comes 100 percent out of the home you have a German mother it does not matter if the father is American or German. This can only be taught/learned inside the home based on the way you are raised by your parents when you are a small child. This is how European expatriate parents raise their American children. This is because many will move back to the there parents native country before and after there 18 birthday with there European parents. This child has a German father but many have an American father. A European/German father can raises his American daughter/son the same way just as easily provided the mother does not interfere with this. This is because children/adult man and women will generally behave the same way their mother behaves and can be equally be trusted as their mother even when they are adults. Their place of birth and residence make no difference. Many will move back to there parent’s native country in Europe (example Belgium, Germany) early in there 20’s even if their European parents stays behind in the USA and hates the United States as much as your average most European. I have heard this before. They are very thankful they have European parents. This is because they know the majority of Americans raised by Americans can not properly present them selves abroad and are hated when they visit other countries (example Africa, Asia, Canada, Europe/Germany and Latin America/Mexico) 100 because of there mentality and behavior 100 percent because of they way there are raised by there American parents when they were small children. Most know that when they travel to other countries (example Africa, Asia, Canada, Europe/Germany and Latin America/Mexico) people will think they are German/European and is not more Americanized than a average German women who has never been to the United States 100 percent because of the way they are raised by there German mother when they are small children. Many women who are raised that way will allow European man to handle them as European not American the same way as there German mother.

  67. Jessica Alba

    Any American of the white Caucasian race of European decent that is not raised the same way as the Europeans can not properly present them selves abroad and are hated by the rest of the world (Africa, Asia, Canada, Latin America & Europe) 100 percent because of there mentality and behavior and are horrible mothers & fathers. US Diplomats who work for the US State Department & president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama are raised the same way as the Europeans in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s have same lifestyle and have the mentality as the Europeans. The only way you can tell that they are Americans is because they speak English with an American accent. Most American children born in the USA with a European mother are raised the same way as the same way as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama & US Diplomats who work for the US State Department and can be equally be trusted as there European mother as far as Europeans are concerned. Most are very thankful they have a European mother because they can integrate in Europe as easily as there mother can and know that that any American that is not is hated in Europe. This is why Tiger Woods has two children with a Swedish mother and stayed away from American women. Many Americans with European born parents/grand parents are still raised European even if they think they are Americans. They generally have a better relationship with their mother and are better behaved than most Americans.

  68. SCIPIO

    I do not wish to enter the argument here, but only wish to offer my observations. I have spent much of my life traveling all over the world because of my job. This I can say unequivocally : ALL men, regardless of what country they are from, tease American men about how lousy American women are, and emphatically state that they would never have one. I am sure most American women will find reasons why these other 3.5 billion men are stupid. However, were I an American woman, I would at least pause and ask myself: "What do those other 3.5 Billion women understand that I do not."

  69. Andrei

    Wow, I can't believe how many people posted comments. I'm a 22 years old Russian guy living in Canada. Lately I was discussing this very subject (foreign vs local women) with my best friend, an Italian immigrant. We can totally relate to the majority of guys above. Since we left our countries behind to study we had terrible luck meeting quality women for the same reasons specified above: unreasonable demands, unrealistic views of how relationships work (more specifically, the role of a woman as an emotional support not an emotional time bomb) and a general snobbishness that turns me off. Even approaching them is a complicated matter. Most are on the defensive as opposed to women back home who are much more social. In fact I'm seeing a lot of local men dating immigrants and I'm not talking about one night stands. Generally they are better educated, family oriented, comfortable with their sexuality and feminine.

  70. Sarah

    Wow...a lot of these comments are extremely mean and hurtful! I wish American women weren't so stereotyped--if I move to Tokyo I'd prefer not to be single the rest of my life haha.

  71. Chris K.

    Mean and hurtful ? Don't like the stereotyping ? Well , watch a little television from a male perspective and see if you can handle another thirty or forty years of that ... as men have had to do . I had to listen to "mean and hurtful" things said about men every day of my life . At the same time I had to listen to the same women who had no problem dishing it out while finding a way to blame all men for all their own mistakes . The stereotype is far from unfair too , by the way . North American women have done everything they could to convince all men that they were sub-human while praising everything any woman might do . Have you never noticed how in N. American (actually , all Westernized countries) media , it doesn't matter what a woman does , it's somehow a man's fault ? I've been living in China for over two years now . I will NEVER consider dating a N. American woman ever again . Even if she seems cool , I know perfectly well that the minute she gets bored , she won't hesitate to steal my kids , my home , my money , and whatever else I had before I met her if she can do it . Since the law facilitates this theft it's highly likely that she'll take advantage of it . Further , why would I want to put up with her entitlement crap ? Western women drone on endlessly about how hard-done-by they are while remaining completely oblivious to how hard everybody else' life is . It's ridiculous . If you point this out to them , they come out with stupid little statements like "It's not what you said , it's how you said it." or maybe a gem like "We're not ALL like that / It's unfair to generalize !" Whatever . Chinese women are infinitely superior to Western women . They're not fat for starters . They don't act like little princesses who "deserve" everything while bemoaning their lack of it . The younger women are better educated and don't feel any need to rebel or beat their chest . They certainly dress like women and not like men-in-training . They recognize and accept that men and women are different and don't have decades of feminist propaganda telling them that they can compete in the NFL if they want to . Oh , and they're certainly not submissive despite how much N. American women love to assert they must be (keeps their fragile female egos from being shattered I guess) Go ahead now and call me a misogynist . You can read at least one article a day in major publications saying much worse about men and nobody calls them out for being sexist . That's the irony though ... Western women (with their unacknowledged but considerable faults) complaining about men in every possible way yet having no idea why those same men are increasingly avoiding said women like they're the plague .

  72. Irene

    I am a Colombian girl studying in the US, back in Colombia and while I lived in Europe, I was able to make many connections with women; I am straight but women were always open to me being a woman and actually trying to be friends, it's here in the USA where women according to my experience tend to be ABSOLUTELY AND TOTAL BITCHES!! Sorry but I have never been exposed to such megalomaniacs, competitive, bitchy, angry, psycho, fake, plastic women in my entire life!!! American men on the other hand, strike me as a bit dumb, but very easygoing and open to new people and experiences. I have NOT had a problem finding dates in America, in fact I found my fiance here, an all American boy from Wisconsin who treat me like a princess, but guess what American women..... I EARNED THAT RESPECT AND LOVE. In my country you GIVE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE; I work out because in my country a woman is expected to stay in shape, I wear dresses, skirts, make up because I ENJOY BEING A WOMAN.... women here don't understand the concept of feminity and think feminity = weakness. For example I love cooking, my mom taught me how to cook because it's a mother - daughter bonding thing in my culture, and guess what? I cook for me and my American boyfriend, to the point he now wants to learn how to cook... good luck finding an American girl who can coo, most of his friends dating American women just get chinese or pizza while the slob of an American girlfriend sits there in her pijamas waiting for the food delivery to arrive while drinking beer....... women here have been nothing but evil towards me, and it's because of how I dress, of how I act, they assume I am being fake and pretensious but this is who I am.... I can sense a deep sense of jeaousy in them because they think that by me being feminine and enjoying catering to my man, I am being a fake girl! Let's not even talk about sex, American women have so many hang ups and think Sex is a tool to control men..... it's pathetic but I was branded as a slut because I said I enjoy pleasing my man and being pleased by him. NO WONDER AMERICAN WOMEN OVERSEAS HAVE SUCH A DIFFICULTY FINDING MEN!

  73. kujirakira

    Reannon Muth wrote... 「 @ Roy – I think you’re right about how the unlucky-in-love go to back home, get lucky and then blame the men in their foreign countries for why they were having problems before. In order to keep their new-found sense of self-esteem in tact, they have to find a reason to justify their lack of luck abroad. It’s too bad that that the reason is usually “Well the Foreign men were all geeky snot-nosed shy weaklings anyway, so what do I care? They don’t deserve me…” The fact that there might be a grain of truth to that, doesn’t help any. It’s really too bad though that in order for me to be happy at home, I have to develop a hatred for those abroad. 」 Fixed that for you.

  74. xoxo

    marry an American woman and you'll have to hire a maid to cook and clean the house because she can't cook to save her life and is too lazy to clean anything.... and of course, let the mexican lady raise your children because american women don't have motherly skills either. then dont be surprised if she wants to divorce you, take everything you've earned with hard work and spend it all in garbage made in china while bitterly bitching because men don;'t fall on their knees when she passes by!!!

  75. mr. beenthere

    You know there is a lot of truth to this. I met what I thought was a wonderful Canadian girl who had some issues but who doesn't? Thought I could help her, be there for her. Perhaps we could help one another. But as time went on, my help was given without question yet anything she did for me was held over my head. Sex was about control. It didn't work out, she cheated and lied to me. It sucked, I was happy about it. But these things happen. After some time apart, I found myself wondering how she was and called her a few times, just to see what time had brought her. No intention of getting back together. I discovered after a few months of being ignored that she was mad at me for ignoring her. I didn't ignore her, I simply kept my distance after she stomped all over my heart. And even though she never made an attempt to see how I was doing in that time, she remained angry that I never called her. Since then I've met some women living in Canada who were not born here. Guess what? They treat me with respect, and I have had 2 great relationships. The first ended because she had to return to her home country and I long distance wasn't an option. It seems terrible but I have to agree. Of all my friends who married only a few are still barely hanging in. And it was always the men who were left crushed and unable to understand why after all they did for these women, they have no love left and simply try to take everything they can. IF you have found a North American woman who still loves you and treats you well, don't lose her and don't give her a reason to hate men and maybe....just maybe, she will instill her qualities in a future generation.

  76. JT Is Hypocritical

    "It seems a bit self-serving to say that those who didn’t chase you are inferior and the theme runs through all your post" "American men get better women in Tokyo because the women there are better." Do you think that statement is self serving? It is stating that someone is inferior to another. "I also don’t think there was a lot of North American woman hate going on. I think most North American men are pleasantly surprised to find themselves in a place with a much higher quality female population and that may at times take the form of making snide comments about North American women but generally the feeling towards American women was indifference." Really it's just snide remarks? Then calling american men fat, evil, smell awful, making the worst husbands but great for using them for money, and bring little to relationships other than nagging for sex and obesity is just snide remarks. Where is the calling their remarks self-serving since these men's responses are stating the women are inferior and they are superior? Odd logic: her single and one joking comment that Japanese men could have been intimidated = self serving Multiple repeated negative comments like american women are evil = snide comments not North American woman hate. Yeah.....

  77. Alex Awh Alex

    "In Asia you meet ‘strange’ women who routinely strike up conversation with you for no other purpose than to have a chat and practice their English. No longer does a woman need to know what kind of car you drive before she’ll give you the time of day." Interesting don't you only approach women you find attractive. That's only giving the time of day to someone you find attractive. Same thing to me. "In Asia women take care of their bodies. Rather than over eating and demanding you “love them the way they are”, their is an active pressure on women to stay in shape." Interesting you were chubby but wanted an in shape fit girl. Doesn't that mean you overate & wanted someone to love you the way you were...well if that someone was a fit girl. "In Asia, relationships are actually “Equal” and not this bizarre form of cuckoldry that passes for equality in our society. " How was it equal for a chubby guy to get a fit girl? How was it equal for a chubby guy to want someone to love him the way he is but think that his partner should take care of her body and not pull any love me the way I am bs? "No longer was I “expected” to pay while on a first date with a woman who made more money than me. " Maybe those overeating love me the way I am girls would also like to not be expected to have an active pressure to stay in shape. Especially when the guy is not in shape himself. Perhaps they liked a chubby guy whose okay with them being chubby too. "I blame this failing on our parents generation more than anything else. I believe that when women won the right to get a divorce, it was intended to be used sparingly to extricate themselves from horrible situations and abusive relationships. Now it seems to be used when a woman gets bored, finds a richer guy or to fleece men of half their belongings." No woman should have to say in a relationship she doesn't want just because he's not abusive. The half of the belongings bit is the problem not women winning the right to divorce.

  78. Xenon

    "I agree completely with the posts bashing American/Western women." "As an anecdote, I had helped once a mademoiselle with her heavy luggage (unsolicited help in fact) after the train stopped. Back in Eastern Europe/Arabic Countries/Africa/Asia this act would have been appreciated and interpreted at least chivalrous and thanked. This girl considered herself insulted, as I had treated her as a weakling. I know it is wrong to generalize but sometimes the generalization is healthy: i always treat fire as something dangerous and avoidable, I don’t keep sticking my finger into it just because this one it might be different. Fire burns, American women are bad" Interesting so because an American didn't like your action it means you're agreeing to bashing them. Do you also bash cultures where an action you did is seen as rude? So you agree with bashing those that don't like what you do rather than respect that not everyone will like what you do...yeah. That doesn't seem like feminism's fault.

  79. Delta Damn

    Lots of angry in your post. "Western women are overly demanding, greedy, usually overweight with lesbian haircuts and have a wardrobe full of jeans. If the marriage ends the women screw you for every penny and the state assists in the abduction of your children by your former wife, you are usually thrown out of the home." Overly demanding- egh either way. Plenty of ugly/average guys call an attractive girl shallow/stuck up/princess if she wants an equally attractive guy. Isn't the guy being overly demanding by wanting what he can't offer? Greedy- egh either way. Plenty of guys want to do less work in their relationships and all servitude areas are womans work. Usually overweight- egh either way. Americans are usually overweight. Lesbian haircuts- are you aware baldness is increasing in western male youths and not every girl finds it sexy? "Men want wives, wives who are equal but with differing roles, "western women don’t want to cook a meal for their man" So? Plenty of western men don't want to cook a meal for their woman. If this is one of those equal but with differing roles bs...then you could say plenty of western men don't want to be the sole or majority breadwinner or plenty of western men don't want to buy expensive gifts or provide for their women. "they find no joy in presenting their man with a set of cleaned clothes when he returns as the breadwinner." Breadwinner? Are you aware most American households are either: they make about the same with less than $10,000 difference, the woman makes slightly more, it's equal, or the woman makes the majority. Few households have the men making slightly more, the majority, or even the sole breadwinner. "We want wives, and its not about sex, we want loving relationships with females whom act in a female manner." Interesting when American women say they want males who act in a male manner aka provide for them, have financial security aka earning what she earns, and are confident it becomes high standards and self entitlement. "Its also worth pointing out we dont want a woman who has had god knows how many partners" Ah the slut double standard. Are you aware that in the slut double standard the undesirables are the virgin/inexperienced men & the slut girls. So would you be okay with a woman pointing out that we don't want men who are virgins or have low numbers. *sacrasm*

  80. xoxo not really helping the don't want submissive women argument

    "marry an American woman and you’ll have to hire a maid to cook and clean the house because she can’t cook to save her life and is too lazy to clean anything" So the maid is hired because the American man expects his wife to cook & clean for him while also being too lazy to clean anything & can't cook to save his life? "…. and of course, let the mexican lady raise your children because american women don’t have motherly skills either." So the mexican lady raises the children because the American man expects his wife to and also doesn't have enough fatherly skills? If this is a case of gender roles where the man is the sole breadwinner & the woman is the homemaker then how come so many American men see gold digger & say self entitled when a woman says she wants financial security, a man who makes X amount, or a man to provide for her?

  81. Jeff Really

    So your experience validates this "Mainstream media and the pop culture environment have literally brainwashed and hardwired American females into thinking they are something special and that they deserve nothing but the best in life in everything from college degrees, careers, and men." So since lots of American women have sh*t experiences with men I guess men can't complain that. Your choice to remain in a relationship with a toxice person is somehow the fault of the feminist movement. Rather than you choosing her and staying with her...really? Perhaps the fault is what you were attracted to. after all you chose her or staying with her after seeing she was toxic. Then again it's usually easier for men to blame feminism rather then take responsibility. "As a man, you have absolutely no control over a marriage." Prenup and a state that respects it.

  82. ChrisK Really

    "Have you never noticed how in N. American (actually , all Westernized countries) media , it doesn’t matter what a woman does , it’s somehow a man’s fault ?" Really? When a woman gets raped it's somehow her fault. What she did or didn't do is why she got raped and she's responsible for getting raped. If she drank this much, drugged this much, dressed this way, flirted this much, or whatever then it's her fault or what did she expect. When a woman gets cheated on it's somehow her fault- getting older, getting fatter, not having sex every time he wanted, not doing some specific sexual act he wanted. Seems like you're using feminist bs tactics and just claiming men = victims.

  83. George Apply Your Advice To Yourself

    "If you want men to treat you better, you have to be better. If you want men to like you, you must do things they like. Some will perhaps meet you halfway. " Interesting the responses on the post showed that telling guys if they want women to like them they must do things she likes or treat her in a certain way = princess syndrome. Especially when you tell them that perhaps a few will meet you halfway. "Powerful men don’t have to change for you" Interesting seems like most men would react negatively if told that attractive women don't have to change for you and if you want one you have to change. Most would call it her being self-entitled, overvaluing herself, and since she's attractive she's been put on a pedestal and thinks she deserves what she wants. In fact most men would get upset if an attractive woman wanted an equally attractive guy so saying attractive women don't have to change for you would get quite a response. Aren't most men complaining that attractive women won't give chances to average/ugly guys and that these same guys can get attractive & more attractive women who aren't shallow in other countries? Somehow she's shallow for wanting an equally attractive partner yet he's not shallow for wanting a more attractive partner. "And men don’t care for your poorly-informed judgments on their culture, behavior, or personalities." Interesting...I don't care for your poorly-informed judgements on her character and personality. I also don't care much for your hyproctical bs. "Your lazy, high-minded opinions on the treatment you believe to be entitled to have no value to the majority of men on planet earth." Interesting that you don't apply that your opinion on American women should treat men and your belief on the treatment you think men are entitled to. "We (men) are just sick of being criticized & told what to do by women who haven’t earned our respect." Perhaps women are sick of being criticized & told what to do by men who haven't earned their respect. Especially when a guy gives advice and is advising her to do the same things that the same man is complain about that women do.

  84. CptFreakout Is That How You Define Truth

    So because a lot of people say it and they're different groups that means it's the truth? Plenty of radical feminists & misandrists & lesbians say all or most men are rapists or rapist in waiting...guess that means it's true.

  85. Johnny really?

    "The primiscuous sex god attitude that womans rights gave woman" How is that any different than the sex god or desire to be one attitude that a lot of men have? ",and their career pursuits made them unbareable to be around" Really? Really? ",no man wants them and they end up “career”mothers,working and going to school and raising children all by themselves." Might not be bad if that's their choice. A lot of American women are opting out of relationships & marriage. A lot of women would prefer to have a career versus never have a career and be a wife/mother. Some want it both career & wife/mother but if given the option they'd take career and being a mother over just wife/mother. "Entitlement minded,arrogant, obese princesses,lazy,goldiggers." Also might not be bad that no man wants them if it seems like the most men think the majority of women are like this. Not too many people would like to be with someone who thinks lowly of the majority of their gender, race, or culture.

  86. John Doe

    The reason why is it not recommended that a European man (also in many cases, but not all an American man raised by a European mother) to marry an American women and should only marry a European women is the following reason. When Americans travel abroad to other countries they stick out and hated by the rest of the world is because they are raised and behave different and you can pick the Americans apart from the rest of the world. This is easily perceived and is very obvious when Americans travel to other countries. This is also the only reason why Tiger Woods Intentionally has two children a Swedish women not an American woman. In many cases a European man will marry a American born and raised women with a European mother/grand mother because she is raised European (not American) and would be mistaken as a European not a American when she travels to other countries/Europe. She got something extra from her European mother. Many European women will marry a American born and raised man with a European mother/grand mother because many would be mistaken as a European not American when they travel to other countries/Europe because they got some thing extra from his European mother. It is also recommend that European women (also in many cases but not all an American born and raised by a European mother) marry European man and stay away from American man. It is also recommend that American man should only marry American women and stay away from European/foreign women. European man should only marry European women.

  87. Spectator

    Gotta love the 10 replies in a row from the same deranged North American woman. The truth hurts I know honey.

  88. Mars

    I honestly don't know how I got here, but I'm not complaining. This is an interesting read. As a seventeen year old, in America, I'm a bit appalled at the way the world really perceives women from America. I mean, I already knew from talking with foreign exchange students that the opinion of Americans was low on the global scale. But, wow. I don't know where all of you are meeting women in America, but I can honestly say I am not surrounded by disillusioned princess' waiting for a rich man to sweep them off their feet whilst laughing at those that can't afford Gucci this, Gucci that. The women I have grown up around work hard for what they have, and men come in to the equation not to give the women's saving a boost for an SUV, but for companionship. Likewise, the men I've been surrounded by my entire life may not be the best role models or be rich (Same easily said for the women), but they do the best they can, and they have wonderful manners. Maybe it's because I was born and raised and still live in a small town in Kansas, but I rarely encounter outwardly rude and entitled people (that attempt to talk to me or anyone I commonly interact with, that is) either. Of course, there are those bad apples. But, they're every where. Every country has them. Every single one. In fact, it's always the U.K. that I hear terrible things about. From people that have visited there, and had first-hand experience to horrifying manners. So, as a genuine question, what makes American women seem so terrible to you? (Whether you are a man or a woman. Whether from personal experience or he said/she said.)

  89. John Doe

    Are you Americans aware that if a American man has US born children with a European mother (example Belgium, Italy and Sweden) they would be better behaved than most Americans and he would have a better relationship with his children than most American man have and can thank there European mother for that. But if they were to walk the streets in Europe it would appear that they are not more Americanized than there European mother and most people in Europe would think they are born in Europe. This applies to both male and female children. For example a American man born and raised the 1970’s in Texas with a German mother, the French would think he was born in Germany if he were to visit France 30 years later for work. The same goes for a American women that are raised by a European mother.

  90. John Doe

    Radio talks show host Tom Leykis he has given up along time ago dating American women who are born in the USA and act like Americans. The women he as stuck that are born in another country (outside the USA) and came to the United States at any age. He also stuck to American women who have parents/grand parents who came from another country. They are old-fashioned subscribe to culture and costumes of the country where there parents/grand parents are from. If you were to marry a foreign woman your first generation daughter (also common with second generation grand daughter) should be raised that way, same way her mother is raised. American women do not like the competition they get from other countries with increased immigration to the United States. Many foreign women have a very negative opinion of American women. Tom Leykis- American women vs Foreign Women 1 Tom Leykis- American women vs Foreign Women 2 Tom Leykis- American women vs Foreign Women 3 Tom Leykis- Sick of American Women 1 Tom Leykis- Sick of American Women 2 Tom Leykis- Sick of American Women 3 Tom Leykis- Sick of American Women 4 Tom Leykis- Foreign Women Critique American Women 1 Tom Leykis- Foreign Women Critique American Women 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONBVM4IWV1E&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8rPVWOVMY8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YlLAmkNwQE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjqAb6KqkxE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8rPVWOVMY8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ro5TzyoxM8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN2Lj3t7ph0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj_5V1uGzf8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL7D9751A6AE315CE2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_VHZxEtG0

  91. EL

    wow, what a great discussion! Dear Reannon, I've been your reader for sometime now and love all your work.. So here's my two cents on this subject -- I would say yes and no.. Yes, because a lot of things in those comments about American women are true to some extent and NO because American women in US more than in any other country are pressured daily for " Perfection " ( that doesn't exist in the REAL world ) just look at the Hollywood image of what a beautiful woman supposed to look like ( it's BS ! ) Every woman is beautiful and unique, but not every woman knows it and feels it. Living in Beverly Hills or Los Angeles in general, really is a great testimony to that -- Most of women don't even have an inch of their skin that has not been worked on ... sad ... I see some of those mall signs -- " Eat, Shop, Play " ( and then call 800 number get thin, which is displayed right next to McDonald's ) -- Huh? really? that's it? How about love? go see a play? visit a gallery? see an independent film? visit a new country? love yourself? Here's a quote from a really nice book " French women don't get fat " -- "Working out" seems a great, joyless effort. American women have two modes -- sitting or spinning. French women prefer gentler, more regular varieties of all-day movement. They see exertion as an integral part of the day. They walk a lot (3x more than the average American woman.) They walk up and down stairs vs. the elevator." "French women take pleasure in...eating well, while American women see it as a conflict and obsess over it. French women typically think about good things to eat. American women typically worry about bad things to eat". American women punish themselves for having that piece of chocolate , European women .. " walk it off " .. or .. ( is it a PG 13 site ? ) : ) American women seem to be more of a " buddy buddy " with the guys and go to sport bars and don't mind drinking beer out of red plastic cups .. wear jeans all the time and have messy hair ( and I don't mean sexy " bed hair " , the other messy .. ) and so on.. and then cry that guys are not seduced by them.. European women ( let's say Russian or French , would never take part in this ) I think French women really have mastered the Art of Seduction and know how to really make a man loose his mind.. ( I think we can learn a lot from them ) Here's a something I wrote about consumerism, stuff & on what's important or not ( which is a big part of American Woman's life and not just American actually ... it's becoming a global problem ) -- I’m a woman of uncertain age who loves blues and men of certain age. Social status and all the nonsense that comes with it has never been a goal or a priority of mine. I can’t tell the difference between jimmy choos or prada. To me it’s all just a shiny wrapper with no substance or real value. Our world today has more important issues to deal with, than a decision making of what brand of shoes to buy this afternoon or what color the highlights should be, based on some glossy paper with starving models on it. Agree? I can’t stand shopping, beauty salons, clutter, consumerism and “stuff”. I refuse to be a “product zombie”. We really don’t need more stuff than we actually need. Do we really need those latest jimmy choos? The answer is no, we don’t. We want them because advertising machine has flooded us with thousands of signals from our TV’s, streets, Internet, etc., We have become completely “Brandwashed” to the point of no return with slogans that scream at us that we’re not good enough, cool enough, young enough, beautiful enough…fill in the blank… You are more than enough! You are beautiful and unique in your own amazing way! Don’t ever let anyone sabotage or doubt that… not even yourself.. What can I say, I’m just a happy Minimalist after all… I don’t have much “stuff” at home ( wherever that might be ) or when I’m on the road… But this is what I do have — Great friendships around the world, amazing collection of countless pictures, beautiful memories, transcendent experiences and mind-blowing, out of this world moments that take my breath away. Passports full of stamps — with 4 Continents and 23 beautiful countries, in 4 of which I have lived and studied in for several years — Russian Federation, United Kingdom, Cyprus and United States of America. — Those are all the things that are worth investing in. (for me that is) But not so much into those shoes with red soles (I don’t care about the color of soles on my shoes… really, I just don’t), diamond watch (which are so overly modern at times that you can’t even understand what time it is) 20 carat diamond rings (what is that all about? Is your self-esteem really that low?..) and a pair of boobs to match (sorry, ladies, couldn’t resist) I choose to collect memories instead of things…Because what matters at the end of the day are not things at all … It’s all those shared moments of laughter, joy, love and everything in between with people we love. It’s about creating yourself, discovering the world around us and helping each other along the way. And it’s also about dancing while the music is being played… Safe Travels to all of you free spirits out there and Bon Voyage! Keep dreaming, keep exploring and keep following your hearts! love & light, EL ( The Russian kind of woman .. ) You may visit & follow my travel blog HERE would love to hear Your truth...

  92. Rajesh Kumar

    The comments you received are well deserved. When men discuss women or for that matter women discuss men, they do it with respect to their relationship with each other. If men are not satisfied with their relationship with women, they have every right to express their views, including propagation of views of boycotting women or marriage. On the same logic women are justified too if they are not happy with their relationship with men. In fact women are expressing such views for last 50 years... if you so desire to read their views just search radical feminism. Expression of such feeling by men is certainly a news. It is news because it is going to alter the world we know. I know American men who have gone to distant land just to get married to women who wish to a wife. There are many women who dont want to be a wife, and they are justified in their decision.... but at the same time men cannot be blamed for refusing to marry a woman who does not want to be a wife.

  93. Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c)

    Maybe you should check out the HATRED that western women spew out at the BEST of husbands. In my divorce my ex committed the crimes of perjury, kidnapping, extortion, theft and child abuse. For standing up for my rights I have been HATED on for FOUR YEARS. Women have called for my DEATH!! I have been falsely accused of being a paedophile, a wife beater, a cheater and a bad father by WOMEN AND MEN I DO NOT EVEN KNOW!!! You women have made your bed. You are now going to reap the rewards. http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/3/threadid/54/scope/posts/Default.aspx By the way? When I was suicidal an eastern european woman helped me a great deal. This is what she has to say about me. Gee...I wonder why I LOVE spending time with her and AVOID western women? The comments above are too kind. http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/39/threadid/718/scope/posts/Default.aspx

  94. John Doe

    British man boycotts American Women Patrick from England: This is correct. I am a European living in the United States and I was told by several European man and European women to stay away from American women and stick to European women. Even my own Sister says this American women. The main problem in USA is they are very demanding consumers, yet want everything cheap or free and their women are extremely selfish entitled "princesses" with trash psychology. You won't be given a second chance even by a fat and ugly US woman. White straight male is the most hated creature in the whole of United States. Facts and Conclusions, ladies! Ethan from Texas writes: Here are the facts: 1. A U.S. Green Card is valued by at least some foreigners. 2. There are MANY THOUSANDS of websites matching American men with foreign women. 3. Despite the value of a Green Card, there are NO sites matching American women with foreign men. Conclusion: 1. There are ENORMOUS desire/demand for American men from foreign women. 2. There is NO desire or demand for American 96 women from foreign men (shame on you, ladies!). 3. It is likely that foreign people perceive American men to be BETTER than American women. An American woman who is born in the United States to an Italian woman who became a naturalized Australian citizen told me that 90 percent of Australian/American women are a piece of crap. This is very common among American women with a European born mother.

  95. John Doe

    There are women who are born in the USA and have lived there entire lives in the USA that are European (not American) raised. You are a American or European based on how you are raised not born. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide.

  96. Cary Ryan

    I think that you are making a huge generalisation. I think the men who agree with you here are just very grumpy and unhappy fellows who won't be happy with anything until they are six feet under. Take Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) for example. He's one of the most sad people on the planet, although he is mentally disturbed. He was violent toward his spouse in front of his children and was arrested by police. You can't kidnap your own children Nolan. You have disowned your children because they want nothing to do with a violent narcisstic psychopath like you. You can't steal from your own company. For publishing your ex-wife's personal contact details and the details of your in-laws on your sick little website I can imagine there are quite alot of people who would dance on your grave PS Sex workers will say anything to you to keep you happy old Loopy Pete.

  97. Mark

    I think Geoffrey has it on spot

  98. xysea1971

    Wow, this whole blog makes me sad. I am an American woman married to a British man. I dress nicely, but not expensively. I work full-time. I write poetry, and I read and I enjoy music and good conversation. I am not egotistical. I am not money-grubbing. I have plenty of very nice friends who are very much like me. I feel like I have to state the obvious, that not all American women are horrible, shallow people who are only interested in what a man earns. But, after reading many responses here, I have to wonder, what is the point? You will believe what you wish to believe about me, based on where I come from. And had I done that to you, I'd have been electronically crucified online. As an American, if I protest, it just proves the worst about my character. So, please, go right on ahead. Call me shallow. Call me moneygrubbing. Call me lazy, and fat and unsuitable to be a wife. And I will be polite enough, and kind enough, not to return the favor.

  99. LoViNg LiFe

    I am a 42 year old divorced Canadian man, with full custody of my 2 kids. I consider myself attractive, athletic, intelligent, and have a great full time job that gives me a gross income of $125,000 a year. I went to Ukraine 5 years ago and dated a few different women. I will say this about the Eastern European women; they are beautiful, well dressed, intelligent, and very very feminine. They are also very hard done by, as the men I seen for the most part drunk and ignorant. The women were raised on very little money, and their biggest concern was to find a good man who might be able to raise one or two kids. I had never experienced this level of class in a Canadian woman. I have dated many women in Canada, and only one of my Canadian ex Gfs ever had manners or etiquette, and I must say she was a little overweight but made up for it in personality and charm. I will never bring a foreign women over here, only because I would have to get remarried, which i will never do. I have joined the nomarriage/marriageban. Marriage in North America is a financial death sentence if you lose in court. It is very easy to pick up a local girl for a no strings attached date/sex here in Canada. I have different groups of friends and usually approached by single girls who are usually in the 30 to 35 age range. My younger brother is a chemical engineer, and was not so lucky in the dating scene at home. He was working in Scandinavia, flying there every 2 months, and I would ask if he was dating any foreign girls. He said he had met one on Eharmony, she was from Russia, and he would fly to Russia to visit her from Norway. Well, he is now a proponent for marrying foreign women. I asked him why did he marry his now Russian wife. He said 'she cooks, she cleans, she has 2 University degrees in accounting and business, she was in the Russian army - Infantry! for 7 years (shes 28 now, he is 38). This girl is blonde, gorgeous, and fit. He said when he came back after only one visit to Russia, he went to the mall, and was disgusted. He told me this about Canadian women : You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. Many girls have said it's their choice to dress how they want, act how they want, do what they want, and so on. But men have a choice. And I know that if I can have a steak for less money and effort than it takes to pick up an uncooked fermenting bowl of mac n cheese, I am going for the steak. And please do not fault me for it.

  100. Chris

    xysea1971, Just do me a favor and count how many times you said "I" in your post. Thanks.

  101. Curious chris

    She is discussing how their views of American women don't apply to her. What other words would you have her use when talking about herself and a view that does not apply? If you're trying to imply that stating "I" shows self entitlement then the plentiful guys spewing irrationality & hatred have it in spades.

  102. Jack

    Your mothers must be so proud of you all!

  103. Gloria

    Yes. North American women really are THAT bad!

  104. Beth

    It sadly seems that this particular post has become a site for prople to write scathing remarks about Western women or if you would US/Canadian. Yes I am a 20 something caucasian American female who does have somewhat of a feminist point of view. I do feel bad for all the men (wherever they may be from) who've had negative experiences with American women. From my experiences and observations, it's hard being a woman period. I knoe a lot of the negative comments are based on actual experience but as a woman I've also had it hard. As one of those women who is overweight, I have struggled with my own issues of not feeling attractive enough. I guess because I have my own shortcomings I'm more willing to accept other's as well. I've also travelled to Latin America (Central America & Brazil) and Asia (S.Korea) and one thing I can say about both regions is that there is a stereotype of American women being easy. I have met American women who do fit this stereotype but not everyone is his way and I guess that's why it's called a stereotype. I guess what I want to say is that for those ex-pat men who say it was hard for them when they were dating demanding American women, imagine how hard it is for those who aren't but are written off as such.

  105. Mark

    I've lived in the U.S. for 20 years now and have dated nothing but dysfunctional, selfish, self-absorbed, shrews. In a country of 300+ million people there must be good women out there, but they are as elusive as bigfoot. I've started traveling extensively and found that kind, respectful, feminine, interesting women are everywhere. Meeting them is effortless and natural, no jumping through hoops like a circus monkey required. To the American men out there I say travel, travel, travel. Go to Europe (not England), Asia, and Latin America. You will never waste your time on American women again. Trust me.

  106. Albert

    Western women are a poor choice. I've had it up to the sky with their self-serving victim posturing. They're just miserable and unhappy people who find it easier to cop out and blame men for everything rather than take responsibility for their own lives.

  107. Eurotrasher

    Cultural relativism for the win! Maybe North American men do better overseas not because NA women suck as a rule, or NA men are so much better (seriously why is that cute Asian girl talking to your fat ass?), but because many non-NA men are such shit? I travelled a bit during and after college. I did well dating in Japan because white guys are 'exotic' the same way Asian girls are 'exotic' in America. (My black friend did better than I in Scandinavia for exactly that reason. I'm tall blond and fit, which is slightly less exotic than being black in Iceland/Norway/Sweden). I got a date in Australia purely because I held a door open for a woman who , before I said anything, said I must be a Yank because Aussie men have terrible manners. According to the French girls, they liked me because I smelled better than most of the guys in Paris and didn't screw around on them. In fact 'not sleeping around on them' was a major theme regarding American men I heard from girls all over Europe, though I'm not exactly sure why they think that, plenty of us who travel are more than happy to spread the love. The Namibian 'prince' who was an exchange student at my school got deported for beating the shit out of his American girlfriend for not being as submissive as she was 'supposed' to be in his culture. So yeah, I can see why American men might have an OK reputation abroad. I'd also note that while abroad I got called 'Yank' the most by local men who saw me with the local girls who apparently weren't having anything to do with them...go figure. Back home, a member of Norwegian nobility attended my university. She was gorgeous, intelligent, a pleasure to be around and had some of the most beautiful eyes I have ever seen. She never had any problems getting attention from any men she met, despite the fact that she was more than slightly overweight (not obese, but certainly not HWP). But only NA women are fat right? Where I currently work, two men who had married hot, skinny Russians they mail-ordered are now divorced with substantially less money in their bank accounts. But NA women are the golddiggers right? My advice to non-NA guys who can't score with American women: Maybe you should bathe more and check your Old World chauvinistic attitudes at the door. To the NA men who have foresworn NA women, I'm glad you found someone who comes from a culture where your views regarding gender roles fit the status quo or even seem downright progressive. That just means that the fit, intelligent, progressive American girls I like don't have to trifle with your sorry ass on the way to finding someone worthwhile. So yeah, the grass is always greener.

  108. hmmm

    As a foreign guy, I must say that I'd never marry an American woman although they're great for some quick fun. I've seen friends marry AW and suffer through emasculation, adultery, divorce, and loss of children and worldy possessions..I believe this applies to other Anglo-Saxon women too (Brits, Aussies etc.)

  109. Ulli

    It's hard to decide what disgusts me more about the comments made by men here: those that claim "European" women are so much better submissive wife material than American ones ("my Russian supermodel sexgoddess cooks and cleans and dresses pretty all the time", barf barf barf) or the ones who claim that American men are amazing and obviously all non-American women throw themselves at them because the men in their countries are all terrible. As a German girl living in New Zealand and dating an amazing Australian/Japanese guy, I can tell you that both is complete bullshit! Newsflash - there are strong, self-confident women who don't take 19th century bullshit from men anymore EVERYWHERE in the world, just as you can find submissive, old-school women anywhere as well. And at least both here in NZ as well as in Germany women look for modern, open-minded and respectful men, regardless of race or country of origin, who accept us as equal partners not sexy housewife/submissive sex goddess fantasies. As for those gorgeous, fantastic Russian/Eastern European supermodel wives - I lived with a Russian girl for a year and all she and her Russian girlfriends could talk about was finding a husband and then finally having someone to buy them all the pretty designer clothes they ever wanted. Vapid much? If you want a woman who only married you so that she has someone to milk financially then go ahead.

  110. Dale

    "They’re just miserable and unhappy people who find it easier to cop out and blame men for everything rather than take responsibility for their own lives" Albert: Read your own post and then tell me who the miserable unhappy one is. Pot calling the kettle black

  111. Ed

    Some of the women that get on here and spew hateful and spiteful words are only proving right the fact that most American women DO suck! Who wants to talk to a bitchy, self-righteous, lying, conniving, thieving, lazy piece of crap? How is a man stating his opinion being whiny? That's bullsh*t!! The guys saying that are the ones getting milked like cows by these same evil and manipulative whores. Nobody is saying give up on all of them but the women that are perpetrators and instigators; they are the ones to ignore. It's not whining, quite a few men like myself are just plain fed up with the shit and won't take it anymore. These kinds of women; once again; not talking about ALL of them, but most of them watch too much TV and think it's okay for them to act that way. Same with the magazines and newspapers. They've got the word "equality" confused. This is simply being able to do the same things as others do. But they believe it means cleaning out a man's bank account, cheating on him and manipulating him to do what she wants him to do. Who in the hell wants to live like that? It damn sure isn't me, that you can believe!! To hell with marriage, just find a good fuck buddy and leave it at that! I know there will be some that won't agree with what I had to say, and that's fine, but picture me giving a damn!! I'm not going to be treated like trash by these floozies anymore!!

  112. Reannon Muth

    @ Beth - I think you nailed it on the head with this one: "I guess what I want to say is that for those ex-pat men who say it was hard for them when they were dating demanding American women, imagine how hard it is for those who aren’t but are written off as such." This is what I've gathered from the comments: 1. American women are superficial and have unrealistic standards and are unable to look past a man's perceived shortcomings or physical appearance to see the caring, sensitive guy behind the wall of insecurities and pain. 2. American men are superficial and have unrealistic standards and are unable to look past a woman's perceived shortcomings or physical appearance to see the caring, sensitive girl behind the wall of insecurities and pain. I think the old "when your pointing one finger, you're pointing three fingers back" saying applies well here. Or as Jesus said, "Don't focus on the speck in your brother's eye while ignoring the log in your own eye." It seems like there are a lot of male commenters here decrying American women for being superficial and then in the same sentence, turning around and saying American women are undatable because they are 'fat' and 'bad dressers'. If that isn't being superficial, then what is?

  113. Albert

    Dale: "Read your own post and then tell me who the miserable unhappy one is." Not me. I was merely making a candid observation. American women, especially feminists, bash men for sport and then get defensive when men bash back. You just proved my point.

  114. Alexander

    @Reannon Muth You have clearly learned nothing from any of the posts people have made in response to your question. After dozens of posts explaining why North American women are romantically ignored overseas, your grand conclusion is: "Men are just as hypocritical as women"??? Your arrogance and ignorance is completely staggering. Needless to say but clearly you are not interested in a dialogue about the dating culture in North America or altering your racist and narrow minded attitudes concern mixed race Asian female/White male relationships. My guess is that you will never return to Asia for any long term period having been slapped upside the head with a well needed reality check. Instead you will stay in places where you are more comfortable, namely places where you can find a constant lineup of hapless twits more than happy to cater to your every whim and put up with your nonsense. More power to you. I don't begrudge you trying to find romantic happiness where you can find it. Clearly Asia is a bad place for women as inflexible and set in their ways as you. I just wish that if you took anything from your two blogposts and the minor furor they caused it would be to return the favour us guys. Don't hate or look down on men who choose to look for romance outside of North America. Both your posts contained a sneeringly derisive towards men that is a large part of the negative reaction in the comment section.

  115. Alexander

    **** corrected some glaring spelling errors as I wrote the above post in a bit of a hurry **** @Reannon Muth You have clearly learned nothing from any of the posts people have made in response to your question. After dozens of posts explaining why North American women are romantically ignored overseas, your grand conclusion is: “Men are just as hypocritical as women”??? Your arrogance and ignorance is completely staggering. Needless to say but clearly you are not interested in a dialogue about the dating culture in North America or altering your racist and narrow minded attitudes concerning mixed race Asian female/White male relationships. My guess is that you will never return to Asia for any long term period having been slapped upside the head with a well needed reality check. Instead you will stay in places where you are more comfortable, namely places where you can find a constant lineup of hapless twits more than happy to cater to your every whim and put up with your nonsense. More power to you. I don’t begrudge you trying to find romantic happiness where you can find it. Clearly Asia is a bad place for women as inflexible and set in their ways as you. I just wish that if you took anything from your two blogposts and the minor furor they caused it would be to return the favour to us guys. Don’t hate or look down on men who choose to look for romance outside of North America. Both your posts contained a sneeringly derisive attitude towards men that is a large part of the negative reaction in the comment section.

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  117. John Doe

    This is why is dumb that a European man (also many US born man raised by a European mother) to marry an American woman and should stick to European women or a US born woman that is raised by a European born mother. This is also why it is recommend that European women (also in many cases but not all an American born and raised women by a European mother) marry European man and stay away from American man. European man should only marry European women. It is also recommend that American man should only marry American women and stay away from European/foreign women (International child abduction). You are a European or American based on how you are raised by your parents when you are a small child not was you are born. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. I still have European mentality. There for when I walk the streets in Asia, Africa, Canada, Latin America & Europe, every body thinks that I was born in Europe and it is impossible for any body to tell that I am an American based on the way I was raised by my parents when I was a small child and behave other then the fact I speak English with a American accent. I had Canadians tell me that when I visited Canada that they hate the Americans (US citizens) becase they can not proparly present them selves abroad and the only reason they liked me is because I am a European. When Americans travel abroad to other countries they stick out and hated by the rest of the world (Example Asia, Africa, Canada, Europe & Mexico/Latin America) is because they are raised by there parrents when they are children and behave different than the rest of the world. You can pick the Americans apart from the rest of the world (they can not properly present them selves abroad). Between 40 and 60 percent of American women are overweight. In Russia and Europe, between 95 and 100 percent of the young women are skinny or height/weight proportionate. This is absolutely indisputable, apparent, objectively measurable, and not subject to relative opinion or standards at all, as it has to do with obvious physical differences apparent to the naked eye that even the biggest idiot in the world who goes to both regions could identify immediately without effort. This is easily perceived and is very obvious when Americans travel to other countries. Brits who have met Americans in Europe regard a lot of them as arrogant because by announcing that they are American seems to make them think that they deserve preferential treatment. In Britain that is frowned upon – seriously. From a personal point of view, I treat Americans as I treat everybody else. The same thing happens when Americans travel to other countries example Canada, France and Japan. When Americans visit those countries the local populations hates those Americans for this reason alone. When the children of Tiger Woods visit other countries people would think they are born in Sweden and the daughter of Rupert Murdoch’s daughter would be mistaken as Chinese not American. US Diplomats who work for the State Department are liked in more than 100 countries that have diplomatic relations with the United States. This is because they can properly present them selves abroad. Most Americans (both male and female) with a European born parent can easily pass as a European when they travel to other countries because they got something extra from there European parents (that majority of Americans do not get) and they know this to because that is what most Europeans tell them. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. For example an American man born and raised the 1970’s in Texas with a German mother, the French would think he was born in Germany if he were to visit France 30 years later for work/business (no American influence). A few years earlier I saw a 12-year-old girl with her Germany mother at work. I thought she was from Germany, because she is not more Americanized than an average German child that has never been to the USA and her German mother. That was the first thing I noticed when I saw her with her German mother. I also noticed that she is better behaved than most American children/adults and has a better relationship with mother than most American children and she was speaking German to her mother. She told me that when she visits Germany it is impossible to tell that she is an American based on the way she behaves and is raised. Her German mother conformed that that is correct. The child told me that she was born in the USA (around 1998) to German parents who immigrated to the USA shortly before she was born and still have their green card but she has duel German/US nationality. According to her German mother she has the skills to Germany survive in Germany easily as her German parents can and can be equally be trusted. Many Americans who are raised that way by European parents use European passports of their parent’s native country when they travel to other countries so it is impossible for any body to tell that they are Americans. This is because in many countries they say in the open they hate Americans because Americans cannot properly present them selves abroad. For instance, SOME Europeans have a low view of Americans and thus any thing that an American does may be viewed negatively. In some countries, like France, the French may actually go out of their way to demonstrate rudeness to Americans, mis-direct them and speak ill of them to their faces. While most Americans of Asian decent if they were to walk the streets in other countries people think they are born in Asia. They generally do not care if they are born in the USA because they usually show no American influence and never will (different race). This is why Rupert Murdoch is married to a Chinese woman and has a daughter with her. That way his daughter would be mistaken as Chinese not American when they travel to other countries. Most Americans born to immigrant parents/grand parents of Latin American would be mistaken as Europeans and or people from Latin America not Americans when they travel to other countries. Those children/grand children of immigrant are usually the Americans that US companies send abroad for business. American companies cannot sent Americans abroad that people in other countries do not like and do not have the skills to properly present them selves abroad and will be declared Persona non grata (Latin, plural: personae non gratae), literally meaning "an unwelcome person", is a legal term used in diplomacy that indicates a proscription against a person entering the country. It is the most serious form of censure which one country can apply to foreign diplomats, who are otherwise protected by diplomatic immunity from arrest and other normal kinds of prosecution. American (United States) Radio talks show host Tom Leykis he has given up along time ago dating American women who are born in the USA and act like Americans. The women he as stuck that are born in another country (outside the USA) and came to the United States at any age. He also stuck to American women (born in the United States) who have parents/grand parents who came from another country. They are old-fashioned subscribe to culture and costumes of the country where there parents/grand parents are from. American women do not like the competition they get from other countries with increased immigration to the United States. Many foreign women have a very negative opinion of American women.

  118. Mandy

    I had to stop reading the comments on both these articles. All I wanted to say was that I'm in Taiwan, and I feel similarly to how you did in Japan.

  119. Reannon Muth

    @ Many - Yeah...the comments on here are a bit intense. I wish you the best of luck in Taiwan though; if you're anything like me, you'll be glad you toughed it out. I think despite the lack of dating options, living in Asia is totally worth it.

  120. gabriel

    The article is superb. The whole thing is true, and I completely agree with the writer of this. American are the worst, they are self-centered, dishonest, lazy, unloving, shopaholics that cant cook, complain constantly, and never want sex. No amount of words can describe the hate I have for American women. They are looking for muscle bound, perfect looking males, even though they are not that great looking.I date a lot of American women, but its mainly look at them for sex adventure. I would never bring one home for mom. I love Asian women, or Europeans. I especially enjoy the Ukrainians. Ukrainians all dress up, treat there men with respect, and basically honest. American women can all go to hell, and I hope you all die alone and never find love,you deserve everything you get. You can have you women's lib, and look where it got you. May you all stay depressed and alone forever I hate you.

  121. Nadine

    I would really hate to think that all of this is true, but let's suppose - for the sake of argument - that American women are all of the things mentioned above. What you should all be really be asking yourselves is WHY. Have we all forgotten that America has been the battleground for feminist movement(s)? American women live in a very aggressive and hostile environment. And I am sorry but you really can't compare women from one country with women from another country. It's culture and our upbringing that shapes us into the people we are today.

  122. GeishaGroan

    I heard it said that America is for women what Thailand is for men. That in a nutshell is the reality. The only problem with this scenario is that thin Caucasian women (when they are young) are generally 2x as pretty as Asian women and because of this going overseas for a male carries the stigma of being a "loser." (In reality most Asian women are 5-6's with 9's sprinkled here and there) But trust me if there were a Thailand of Caucasians where you can hook up with teenage nymphs left and right then every male on the planet would move there singing its praises. The problem with western society is that young Caucasian women have become waaay too self-aware of their worth. They are valuable and they know it, but it is coupled with an environment where sex is an ever-present destination in their minds. This is the source of all of the snide selfish attitudes. The princess behavior. The paranoia and fear of strange men (because sex is always on the table with women - but only for hot, rich alphas.) The constant appraisal of males and the reckless vanity in which they discard them. The manipulation of the sexual market so that only a few men achieve healthy sex lives while the rest wallow in celibacy. The leveling of the male sex drive to the female pace, rather than the other way - better way - around. This is why most men are bitter, angry and volcanic when it comes to their opinion of the opposite sex. Women are exploiting the short term gains of society to the point where most men are left adrift with nothing of women but their scorn, ridicule and iciness. Men feel cheated because of this. The promise of civilization was to bring the lifestyle of a king to the average male. A king's diet. A king's dwellings. A kings health. And most important of all - A king's harem. A steady supply of sex from a variety of young, thin, women was the promise of a modern world. Realizing the last part of the dream was all-consuming for men. However along the way civilization went from making the average man into a king, into turning the average woman into a queen, which is a bastardization of the process. I blame part of this on the American obsession with modesty, equality and sexual paranoia which in essence paved the way for women to self-regulate themselves. Which only put a laser focus on men with hot bods, and ignored productiveness as a sexual attribute. Eventually the term slut only applied to a girl who dated down, and instinctually women see the majority of men as "down." The second reason why American society back lashed against males is because of multi-culturalism. The 60's civil rights act essentially, in the minds of whites, gave free purchase for ethnic types to interweave themselves into white hierarchies and specifically created a threat against those who wanted to protect their pretty daughters from them. With black, hispanic and asian men suddenly a part of the sexual revolution white guys found that these minorities, in their minds, went in active pursuit for white women. When that happened white guys realized that the pressure placed on women to date anyone with a job, that is to date down, suddenly also meant that any minority with a job would have a better chance at gaining a white chick. So a way to keep them out of their hands was to give white chicks jobs too. Keep women busy and give them a message to "aim higher." But this also meant that they would demand university education. Now this was not some sort of orchestrated conspiracy, simply the trends told the whites to make college a "status symbol" to protect their kids from a bad reputation i.e. black guys. This is the source of (white) women's endless need to achieve in puffy subjects at universities. It keeps them dog paddling above the depths of the ghetto. See if white chicks were underemployed and had no credentials they'd be at the mercy of the offerings of your random african american supermarket manager. Taboo is strong in America, but enough money can compensate. Employers a little later found out that customers preferred females in retail and began to seek them for hire which is why women are preferred for entry level positions. Now every family seems to be sending their daughter to college in search of that elusive sexy playboy/doctor/lawyer/gardener son-in-law. Pretty soon women started to incorporate the concept of a degree as part of their natural obsession with aristocracy and "worthiness" and of course whiteness. However white guys are discovering a huge drawback to this circumstance. The women started to demand more. The privileges given to white girls meant as tools to avoid interracial pairings overcharged the female's status-seeking drives. Now even non-premium white chicks, the fatties and forty-somethings, are able to demand relationships from desperate normal weight men. Men are now forced to enhance every part of themselves to compensate for the randomness of female selectivity. Lots of men are getting burned out and bitter: video gamers, stoners, porn addicts etc. when all they want is a normal weight harem like Johnny McStud. Even the value of money is deflating; allowing young women (as opposed to old women who actually need money) to achieve livable wages devalues the money supply because men have to earn more dollars in order to get sex. Now beta nerds are getting the same amount of action from white chicks as their smelly, ugly thuggish black counterparts... that is almost none at all. With the freedoms brought by contemporary society women are no longer stifled by shame or economic factors to have to do any dreadful settling for a male. This keeps a pool of men outside of the dating spheres by fickle (white) women who engage them randomly. But the solution to this dilemma is just as horrifying for the average white guy. If they force white women to lower standards again in this environment, and it can be done, they would be forced to share them with black, hispanic and asian men. The lesser of two evils is at hand. The cultural emphasis on "high status men" (the media which endorses white athletic vampires) is echoing at a zenith. To this day you will find online dating sites featuring supposedly liberal, educated women of all ages, who on paper say they're open to other cultures, with a pronounced emphasis for a hot, rich white guy. Pakistani millionaire need not apply. Even the author of this blog admitted that she believed the Asian men were inferior to her, and that this was part of the reason why she was so depressed. She also despised the Americans in her group who didn't live up to her ideal. She specifically said that she was looking for an expatriate male that fit her standards (read: white surfer guy) , rather than the paunchy guys that were in her vicinity. Then there was that backhanded rationalization that the Asian guys she found interesting were too meek or scared to talk to her? Uh what? In most instances girls approach the guys they are really into. The situation where the male has to do all of the approaching is experienced by beta men who are not attractive enough to have the women come to them. Trust me Alpha guys in America don't understand the plight of their less dazzling counterparts. They, and women in general cannot fathom how it is hard to go without companionship for years simply because they never face scarcity of attention like most guys. If this author really wanted the Asian men she felt met her aesthetic demands she would have enticed them, just like she and her ilk do in America to "hot guys" they like. Make no mistake women in America are no longer passive recipients, they have become experts at plucking out the men they consider the attractive diamonds leaving the remaining men to ogle the lucky star with burning envy. If you look at the best Internet porn, that is what men really want. Young, thin, white or near white women willing to supplicate to the men's demands. Any man. Be they fat, shrimpy, short, black, asian or bald. This is the primary goal of the men. What's keeping them from banning together and getting it from females is their inherent jealousy and premiums they put on the best females. Guys don't like to share, yet in their fantasies they basically do. If that can be resolved, if fathers would willingly offer their daughters as payment into the sex rings, life would become much easier for both men and women. Men would get sex, women would avoid spinsterhood as their self-destructive status games would be shattered. The reason why I mention this is because this is the ultimate fear of many Western Caucasian women. That they would lose their power to filter men and end up the sexual depository of every male, rather than gain the attention of the few hot ones they like. That is why they really hate porn, because it represents control by the male and erosion of the female's control over the sexual bargaining table. How can you bargain for the attention of one muscular rich guy when your reputation is drowned out in a sea of cooze? If the fantasy sex movies become an everyday reality this will ultimately unlock the attractive women for the masses. What will be destroyed are the icy igloos attractive women have constructed for themselves all over this country. But in order to get it men have to share. Pick your poison.

  123. Vivaldi

    Of course, nothing but denial and ignorance presented by the status quo. American females are that bad. Instead of rallying your straw men, try and have a good look at the issues being addressed. I wouldn't ask these women a question, not due to rejection, but the pissy responses you are bound to get. Does this mean I can't get the time of day from a woman? Sure. But, it could also mean that they aren't worth my frustration in the first place. Judgmental? Fucking aye. Right back at them. They judge the entirety of a man in a matter of seconds, entirely from visual cues, no thought paid to the intellectual aspects of a male. To hell with them. I don't even consider them human. I never look them in the eye. Not out of intimidation, no. They don't have any control over me. Nor can they threaten me in any way. I refuse to cast my eyes upon them out of disgust.

  124. Cheese Slot

    GeishaGroan you made some pretty awesome arguments but your conclusion was a little out there. Legalized and regulated prostitution is probably a step in the right direction though.

  125. Lelee

    Not an American here... Wow, how much hate! If American women are that bad, surely American men aren't neither sugar nor the smartest of the bunch. In none of the post from men I've found any willingness to share a civil conversation, pondering each other's arguments with respect. Is American culture as a whole rotten to the bone, maybe? I agree that people living in major cities tend to be more materialistic and image-obsessed. I remember reading about a woman living in a city who had a difficult time dating because every guy was focused on materialistic things. But then, just drive a few miles into the country, and you'll find people - women and men - more down to earth. You don't need to fly to other countries. I agree that in foreign countries your appeal can increase, but that can be because you are perceived as more affluent, or just exotic. And the blogger said it right: above all, to find quality people, look into the right places.

  126. Reannon Muth

    @ Lelee - Good point! It could be a city vs country thing. While I believe there are nice people everywhere, there's probably some truth to the idea that there are a higher percentage of friendly, down-to-earth people in small towns versus big cities. Have you read the book, "Who's your City?" by Richard Florida? He talks about that in his book.

  127. Chris

    I was gonna comment, and then I saw all the comments and just.... dayyyyyymn. But still I have just a little to say on the topic, I think this may be a surprising cross-cultural observation to share. I've spent quite some time abroad (unfortunantely no billion dollar deals for me) and the biggest differentiator among women that I've found is actually their age, more than anything. As women (and men) get older, they definitely mellow out. And I don't even mean generational differences. There is a huge difference between an 18 year old and a 25 year old. For the life of me I have no idea why but younger women are definitely more difficult to handle. By the way, so are younger men, I just never think about them. Anyway I think in the end it is mainly a maturity issue.

  128. Travis

    American women are not all bad but the majority are greedy, selfish, fat, lazy hogs who only care about more money and more sex. I'm sure there must be evil females around the world but I'm just saying that there are good ones. The ones that aren't can't really anyone but themselves. They will do anything to be able to lay around spending up all of your money getting fatter and becoming more of a lying cheating pig. Some men are as bad or worse. Do you think international girls are better?

  129. Denise

    I'm sorry to inform some of you guys that yes...I am American but I am also a teenager who has had the chance to explore different countries. I am not the type of person who thinks of themselves as being more important than anyone else. I also believe that not everyone from a country acts the same. Tiago said "Here in Brazil we view American women as good for sex and bad for love." and most people feel like American women don't know the meaning of love. In some cases it's true. I have plenty of friends who don't know the meaning of love, however I'm not one of them. I feel that when it comes to love it's an equal partnership and I do believe in a long lasting relationship. I am also the type of person who doesn't like the ideas and culture of North America and I do feel that we as Americans take a lot for granted but just because we all live in the same country doesn't mean we are all the same.

  130. Bob

    The only reason why American men date/marry American women is out of sheer ignorance. It just never occurs to most American men, living in the cocoon of American culture, that FAR better options are available. I have never met an American guy, who has dated an Asian or Eastern European lady, and then decided afterward that they prefer Americans. It doesn’t happen, EVER. Getting away from American women is akin to finally waking up from a lifelong nightmare that you didn’t realize you were in. The only hope American women have is that most American men remain insulted and ignorant of the fact that women from anywhere else on Earth are better, in every conceivable way, than their American counterparts.

  131. Gregory

    The answer lies within your society. Take a look at how you view men. Western comedies constantly show men being verbally and physically abused by women, yet we are supposed to find this funny. However, if the roles are reversed, we find it grotesque. Loraina Bobet cut off her husbands penis. Afterwards she was invited on to multiple talk shows where she and the viewers laughed about it. If I were to be abused by my wife and I mutilated her vagina, would I be invited on talk shows where the whole wild wild west would laugh about it? Now lets examine the incarceration rate. Men on average get five times a greater sentence for the same crime committed. For example, the 19 year old NC man who had oral sex with a 16 year old girl and spent 6 years in jail. Meanwhile 30 to 50 year old female teachers sleep with children as young as 12 and get probation/ house arrest to just a couple years in jail. Then lets move on to grants for women in college. For some reason women make up the majority of college students (for the last 14 years), yet still get grants for being a minority. Lets analyze why there are grants for female students entering gender weighted programs. Women get a free ride for entering into science and mathematic degrees, yet no man gets a free ride for entering a female dominated degree, such as nursing, one of the highest paid and largest gender dominant degrees in all of U.S universities. Lets not forget child custody laws, women are more nurturing right? Ha. Lets see how many "dead beat mom's" there would be if the roles were reversed and the government stripped your children away from you all while commanding you to pay child support. Oh and heres the great one, since women never lie and are always victims of physical abuse, when a domestic violence call is made to the police and both man and women have marks of violence, it is automatic procedure to arrest the man. So all those male on female violence statistics are actually biased. Really it should read, "when we couldn't prove who hit who......" Suicides are horrible right. Well, 88% of them are men. Are there government funded men's anti-suicide programs, nope! Womens? You betcha!!! Women have so many health issues right? So why not provide them with government funded women's clinic. However, men on average live 6 years less and suffer from more chronic disease than women. Are there government funded mens clinics? Nope! But now lets take a stroll to the mall.... I would like to find a mens store....Thats weird, consumerism is dominated by women..... 80% of departments stores carry products that cater to women...... Majority of stores cater to women.... women now for the first time dominate men in consumer electronic sales....see what I'm getting at? Society has breed a generation of selfish, spoiled, entitled women and men who are taught to be content with it.

  132. Hanna

    "nursing, one of the highest paid and largest gender dominant degrees in all of U.S universities..." Hahahahaha, wow that's a good joke, that really is a fine joke! Nursing a high paid job?!? Where the FUCK do you live, Mr.? The reason why men do not get as much funding for entering women-dominated degrees is that those are usually departments with little to no funding to give, such as education, humanities, etc. These departments train you for jobs men usually do not want because patriarchy teaches them to go for the high-flying jobs in order to feel "like a man". And educating and nursing are seen as traditionally female jobs due to the age old stereotype of the "mothering, nurturing female." I for one find it insulting to presume that men cannot be nurturing and care for children and sick people, but never mind - that's patriarchy for you! And about the "media is dominated with abusive jokes against men" bullshit: again, where on Earth do you live?! Sexism against women is alive and well in TV shows and comedies, where women have to look like supermodels while men can be grey-haired and have a massive belly, and they still get the girl. And anyway - the reason it is not funny when a man makes a sexist remark is because men STILL get paid better and STILL sit in most positions of power (in the media, for instance), so if they make sexist, abusive remarks it is pretty much just what happens in real life all the time anyway. I advise you to watch the documentary "Miss Representation", but of course you won't, because you don't really care about the real world and the fact that women are still not given the same rights as men worldwide, though thank God it has gotten much better compared to the 50s and 60s. You probably cry your eyes out over the "good old times" when women had zero rights and were forced to be housewives, whether they wanted to or not. Thank God you can still get yourself a mail order bride from Russia (because I presume your "European" women are primarily from the poorer areas of my continent - no French woman would put up with sexist pricks like you, I know that for sure!) who can cook and clean for you! Pfew! Fuuuuuck, I am so glad I am not an American woman, because judging from these comments American guys are sexist pigs with such low self-esteem that they need to yell down a well-articulated woman for expressing an opinion on her OWN BLOG!

  133. Gregory

    Thank you for proving my point Hannah :). Now I am going to demonstrate logic and a factual argument to disprove your over emotional illogical rant. Heres an article on nursing http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44359555/ns/business-careers/t/nursing-tops-list-high-paid-jobs-future/#.T2fKB3jYdFI Heres a link about abuse against men, but hell, what does ABC know. (I really love 2:16!!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/22/oprah-interviews-lorena-b_n_190344.html "Sexism against women is alive and well in TV shows and comedies, where women have to look like supermodels while men can be grey-haired and have a massive belly, and they still get the girl" Your statement makes it evident that your bitterness is truly a product of your loneliness. You obviously only look at the negative and not the positive or you would be plain to see that no, the grey-haired fat man never gets the girl. Men are on the same level of constant pressure to look like hollywood icons but yet there is still a lingering idea that we don't. http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/celebrity/celebrity-galleries/2010/08/50-sexiest-men-2010-results "History Lesson" Again, your last statement was a bunch of incoherent feminist drivel. You bitch and moan about women not being able to work. Get your facts right. Women were allowed to work. After WW2 there was a massive boom in women's employment which coincided with a massive boom in consumer sales, hence the large government funding to feminism. Prior to the 1900's women were still allowed to work, but there were not the type of jobs there are today. This maybe too much for you, but please try to take yourself out of your place and put yourself in anthers shoes back 100+ years ago. Millions of men died doing ordinary daily jobs. We didn't have the luxuries we have today, it was a harsh cruel world where survival of the fittest really meant something. You talk about women not being able to chose to work, yet are so selfish to even ponder the idea about exactly when in history or even today that a man gets the choice not to work. You focus on the men on the top expecting ALL women to be treated as such ignorantly ignoring the fact that most men are on the bottom with women in between. No gender has it perfect, but women are the ones who ignore the negatives of being a man and expect all the positives to be put on a pretty little plate for them. On a final note. I don't want a mail order bride, maid, or a chef. I want a loving women who devotes as much to our children and marriage as I do. Whether it be in the office or at the home is something we deal with as a team. Your insinuation and labeling me a misogynistic attitude is a great example of what many women do when a man talks about the many inequalities against men, you toxic toxic lonely woman.

  134. Jeff

    No, they're not that bad. I honestly don't know what these guys are talking about. American women are great.

  135. Greg

    Thank you for proving my point Hannah :). Now I am going to demonstrate logic and a factual argument to disprove your over emotional illogical rant. Heres an article on nursing http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44359555/ns/business-careers/t/nursing-tops-list-high-paid-jobs-future/#.T2fKB3jYdFI Heres a link about abuse against men, but hell, what does ABC know. (I really love 2:16!!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/22/oprah-interviews-lorena-b_n_190344.html "Sexism against women is alive and well in TV shows and comedies, where women have to look like supermodels while men can be grey-haired and have a massive belly, and they still get the girl" Your statement makes it evident that your bitterness is truly a product of your loneliness. You obviously only look at the negative and not the positive or you would be plain to see that no, the grey-haired fat man never gets the girl. Men are on the same level of constant pressure to look like hollywood icons but yet there is still a lingering idea that we don't. http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/celebrity/celebrity-galleries/2010/08/50-sexiest-men-2010-results "History Lesson" Again, your last statement was a bunch of incoherent feminist drivel. You bitch and moan about women not being able to work. Get your facts right. Women were allowed to work. After WW2 there was a massive boom in women's employment which coincided with a massive boom in consumer sales, hence the large government funding to feminism. Prior to the 1900's women were still allowed to work, but there were not the type of jobs there are today. This maybe too much for you, but please try to take yourself out of your place and put yourself in anthers shoes back 100+ years ago. Millions of men died doing ordinary daily jobs. We didn't have the luxuries we have today, it was a harsh cruel world where survival of the fittest really meant something. You talk about women not being able to chose to work, yet are so selfish to even ponder the idea about exactly when in history or even today that a man gets the choice not to work. You focus on the men on the top expecting ALL women to be treated as such ignorantly ignoring the fact that most men are on the bottom with women in between. No gender has it perfect, but women are the ones who ignore the negatives of being a man and expect all the positives to be put on a pretty little plate for them. On a final note. I don't want a mail order bride, maid, or a chef. I want a loving women who devotes as much to our children and marriage as I do. Whether it be in the office or at the home is something we deal with as a team. Your insinuation and labeling me a misogynistic attitude is a great example of what many women do when a man talks about the many inequalities against men, you toxic toxic lonely woman.

  136. g

    This won't be the first blog that has denied my appropriate responses to other readers who the writer happens to agree with. Keep it up and I will DOS you for months.

  137. Reannon Muth

    @ G - I haven't blocked your responses (at least not that I knew of). If you tried to make a comment and it didn't show up, it might have been filtered out into my 'spam' folder by mistake. My apologies. The only comments I block are ones that are extremely explicit, because this is a PG blog. So feel free to comment away! : )

  138. davy

    Well i must say for years I thought it was just me, now I know im not alone, ! I am from Ireland and have lived in south florida for almost 20 years now , am considered very good looking ,but have always had trouble meeting women here ,I find the women down here to be very unapproachable and stuck up and always are about the money , and If I am lucky enough to get a date , they never offer to pay for anything, even the tip ?! However I have been lucky enough to escape once in a while abroad and when I do , what a difference , women actually smile at me!! look me in the eye, wow, and have date d many of them , i Feel trapped here ! I can only surmise that american women prefer their own kind, most of my expat friends concur on this, most are also single , what is the deal !? Love to hear from american women on this , !?

  139. Reannon Muth

    @ Davy - I don't know the answer to that. I think that Americans in general can be fairly self-involved, especially the younger generations. I think as American women get older, they (hopefully!) mature out of that. I found that I grew out of that stage at around 25...Perhaps women in other countries (who are forced to grow up quicker because of financial reasons or because they marry and have children younger) mature at an earlier age (?).

  140. Bill

    I married my HS GF when I was 21. She was head turning hot but after 2 kids and 10 years I found out she was banging here and there and that was that. I lost everything I had worked for up until that point in my life as well as my two sons who I spend the next decade struggling to be a dad to. Next I married a single mom of a three year old who was also quite attractive, thinking I might find more loyalty by taking on baggage. Wrong again. This woman also turned into a chronic slut once her life was comfortable. She finally left for good with her "soul mate" when our son together was 16. At 47 I found myself living in a new world. I questioned what my part was in my previous failures and realized it wasn't me at all. It was these women expecting each day to be a new chapter in a romance novel. Totally lacking any understanding of what love and commitment is. The reason I mentioned that both of my wives were attractive is so when I tell the next chapter of my life I don't get the "old, fat. mail order bride loser" spiel. I could have very easily found yet another American princess as I have plenty to offer but this time I decided to look further. I ended up marrying a beautiful college educated Filipino 20 years younger than I but with a moral outlook equivalent to my own mother's. We have been married 5 years now and have a beautiful daughter. She is realistic, honest, smart and moral. All I can say is you don't know what you don't know until you know better. Are all American women useless? Of course not. Are the vast majority of the available ones useless? Yes, I'm afraid so.

  141. RestoftheWorld

    There's nothing wrong with American women that not being American wouldn't cure.

  142. white guy

    At his point men who don't prefer Asian women to western women are basically homosexuals. Yes, we want submissive family oriented women as wives. I understand that you want to be something else. That is why we ignore you in lieu of women that provide what we want.

  143. Veep

    E V E R Y W O M A N I S B E A U T I F U L

  144. Veep

    American women have incredible personalities and make great mothers. I was raised by a single mother, she is decent and mentally tough.

  145. Jeanette

    I agree that at least 75% of American women fit that bi ugly mold. While I am not against feminism, or women's rights...the views of many are focused on money, popularity and fitting cultural norms. Women are more concerned with cracking a whip at their man to make sure they never have to get their hands dirth, and if price charming fails to give her a castle, a maid, a personal chef and wash her car while she's in her fake tan appointment, she will cry foul and will try to take everything he has, using their children as leverage. I am an American woman and am sick of good guys fearing me because they have been conditioned by so many sociopaths out there. Not all think that Mc Donalds is a great alternative to cooking, or throw a fit if you make a mess because we will clean it...we will even do your laundry and care for you when you're sick, travel with you, have witty intelligent conversations with meaning and laugh at your jokes. Yes, there are some of us left that value a good man and will do out part to have an equally equitable relationship...but unfortunately, there are more lazy, spoiled, lying, cheating, opportunistic, materialistic bottom feeders out there than ever before!!

  146. Bill

    @veep None of the characteristics you mention are relevent to this discussion.

  147. Bill

    And Ironically, the fact that you think that stuff is relevent illustrates the entire point nicely of how out of touch American women are with what is important to a husband.

  148. Veep

    ....was I talking to you? @Bill You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how insulting it may be, even though it's already been stated multiple times by other people, it's always the same thing. I'm also entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is: You make American men look childish and whiny, it's an embarrassment, REALLY. I don't know any men who are like the ones who comment here. @Bill Dude, you married a woman who's 20 years younger than you, I don't know what to say about that. Maybe you should have looked for a woman with a better personality, all three of your wives were attractive, by your standards, something tells me that is why your marriages failed. If you're happily married now then why are you complaining?

  149. Veep

    S T O P W H I N I N G !

  150. Bill

    Commenting is not complaining. You do know plenty of men who are like the ones who comment here. They just don't tell you about it because you represent exactly what they aren't looking for but that doesn't make you a bad person so there's no reason for hurt feelings or confrontation. I have four sisters just like you. Here on the internet things are more forthright however.

  151. Matt

    Men who look for wives in Asia are not losers. I started looking for a wive in Asia after being repeatedly mistreated in relationship after relationship. My partners were so selfish that I could never break through to them. I was literally expected to be a servant, and what was always unsaid, was this, "I am a woman and if you don't obey me I will take my p****y to some other man who will." Not only this but so many of the women I dated had no morals at all. They'd f***k other women, wanted to have bizarre sex, steal and cheat if permitted. The reality is that American women have been corrupted by the workplace, and instead of developing nurturing child rearing skills, they frown on motherhood and men in general. They've been taught to hate men, to treat them as inferior... and the thing that is most unique about American women is they like bad boys. Men who are criminals, abusive, sexual predators, covered in tattoos. They are by and large attracted to this. I want to be treated nicely and I want to be a nice guy and not be stereotyped as a inferior. I want to read books and work on important projects without being viewed as undesirable because I'm smart. Asian women are not the same way. They value being treated well by a nice man. They go to church. They want to raise the children and let the man do the work. They are nice to their men. They are faithful to their men. They express their feelings and fondness for their men. They are not morally and sexually corrupt. They are not self-centered and demanding pre-madonnas. The way I am treated by Asian women is so different than the way I was treated by American women. I am now for the first time in my life in a very happy relationship. I am happy and she is happy. That's why American men go overseas for wives.

  152. Matt

    Jeanette - If the women here were like you, the good men wouldn't be marrying foreign wives. You are the exception to the rule and I hope you find a real nice guy.

  153. Matt

    Denise - You are right of course. But you are an exception to the rule.

  154. Hanna

    Dear Gregory, and that you for proving MY point! It is so adorable how you put together this long-winded response - "sad and lonely", huh? Well, I for one don't have the time nor need to search the internet for mostly irrelevant, unscientific sources to "prove my point." And yes, well, of COURSE abc is the best, scientifically most sound source out there! I bow to your research skills, and of course you have completely convinced me. How could I argue against the wisdom of abc and that lovely Oprah show link you used (even though I didn't bother reading it, forgive me). Please do watch Miss Representation, it might open your eyes just a tad. Chances are though, that it won't. Too bad, but then luckily there are many wonderful men out there who are open-minded and not afraid of a woman with an opinion. I would write more but I am meeting some friends now, eating a cake I have baked. That's right, I bake and cook, GASP. Some Femnazis do, you see, and some even have kids and raise them happily together with their partner. I know, I know, this will probably make your brain explode. Sorry for destroying your stereotypes.

  155. Bill

    Here is one of the more articulate blogs I have read on the subject. The author I understand married an asian woman a while after writing this. http://www.the-niceguy.com/articles/MarryAmerican.html

  156. Dante

    Well I can say from personal experience that american woman (at least the ones I've met were rather unpleasant) but it may be due to the fact that they were making assumptions about me because I'm from the Caribbean but they made very rude comments and were all around less pleasant than woman i have met either in Europe or any of the other Caribbean countries that I have visited

  157. Jackie

    If you want to see how bad north american women are --come sit in a divorce court. I've worked for years there and though it troubles me to admit it I have to say american women are by far the nastiest creatures I come across in my work. half the time they just want the kids to hurt the husband and the other have they want the money to hurt him and don't at least pretend to care about the kids. Unless women in this country stop drinking of the poison well that is man hating feminism (no Im not talking about equal rights feminism of course) they better start learning to enjoy their cats . I see alot of women with cats. lots and lots of cats.

  158. Bob

    I feel really sorry for American men having to put up with such self centred foul mouthed women.

  159. Scorpio

    I came across this site accidentally and have found most of the comments enlightening, some are just trash spewing about trash. I can understand the appeal of foreign women vs American. In America there is a lot of pressure on women to perform successfully in the work place, as mothers, as wives, as lovers, as a social figure, as being Barbie. Who can be all that? Try doing it. It's an extremely hard balancing act. My American mother raised me to believe that I HAVE to look out for myself, have to depend on only me. My American father was hardly present and when he was it was unpleasant. StatisticallIy 1 out 4 American girls have been sexually abused before adulthood. More women are the bread winners here, more are college graduates. And a lot of these women do feel entitled because of it. We need a comforting partner too. Those aren't easy to find for us either. American men are partially to blame as well. There is the trillion dollar porn industry (yes, guys that matters, it does effect how you treat women), sexual and physical abuse is rampant (hence women and their oft broken "creep radar"), and we are not as well represented politically compared the other (even third world) countries. So when a women comes home after logging in her 8 + hours (because two income are usually required to maintain a lifestyle out of poverty here) just to press you undies, mop the floor, and make you a to die for rotolli dinner, don't expect her to be pleased, happy, and well adjusted. How many guys out there would give this girl a back rub and tell her how wonderful she is? Or would that be emasculating? The American women has been prepared since birth to accomplish what is expected of both genders. Not a lot of people can do that, and most don't After reading the posts here I applaud our American women. Most don't understand us and that's ok, because they wouldn't know how to hang with us anyway. Oh, and fellows, your aren't the only ones that find the opposite gender at home are unsuitable. My Italian husband and I have been married almost two decades, have two smart, handsome sons, and are living the white picket fence American dream. It would take a crow bar and some serious dynamite to tear us apart. He is the type of guy that gives footrubs and a lot of loving to his bread winning American wife. And, yeah, I iron his undies if he asks politely.

  160. Bill

    Scorpio: "breadwinner" women will always have success finding men. The men who don't need to have a breadwinning women in order to eat are rejecting your type in ever increasing numbers though. It's attitudes like "they wouldn't know how to hang with us anyway" and blaming the porn industry for your "there's a molester behind every bush" mentality. The only pressure for you to perform in the workplace comes from your training from birth that there is no dignity in being a mother and wife or the traditional family. You don't know what you don't know until you know better, and faced with modern feminism lots more American men are knowing way better these days. The internet has changed our options and there's no going back.

  161. Xavier

    Wow, sorry to hear you are getting so much flack from American men, Rheannon. I guess you won't mind dating Asian guys then - since many are said to be hardworking and educated? Or is it some of what is written her shorthand for saying "White guys dating Asian girls are losers" and "Asian men are no good since I consider Asia a desert for relationships as a White woman". You know what, to sum up for me it sounds like you hate both genders of Asian. which means you may be a racist. I'd love to know different, thanks.

  162. Mike

    Just one small observation. American women constitute around 5% of the women on earth. It's pretty insightful to realize that this 5% is nearly universally convinced of their superiority over the 95 left. This is revealed by the all too predictable comments, loaded with contempt, explaining that Asian women are meek and subservient, fit for little more than housework and cowering in fear. Russian women are cast as nothing but pouting sexpots, fleeing in desperation from poverty. It is also revealed when we are told that men who enjoy their newfound happiness are "losers" who "can't get laid" and "don't deserve" to have an American woman who demographically should be their peer. My experience has been different. It would be a little long to explain the individual anecdotes, but I met a Russian woman while she was visiting America for 6 weeks. We stayed in touch, and I got to know her well. It has truly been as one poster put it, "like waking up from a nightmare i didn't know i was in". I have experienced small kindnesses from her, that have caught me so off guard, that it literally caused me to supress getting choked up. Eventually I visited much of eastern Europe, Ukraine, and Russia. What an eye opener. Imagine seeing an attractive woman on the street, and you are looking at her when she is busy with something, not noticing you. (the way all human beings do) So a few times, it eventually happens, i get been busted as the woman looks up and sees me checking her out. Instantly the American man in me is filled with dread. But before i an sputter an apology, the disgusted sneer, rolling eyes, or cutting remark never comes. I have been stunned to *always* get a kind smile or a wink. This is when i realized that my initial reaction was like that of an abused child, or a beaten dog. It is amazing to travel and to finally understand that American men are generally abused, and psychologically traumatized. Experience this a while, then encounter an ex-pat American female. I know they don't mean to do it deliberately, but within minutes, you remember their mindset, selfishness. and lack of the slightest desire to do anything to appeal to a man. While nobody wants someone dancing like a monkey on a stick to impress them, how do you think it feels when someone holds it as a virtue that they are unwilling on PRINCIPLE to do anything that might attract you? If someone avoids doing even the smallest actions to please a man, *precisely because* they know the male might find it attractive, thats got to be freakin' pathological. Would you want to share life with such a person? If someone avoids effort during courtship, god only knows what it will be like 10 years later. Look at any dating website here, and in short order, you will find numerous women who brag about being "opinionated", "not taking crap", "not changing for a man" etc. It's heartbreaking to read. The fact remains, that the 95% pretty much agrees that American men are by far, the most loving, caring, devoted husbands on the planet. They are almost devoid of the virulent misogynistic mentality of men usually found in the old country. Websites abound to connect the 95% with American men. I have never heard of one where foreign men are seeking American women. If the old saw about foreign women coldly using American men simply to come to America were true, wouldn't it stand to reason that foreign men would do the same thing?? It's a total disconnect. Anyway, people can think whatever they want, because i took the red pill. If American women are certain that they are perfect exactly the way they are, and are unwilling to compromise whatsoever, fine. Then i will accept and agree. There is nothing wrong with them, and i will not try to change them. I will simply accept that its a matter of square pegs in round holes. Maybe im a square peg, and i'll just go to the women that seem to appreciate me on an existential level, just as i am. After all, isn't that what i am told i must do vis-a-vis American women? Maybe im explaining it poorly, but _surely_ something has gone terribly wrong here when large numbers of men agree that American women are fitting the cruel stereotype.

  163. Mike

    And a final thought. When this topic comes up, some American woman sincerely tell me ALL of them are not radical with the rigid commissar mentality. Some are loving kind humans who would love to reap the rewards of making one man feel special. These American women are saddened at the "Real Cancun" and "Girls gone Wild" culture. They wish their home shared the Russian mentality which holds shows like "The Bachelor", "The Kardashians", and "Temptation Island" as live televised prostitution. These tender women are correct. Good women are found here. But they are becoming exceeding rare and must endure the scorn of their radical feminist sisters. If someone told me there was a 5 carat diamond in s dumptruck load of manure,, there comes a point that it is simply too tiresome to find that diamond in the dunghill. Especially when there is a diamond mine one airline flight away. For men who raise daughters, it's sad to see the way that our society has deeply damaged their chances of finding the love their grandparents knew. A final thought,, this degrading of American women who came out of college since about 1990 has had an even worse effect on the young men of the same age. They are some of the crudest men i have ever seen. A recent example was found at some Ivy Leave imbicile factory. A large group of frat "men" stood outside a womens dorm chanting "no means yes,, yes means anal". As a man who isnt that old, (i graduated in the 70s,), that is so barbaric i cannot find words to express it. College age men,,standing there chanting their desire for such a thing, utterly defies comprehension. Such a thing would not have occurred when i was in college, **because it would have been repellent** to the women. So yes, that the men act this way also suggests something has gone terribly wrong here. I still feel that decent men who value their happiness, should look abroad, and i am nearly at a loss as to what to advise the decent American women to do, except to sincerely wish them well in their search for a decent partner. I wish you weren't so rare and hard to find. Ultimately, the good women here will have to start having the tough talks with their local sisters about how they are destroying a lot of happiness with the values they were taught in the last 20 years. There probably is no answer except a long slow battle. (ironically,,the same way we got to this sorry state in the first place)

  164. Reannon Muth

    @ Xavier - No, I'm not a racist. I grew up in Hawaii (one of the most ethnically-diverse places in the world) and was raised by open-minded parents (my mom was raised by an African-American family and thus, my own "grandparents" were black), which I think helped. And I don't dislike Asian men, I've even dated a few! : ) I like to think that I'm like most of my generation in that I'm beyond skin color. I'll date any person, so long as they're nice, smart and we have things in common. Race and nationality honestly aren't a factor.

  165. Reannon Muth

    @ Chris - Just saw your comment: "The biggest differentiator among women that I’ve found is actually their age, more than anything. As women (and men) get older, they definitely mellow out. And I don’t even mean generational differences. There is a huge difference between an 18 year old and a 25 year old. For the life of me I have no idea why but younger women are definitely more difficult to handle. By the way, so are younger men, I just never think about them. Anyway I think in the end it is mainly a maturity issue." Good point! As someone who has taught teenagers and college students from a number of countries (both male and female), I can definitely agree with you on that point.

  166. Xavier

    Given what you've said previously you might want to consider coming over to Asia then. Reason being Asian men are getting tired of the "me man mountain patriarch, make all money and all decisions and take all responsibility all time!". An equal relationship is very necessary nowadays - since the person who makes all the money is either: 1. going to be in demand by others, thus you can be replaced 2. doesn't want to make a bad investment in you, thus you can be replaced 3. can be blackmailed or threatened, thus you can be replaced See how that doesn't work? When both partners contribute to a marriage or relationship: MEANS THEY VALUE EACH OTHER. and I'm not talking money either. To see the demographic disasters in Asia, look at China, Singapore, South Korea, Japan. The women are considered hugely entitled by the Asian men ... yet so very nice by the expats. Why? Maybe you can come up with some ideas. Perhaps the lack of success expat women have with relationships in Asia is because they are looking for the same among the kind of guys who receive plenty of attention and no drama from women who "knows he can leave, is a ticket to a better life for me and is seen as socially superior + paid more too, so I better be nice to him". Go where you're wanted, it's safe to say that if Asian societies truly thought of women as completely incapable, why do so many of them have women leaders? P.S. When's the first female American president coming along? P.P.S. Asian men hate entitled women, coming from the idea that by virtue of existing a man must buy her things and be at her beck and call. I am pretty sure that women (and if you can put yourself in the shoes of your grandmother or female relative who has a son) ... you will not disagree - it shows no love when someone takes from you but never gives anything back.

  167. Bill

    Xavier, No worries here in America. You'll get your half or more whether you contribute to the relationship financially or in any other way. Screw your hubbies best friend and his uncle? Sleep till noon every day while the babies fester in their own waste? Watch Oprah all day while the sink is full of dirty dishes? No worries at all!! When the fool signs his name on the marriage contract next to yours it's a done deal. He owes you now. You can be replaced, but it's expensive as hell!! Divorce lawyers thank god every day that it's worth it though.

  168. Jackie

    Well all I can say is American women are raised by women AND men, and if you find the younger generation of American women to be so awful then surely half of the blame lies with American men! However I would never be so ignorant as to write off half of the population of a country. I am a college educated, happily married woman who exists in a marriage that is a 50/50 partnership! We both work, we both cook, we both clean, and see each other as equals. I know that is a crazy concept...Good women AND good men Do exist in the U.S. I personally know quite a few. These days women are expected to do it all, make your own money, take care of your man like you are his mother, raise his children, bend to his every sexual desire, oh and those 6 hours that you were using to sleep, better shave a couple of those off to hit the gym, right? Can't be gaining any weight now can we? I find it ironic that several of the guys on here complain about American women being overweight, what about the men? This country is something like 65% overweight and believe me guys its not just us women. Anyways, just wanted to say from where I'm standing the situation isn't as dire as its been painted here in these comments. I have close friends male and female who have found themselves someone to share their lives with. If only men and women could lose the chips on their shoulders about the opposite sex and just see them for the people they are, I think everyone could find love, and passion and respect.

  169. Paul

    Very active blog, although the responses tend to repeat themselves. I am a guy, and I think that there are many reasons for both sides to be bitter. What we all need to understand (in my opinion) is that this has little to do with the emotions on the surface, but the infrastructure. If you don't understand biology, or believe it is voodoo, then stop reading now. Cavemen had real power by there being no rule other than thier ability to smash something, women really had little openly expressed power (as shown by thousands of years of male oppression). Now, the balance of power is being shifted mostly in the favor of Western Women (if it wasn't then this blog would not exist). What we are experiencing now is simply confusion over who gets to lead in a family unit. Just as everyone in the military can't be a four star general, there are some family topics that can't be compromised, which requires someone to give up thier preferred choice for the relationship to have harmony. Western society is really experiencing this in full force by the number of educated higher paid women being greater than it's corresponding population of men, but really the world is experiencing the shift for the first time: a society of women stronger than men. Yes, we have not had two female presidents in a row, but I believe it is because we are seeing the bulk of the shift in women who haven't yet taken control, via their degrees they've only recently attained. Rest assured there will be a time soon where there will be a higher percentage of women hiring, promoting, and firing men than vice versa. There is no real right or wrong, just the evidence, and a fair guess of where we are headed based on that evidence. What this blog shows is that although this shift in Western Society is still relatively early (fem movement is mostly a US thing), the old way still exists in almost every country outside the US. The jealous death spasms of the American male, who used to have the majority of power, is simply being harmonized by the juvenile power-drunk Western female; resulting in yet another generation of our once great country being focused on ignoring its children, supposedly in exchange for being "happy." One of the reasons I've decided to not have children is because of the immaturity being displayed by everyone involved. Why would anyone want their children to have to deal with the kids raised by this bickering idiot majority? All I know is that our foundation will always be our progeny. This foundation is also what the new Western Society is going to base its future (and the future of feminism) on. Combine this with a family unit that puts its personal gratification ahead of its children, and the result is a culture that essentially erodes its core over time until there is nothing left; nothing but degrees, money, empty homes, and empty streets...

  170. Delta

    can you take the wood background off, cant read the screen properly. Thanks.

  171. Shadow19

    Reannon - I'd have to disagree with you. I would say that you ARE indeed a racist. From the simple comment you made about how only loser men date Asian women. You being a woman saying that makes you not only racist but completely negates any type of self respect, or feminist agenda or ideal you uphold or hold dear to you. The problem I've found with many white American women is that whenever the idea or topic of a white man dating an Asian woman pops up. The topic at hand instantly swerves into disturbing snide comments laced and dripping with disgusting amounts of racism. I hope you do realize and recognize that Asian women are HUMAN like you as well. To state that only men who in your eyes are barely even deemed fit as being people, only date and end up with Asian woman says quite a lot about your views on other races. There's nothing you can say to deny that your comment WASN'T racist. It's terrible to demean the value of another human being, just because that woman happens to be of a different race and is married to a white man.You say that you're past color, but specifically target Asian woman as being so pathetic and useless that they would be the only ones who'd take all the reject white men. What a disturbing blanket generalization and sad way to view your own fellow humans as. Unfortunately I've met too many white women like you throughout my lifetime. I'm currently engaged to an Asian woman right now. And no I'm not some fat disgusting 57 year old tub of lard. I'm 23, my fiance happens to be my high school sweetheart, whom I dated for 4 years before popping the question. And throughout the entire time I've dated my girlfriend I've had to face numerous verbal assaults of racism from none other then white women when they find out that she is not of pure Aryan superiority heritage. It's disturbing and sad really. Most of my white female friends sneer and laugh at the thought of me being engaged to the woman I love purely because of her race. And my own mother despises me and my choice because she doesn't want ugly half breed grand children - which sadly are her own words. Like you my mother thinks I'm a loser for DARING to fall in love with someone who is of a different ethnicity. My sister thinks it's disgusting. As do my white female cousins, friends etc. And most of this is all based on jealously and pure racism. Nothing more.

  172. Reannon Muth

    @ Shadow - I'm confused. I just re-read all of my comments and my blog post and didn't see anywhere where I wrote "Only loser men date Asians." Where did you get that from? Please let me know! Maybe there is someone who's posing as me and posting comments somewhere? I hope not... Anyway, I definitely don't think that. As someone who's dated Asians before, it would make me a little hypocritical to say that, wouldn't it? If I believed that only losers dated Asians than that would make me a loser as well. And THAT'S definitely not true. ; )

  173. LR

    Even so, American bad girls face domestic violence, not only from American partners but from partners from abroad as well because they are know to discipline bad girls. So you American women ought to be careful when dating foreign men, if you behave badly around them, they can kill you.

  174. Barack YoMama

    Yes...they are generally THAT bad. I will never go back to them myself.

  175. Anonymous

    Difference between family life, The United States & Europe. Most children in western Europe & Latin America are still raised in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s. In most countries in western European countries (example Belgium, Italy, Sweden) most mothers want their children to have a very good relationship with their father (respects fathers parental rights) and do not care about child support or money. This is the only reason why Tiger Woods married a Swedish woman not an American woman. Tiger Wood children are raised as Swedish expatriate children, because that way they have the skills to survive in Sweden and not be labeled as Americans. This is the only reason why eastern European women have told me a European man why I should only marry a European women and stay away from American women. This is how most Europeans raise their American children. This is the only reason why Tiger Woods intentionally married a Swedish woman and stayed away from American women. Elin Nordegren the Swedish ex-wife of Tiger Woods got a $110 million settlement for doing just that plus an indeterminate amount of child support. Elin Nordegren wanted enough money to not change her luxurious lifestyle, but she didn’t try to take him for every penny that she could. Elin wants to get on with her life. The reason why Elin Nordegren divorced Tiger Woods is because he was involved in a sex scandal in which he had sex with many different women. This is also the only reason why American actor Johnny Depp’s has two children with a French woman Vanessa Paradis. Most Europeans can properly present them selves abroad for the same reason diplomats from their country can. This is because Europeans are raised different than most Americans. The majority of American women hate man, and 80 percent do not understand the concept of family, and try and drive the father out of their children’s lives because that is the only way they can get child support. They try and get every singe dime out child support of the father and use 9/10 percent of that them self’s. They treat their husband (and or ex-husband) like crap and man have to work as slaves to financially there ex with alimony and child support. Fathers could go to jail for quitting a job, or have a drop in income in the United States. You have the same problem in Australia, Britain, Canada and New Zeeland. Those countries copied the same child support system, as the United States but the United States is the worst in the world with this. According to the Italian's (I asked them) ninety percent of American women are a piece of crap because they cannot properly present them selves abroad and are unfit mothers because they will not raise children properly under Italian standards. American women who are US Diplomats that work for the US State Department can properly present them selves abroad and are good mothers and are raised properly under Italian standards. Ninety percent of this can only be learned in the home & ten percent is learned in School. This is because of the unique nature of American culture and lifestyle that makes American women different than women from the rest of the world. American women I am ashamed to watch American tourists in Europe and especially and often the women are the worst. They are loud and demanding and totally unaware of the fact that they are a guest in our country. They expect service immediately as they were used to in the states and they are often ill mannered and ungrateful when they get it. Americans are hated all over the world because some Americans can be extremely arrogant and disrespectful towards anyone not American. It is all ignorance, most Americans have no understanding of what is beyond U.S. borders nor do they make any effort to understand, they just stick to their self-centered and warped sense of superiority. Second, and most important, you can never trust any type of politician -- for any reason. And that might hold true for any corporate businessman because their only concern is to make as much money as possible without caring how it is obtained. The real subject of this is how the family life shapes children to become either "the embarrassment of the United States of America by their ignorant citizens traveling and living abroad" or how a good upbringing can help to create a more self-controlled and educated individual that would be considered by all to be an American to look up to. As an ex-patriot, I can attest to these facts. The difference between the US and Europe is the way that womens rights have developed over the past 50 years and the decisions that were made to do that. In the US women saw men as having more rights and decided that they wanted to be more like men. In Europe women simply wanted to have the same rights and opportunities as men but did so without trying to take on masculine traits. This is why European women retain their femininity whereas American women see femininity as being from an era when they were treated as second-class citizens. Hence, when I am at a business lunch its always a women that screams ' I am paying' and when I do sports its always a woman who is shouting the loudest. They view aggressiveness and what they perceive as manly characteristics as a route to equality for women. In Europe these things (femininity and rights) are more separated. Basically the issue in he US is that women are willfully taking on the negative aspects of men as they see it as a route to equality, and men don't like it. Men are in the position that if they advise a woman on her masculine characteristics that he is then attacking her rights. A possible side effect from a capitalistic economy such as the United States, the child support system has become a good source of revenue for civil courts, attorneys and parents. It has been argued that United States Child Support laws encourage parents into a legal "tug-of-war" which results in a severe loss of time and income first from both parents (such as legal fees, court costs, and time off work), and finally to the parent who loses in court (typically the father). The premise of the law is to protect the children. In actuality, it is argued, the children are hurt the most by the system due to the alienation of the non-custodial parent. It has been recognized by various government committees that parents are alienating each other both from themselves and from their children. Non-custodial parents feel they are nothing more than a bank account to the family and can get pushed out due to increased hours at work or having to accept a second job to pay support money. This leaves little or no time for the non-custodial parent to focus on time spent with the children. Attorneys and judges may not want to forfeit the revenues from such a lucrative "business" and there is a pejorative label given to non-custodial parents who resist the child support. They're labeled as "dead beat dads". Trends from within the United States today are pushing for an adjusted system. Many groups are demanding a more hands-off approach where government does not micromanage the family. These trends may encourage change in local and Federal laws. Arnold Schwarzenegger American wife and American children has the skills to live and work in Austria as easily as their father and US diplomats who work for the US state department that are stationed in Austria and can be equally be trusted. This is something that can only be learned at home not in school and are still raised in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s. His children have visited Austria with their father. His wife is divorcing him because he was involved in affair and has been paying him child support payment before they officially filed for divorce. Arnold Schwarzenegger was born in Austria and immigrated to the United States and became a naturalized US citizen and to this day has duel citizenship (nationality) of Austria and the United States. It would be an embarrassment to Austria if they do not. This is also the case with Belgium citizen actor Jean-Claude Van Damme, Spanish actor Antonio Banderas and most European man. This would also be the same for Australian media tycoon Rupert Murdoch who is the owner of News Corp. Michael Jackson raised his children that way until the day he died as a single father because he was the custodial parent. A single father can do this as easily as a mother. Jackson's then-11-year-old daughter, Paris Katherine, tearfully told the crowd at the Michael Jackson memorial service shortly after his death “Ever since I was born, Daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine ... I just wanted to say I love him so much." She is raised properly under European standards. You can tell that by taking a look at her pictures at Michael Jackson's daughter Paris finally has some 'girl time' at the mall. So Michael Jackson was a good father but Debbie Rowe but got millions of dollars for giving Michael Jackson & later Katherine Jackson custody of her children. It would also be very embarrassing for politicians like George W. Bush (43rd U.S. president) and wealthy Americans like Bill gates that his wife and daughter & son are not raised the same way as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama and can not properly present them selves abroad for the same reason US diplomats who work for the State Department and do not comply with the official Euro requirement. This would be the same for the Jackson family if Michael Jackson's children were not raised that way. The Tiger Woods and Arnold Schwarzenegger divorces are also very civil and are with mutual consent and involved a parenting plan that both parents are satisfied with that is rubberstamped with by family court. There ex wives also respect there ex husband’s parental rights in a civil and professional/diplomatic manner and their ex-husband pay child support in an agreement that they are satisfied with. It is very socially unacceptable in such a high-class society if they have a nasty child custody dispute and fight over child support in family court in the United States. The majority (seventy five percent) of American mothers tries and drives the father out of their children’s lives because that is the only way they can get child support. They try and get every single dime out child support of the father. They treat their husband (and or ex-husband) like crap. This is American culture. Lawyer’s advice man that if you do not want to deal with such a ugly divorce than you should never marry those American women and stay single for the rest of your live. Many American women know that this is the only reason they can’t find a husband because more American man listen to there lawyers. This is why it is rare to find European man and most realty foreign man to marry an American woman. Those same American women would lose custody of there children in the legal system of Belgium and most western European countries example Germany, Italy, Sweden along with Japan and in many Muslim (Middle East) countries because they are unfit mothers if they tried this in Europe Japan and in many Muslim (Middle East) countries. See GlennSacks.com source page Internet Archive Wayback Machine version. I have been tolled that in the United States it is a mistake to have sex with a unwed American women because the majority will make a father pay 18 years of court ordered child support and will drive the father out of there lives and tread him as criminal/crap/garbage. This is American culture. An American women told me that she knows that is what the majority of American women do, but she was the exception to the rule and respect the fathers parental rights in a diplomatic friendly manner. This American women would be allowed to work with small children in Belgium if she can get a proper work permit, and would even be a good mother under Italian standards. The American mentality is I want a silver plate with a million dollars on and I do not want to work to get it. In the United States 80 percent of American women do not understand the concept of family because child support is more important than maintaining family relationships. Lawyer’s advice man to never marry or have sex with them if you do not want to deal with an ugly divorce or have to pay court ordered child support. The only reason why American women want to have sex is in order to get 18 years of court ordered child support and use 9/10 of it on them selves. Lawyers say that it is better to only have a low paying job, and have a child support order of only, $15.00 a month that it is to have a high paying job, and have a child support order of $250,000.00 a month that will not lower if you voluntary drop to your income $1,000.00 a month. This is because child support will be high than your income and you could go to jail lose your job, have no income and have a debt that can never be paid of. The reason those child support laws are there in the United States is because majority (about 90 percent) of American man like to have sex (play and do not want to pay) and abandon their children. Other wise many American man will try and get more than 25 women pregnant in less than two years and abandon every single one. Those child support laws are designed to stop man from becoming fathers by handling man as criminals for being a father and actively refusing to pay court ordered child support to the mother and be the non-custodial parent. This lowers the birth rate by 20 percent in many states (example, Alabama, Alaska & Arizona) with American women not foreign-born women. Lawyers in the United States advice American man that if you do not want to be the no custodial parent and have to pay child support and be handled as a criminal/crap/garbage than you should never have sex or have children with those American women. More American women know that for this reason alone many who want children must use a sperm donor from a sperm bank (or remain child less) and pay for this 100 percent them selves because many American man do not want to pay for this and follow there lawyers advice. Tough child support laws may deter single men from becoming fathers, study finds Michigan Has Its Lowest Birthrate Since The 1870′s. Only Ones Wearing Diapers Are The Seniors Who Remain. Only if the father lives in Australia, Canada, and the Untied States (also possible in New Zeeland and the UK), can a mother get child support enforced by handling the father as a criminal and crap, while at the same time deny him his parental rights. They have the most effective child support enforcement in the world. I know this because I have researched child support laws from other countries. In most countries, it is very difficult to put a father in jail for not paying child support (it does happen), because it is impossible to enforce, but does happen. That is what the majority American women do. This is American culture. The same goes for nationals of those countries who have sex in other countries that have a child support treaty. They generally have to pay child support and cannot get any visitation rights under US law. Click here for the list of US Federal Internet Archive Wayback Machine version and State child support treaties. Click here for an example with Germany Internet Archive Wayback Machine version. In most countries in the world the mother cannot get child support enforced, if she is not willing to give the father equal parenting time. Australia Reciprocating jurisdictions Internet Archive Wayback Machine version Excluded jurisdictions Internet Archive Wayback Machine version Canada Interjurisdictional and international enforcement Internet Archive Wayback Machine version Section 51.70 (a) (8) of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations states, in part, that if you are certified to Passport Services by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to be in arrears of child support payments in excess of $2,500, you are ineligible to receive a U.S. passport. If this applies to you, Passport Services strongly recommends that you contact the appropriate State child support enforcement agency to make payment arrangements before applying for a passport. According to the US Dept. of Health & Human Services study, "Survey of Absent Parents" over 60% of mothers regularly violate the access rights of fathers, cutting off all contact between the children and their fathers within five years. Unlike child support, mothers are not jailed, even with multiple Contempt of Court ruling against them for violating the fathers' court ordered visitation rights. It is not a mistake to have sex with a foreign (born outside the United States) women in the United States (there are always expectations) because most foreign women will not make a father pay court ordered child support and most want there children to have a very good relationship with there father and raise there children in the close nit family structure of the 1950’s properly under Italian standards and expect there son/daughter to properly present them selves abroad. Most foreign women do not want to deal with family court and is usually ensure to come up with a parenting plan with out going to family court (there are always expetions). The same goes for American women who are raised that way by immigrant mothers/grand mothers. They are old-fashioned subscribe to culture and costumes of the country where there parents/grand parents are from. They still do things the same way their immigrant parents do things. It is very difficult if not impossible to be able to come up with a parenting plan with out going to family court that man are satisfied with American women 100 percent the fault of the women. Most foreign women and American children/adults (both male and female) that are raised by a foreign born/immigrant mother have a very negative opinion of American women. I have an American corporate officer and another coworker tell me that it is generally know that if you want to do things properly you must stay away from American women and stick to foreign born women. Most Americans children/adults that are raised by immigrant mothers can properly present them selves abroad, but most Americans that are raised by American mothers can’t and are hated when they travel to other countries because they are raised and behave different than the rest of the world. It does not matter what country your mother is from. The first generation usually shows no American influence. Most immigrant mothers want their American children to have a good relationship with their father. I you want children that can properly present them selves abroad (show noting American that people in other countries do not like) with a mother that respect your parental rights and do not want to deal with American women in family court and child support than you should have children with immigrant mothers or US born women who are raised by immigrant mothers. I know of an American man who married a woman who is from the Philippines for this reason alone. I know an American man who is married and has a daughter with a woman who is from Columbia for the same reason. The bonus part is when they travel to countries where Americans (US Citizens) are hated people think they are born in Belgium/Columbia/Philippines, not the United States. Most American children that are raised by mothers from Latin America are raised the same way as your average Europeans at least the girls. Men are different unless they have a European born father. I used to work at a catholic school and many American men were married to women who are born in Europe and Latin America. This is because it is very difficult (More difficult than you think) to find an American woman that can be trusted to raise children the same was as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama respect the fathers parental rights in a diplomatic friendly manner and not deal with family court and child support. It is generally know that if that is what you want you must stay away from American women and stick to foreign-born women. Any American that will be declared Persona non grata by my relatives in Belgium will also be declared personal no grate in the same private catholic school in the United States. This is high-class society in the United States. Update: Variations of Marriage Strike Due to the fear of predicaments around marriage and divorce, there are also other life style behaviors closely associated with Marriage Strike. - Birth Strike. In some jurisdictions (ie Canada), pregnancy/birth automatically grant your girlfriend the same legal status as a wife. Consequently, men practice Birth Strike with their romantic partner, refusing to allow pregnancy. - Breakup. In some jurisdictions, prolonged co-habitation result in automatic recognition of marital status for legal purposes. Some men routinely breakup to avoid such status. Although it is unclear if they simply enjoy "playing women". - Expatriation. Dissatisfied by the perceived corruption of the local female population, some men intentionally marry women not native to his nation. Some travel to another country for marriage, some marry foreigners on working visa. While this is not a strike to marriage, it is a boycott against the domestic supply of women. Courtesy: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=149553 Actually American men marry foreign women because they are more "accomodating" to men's needs, they tend to be more "forgiving" of men's mistakes AND they are less likely to divorce their husbands at the drop of a hat. Given our numerous options we just don't find American women desirable anymore. As you are aware, the anti- American women sentiment among men runs very very deep in this country - I mean, just look at the countless number of foreign bride and anti-American women websites in the internet, and not to mention the numerous anti-American women threads on Topix. Hon, in this day and age, we American men just don't want you gals anymore. There is no hate among American men here - it's just that we don't find American women desirable anymore and instead, we prefer foreign brides. Why do American women acti so angry and scornful? Don't men have the right to say who they find desirable and who they choose to marry? I don't understand why American women are all up in arms over this discussion - it seems to me that many of you American gals have rather low self-esteem. Misandrists/Feminists will tell you that most foreign women that marry American/Western men are poor, uneducated women who “don’t know any better”. Fact is that the majority are profession women with college degrees. The divorce rate of American men who marry foreign women and bring them to the US is 20% compared with a 60% divorce rate for American men who marry American women. The divorce rate of American men who marry foreign women and move to her country is near 0%. All of the above characterizations by Misandrists/Feminists of foreign women who marry American/Western men are bigoted, hateful, and untrue. Misandrists/Feminists simply hate foreign women because American/Western women can’t compete. But my main point is, one way to not be quiescent is to think about some numbers: American women represent 5% of the global population of women. Chances are, they're at the bottom 5% in terms of quality because they're probably sexist, self-centered and demanding as hell... and they will divorce you at least 45% of the time you marry them, guaranteed. With odds like that, you can't go wrong by looking abroad! Are you lowering your standards or selling-out? Absolutely not! By looking abroad, you're merely widening your search for the finest woman you can possibly find. It allows you to make better decisions. Or, if you're a real gambler and you're willing to risk marrying an American chick, at the very least insist on a prenuptial agreement and talk to a lawyer about what other divorce laws you should be aware of, for Gods' sake. If your fiancée refuses to sign a prenup like mine did, then you'll get an idea of why she's marrying you. It's a sad fact that in America, more than 60% of marriages end in divorce. Even more sad is that roughly 75% of divorces are initiated by the woman over the man's objections (the remaining 25% are either mutually-agreed divorces or divorces initiated by the husband over the woman's objections; those two categories are about half and half within that remaining 25%). These are all conservative numbers, by the way; they've been rounded-down for the sake of simplicity. So, if 60% of marriages end in divorce, and 75% of those are initiated by the woman, we can do the math to combine these percentages: (.75(.6)) x 100 = 45. There is at least a 45% chance that whenever a man gets married to an American woman, the woman will want to divorce him at some point. You have better chances at surviving Russian roulette! My personal observations have been that about 80%-90% of all men that I know of who married foreign women (that they met in a foreign countries that I mentioned, not in the US) report being very happy. Conversely, of the thousands of men that I’ve known in my life who’ve married American women, less than 5% report being happy. When I was a very young man, I thought that all of my friends, guys that I worked with, guys that went to church with, etcetera… guys everywhere were all part of some big conspiracy to scare single guys. After several years of horror stories from friends who confided in me about how miserable they were being married to American women, and my own personal experiences dating American women, I realized that they were telling the truth. After all, guys like to brag about how much sex they are getting and how well their girl friend or wife treats them. Guys do not like to “brag” about getting no sex and being treated badly. They complain about that to other guys, because telling their wife makes things worse, and they have to tell somebody to keep from going in sane.

  176. Anonymous

    Difference between family life, The United States & Europe. Most children in western Europe & Latin America are still raised in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s. In most countries in western European countries (example Belgium, Italy, Sweden) most mothers want their children to have a very good relationship with their father (respects fathers parental rights) and do not care about child support or money. This is the only reason why Tiger Woods married a Swedish woman not an American woman. Tiger Wood children are raised as Swedish expatriate children, because that way they have the skills to survive in Sweden and not be labeled as Americans. This is the only reason why eastern European women have told me a European man why I should only marry a European women and stay away from American women. This is how most Europeans raise their American children. This is the only reason why Tiger Woods intentionally married a Swedish woman and stayed away from American women. Elin Nordegren the Swedish ex-wife of Tiger Woods got a $110 million settlement for doing just that plus an indeterminate amount of child support. Elin Nordegren wanted enough money to not change her luxurious lifestyle, but she didn’t try to take him for every penny that she could. Elin wants to get on with her life. The reason why Elin Nordegren divorced Tiger Woods is because he was involved in a sex scandal in which he had sex with many different women. This is also the only reason why American actor Johnny Depp’s has two children with a French woman Vanessa Paradis. Most Europeans can properly present them selves abroad for the same reason diplomats from their country can. This is because Europeans are raised different than most Americans. The majority of American women hate man, and 80 percent do not understand the concept of family, and try and drive the father out of their children’s lives because that is the only way they can get child support. They try and get every singe dime out child support of the father and use 9/10 percent of that them self’s. They treat their husband (and or ex-husband) like crap and man have to work as slaves to financially there ex with alimony and child support. Fathers could go to jail for quitting a job, or have a drop in income in the United States. You have the same problem in Australia, Britain, Canada and New Zeeland. Those countries copied the same child support system, as the United States but the United States is the worst in the world with this. According to the Italian's (I asked them) ninety percent of American women are a piece of crap because they cannot properly present them selves abroad and are unfit mothers because they will not raise children properly under Italian standards. American women who are US Diplomats that work for the US State Department can properly present them selves abroad and are good mothers and are raised properly under Italian standards. Ninety percent of this can only be learned in the home & ten percent is learned in School. This is because of the unique nature of American culture and lifestyle that makes American women different than women from the rest of the world. American women I am ashamed to watch American tourists in Europe and especially and often the women are the worst. They are loud and demanding and totally unaware of the fact that they are a guest in our country. They expect service immediately as they were used to in the states and they are often ill mannered and ungrateful when they get it. Americans are hated all over the world because some Americans can be extremely arrogant and disrespectful towards anyone not American. It is all ignorance, most Americans have no understanding of what is beyond U.S. borders nor do they make any effort to understand, they just stick to their self-centered and warped sense of superiority. Second, and most important, you can never trust any type of politician -- for any reason. And that might hold true for any corporate businessman because their only concern is to make as much money as possible without caring how it is obtained. The real subject of this is how the family life shapes children to become either "the embarrassment of the United States of America by their ignorant citizens traveling and living abroad" or how a good upbringing can help to create a more self-controlled and educated individual that would be considered by all to be an American to look up to. As an ex-patriot, I can attest to these facts. The difference between the US and Europe is the way that womens rights have developed over the past 50 years and the decisions that were made to do that. In the US women saw men as having more rights and decided that they wanted to be more like men. In Europe women simply wanted to have the same rights and opportunities as men but did so without trying to take on masculine traits. This is why European women retain their femininity whereas American women see femininity as being from an era when they were treated as second-class citizens. Hence, when I am at a business lunch its always a women that screams ' I am paying' and when I do sports its always a woman who is shouting the loudest. They view aggressiveness and what they perceive as manly characteristics as a route to equality for women. In Europe these things (femininity and rights) are more separated. Basically the issue in he US is that women are willfully taking on the negative aspects of men as they see it as a route to equality, and men don't like it. Men are in the position that if they advise a woman on her masculine characteristics that he is then attacking her rights. A possible side effect from a capitalistic economy such as the United States, the child support system has become a good source of revenue for civil courts, attorneys and parents. It has been argued that United States Child Support laws encourage parents into a legal "tug-of-war" which results in a severe loss of time and income first from both parents (such as legal fees, court costs, and time off work), and finally to the parent who loses in court (typically the father). The premise of the law is to protect the children. In actuality, it is argued, the children are hurt the most by the system due to the alienation of the non-custodial parent. It has been recognized by various government committees that parents are alienating each other both from themselves and from their children. Non-custodial parents feel they are nothing more than a bank account to the family and can get pushed out due to increased hours at work or having to accept a second job to pay support money. This leaves little or no time for the non-custodial parent to focus on time spent with the children. Attorneys and judges may not want to forfeit the revenues from such a lucrative "business" and there is a pejorative label given to non-custodial parents who resist the child support. They're labeled as "dead beat dads". Trends from within the United States today are pushing for an adjusted system. Many groups are demanding a more hands-off approach where government does not micromanage the family. These trends may encourage change in local and Federal laws. Arnold Schwarzenegger American wife and American children has the skills to live and work in Austria as easily as their father and US diplomats who work for the US state department that are stationed in Austria and can be equally be trusted. This is something that can only be learned at home not in school and are still raised in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s. His children have visited Austria with their father. His wife is divorcing him because he was involved in affair and has been paying him child support payment before they officially filed for divorce. Arnold Schwarzenegger was born in Austria and immigrated to the United States and became a naturalized US citizen and to this day has duel citizenship (nationality) of Austria and the United States. It would be an embarrassment to Austria if they do not. This is also the case with Belgium citizen actor Jean-Claude Van Damme, Spanish actor Antonio Banderas and most European man. This would also be the same for Australian media tycoon Rupert Murdoch who is the owner of News Corp. Michael Jackson raised his children that way until the day he died as a single father because he was the custodial parent. A single father can do this as easily as a mother. Jackson's then-11-year-old daughter, Paris Katherine, tearfully told the crowd at the Michael Jackson memorial service shortly after his death “Ever since I was born, Daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine ... I just wanted to say I love him so much." She is raised properly under European standards. You can tell that by taking a look at her pictures at Michael Jackson's daughter Paris finally has some 'girl time' at the mall. So Michael Jackson was a good father but Debbie Rowe but got millions of dollars for giving Michael Jackson & later Katherine Jackson custody of her children. It would also be very embarrassing for politicians like George W. Bush (43rd U.S. president) and wealthy Americans like Bill gates that his wife and daughter & son are not raised the same way as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama and can not properly present them selves abroad for the same reason US diplomats who work for the State Department and do not comply with the official Euro requirement. This would be the same for the Jackson family if Michael Jackson's children were not raised that way. The Tiger Woods and Arnold Schwarzenegger divorces are also very civil and are with mutual consent and involved a parenting plan that both parents are satisfied with that is rubberstamped with by family court. There ex wives also respect there ex husband’s parental rights in a civil and professional/diplomatic manner and their ex-husband pay child support in an agreement that they are satisfied with. It is very socially unacceptable in such a high-class society if they have a nasty child custody dispute and fight over child support in family court in the United States. The majority (seventy five percent) of American mothers tries and drives the father out of their children’s lives because that is the only way they can get child support. They try and get every single dime out child support of the father. They treat their husband (and or ex-husband) like crap. This is American culture. Lawyer’s advice man that if you do not want to deal with such a ugly divorce than you should never marry those American women and stay single for the rest of your live. Many American women know that this is the only reason they can’t find a husband because more American man listen to there lawyers. This is why it is rare to find European man and most realty foreign man to marry an American woman. Those same American women would lose custody of there children in the legal system of Belgium and most western European countries example Germany, Italy, Sweden along with Japan and in many Muslim (Middle East) countries because they are unfit mothers if they tried this in Europe Japan and in many Muslim (Middle East) countries. See GlennSacks.com source page Internet Archive Wayback Machine version. I have been tolled that in the United States it is a mistake to have sex with a unwed American women because the majority will make a father pay 18 years of court ordered child support and will drive the father out of there lives and tread him as criminal/crap/garbage. This is American culture. An American women told me that she knows that is what the majority of American women do, but she was the exception to the rule and respect the fathers parental rights in a diplomatic friendly manner. This American women would be allowed to work with small children in Belgium if she can get a proper work permit, and would even be a good mother under Italian standards. The American mentality is I want a silver plate with a million dollars on and I do not want to work to get it. In the United States 80 percent of American women do not understand the concept of family because child support is more important than maintaining family relationships. Lawyer’s advice man to never marry or have sex with them if you do not want to deal with an ugly divorce or have to pay court ordered child support. The only reason why American women want to have sex is in order to get 18 years of court ordered child support and use 9/10 of it on them selves. Lawyers say that it is better to only have a low paying job, and have a child support order of only, $15.00 a month that it is to have a high paying job, and have a child support order of $250,000.00 a month that will not lower if you voluntary drop to your income $1,000.00 a month. This is because child support will be high than your income and you could go to jail lose your job, have no income and have a debt that can never be paid of. The reason those child support laws are there in the United States is because majority (about 90 percent) of American man like to have sex (play and do not want to pay) and abandon their children. Other wise many American man will try and get more than 25 women pregnant in less than two years and abandon every single one. Those child support laws are designed to stop man from becoming fathers by handling man as criminals for being a father and actively refusing to pay court ordered child support to the mother and be the non-custodial parent. This lowers the birth rate by 20 percent in many states (example, Alabama, Alaska & Arizona) with American women not foreign-born women. Lawyers in the United States advice American man that if you do not want to be the no custodial parent and have to pay child support and be handled as a criminal/crap/garbage than you should never have sex or have children with those American women. More American women know that for this reason alone many who want children must use a sperm donor from a sperm bank (or remain child less) and pay for this 100 percent them selves because many American man do not want to pay for this and follow there lawyers advice. Tough child support laws may deter single men from becoming fathers, study finds Michigan Has Its Lowest Birthrate Since The 1870′s. Only Ones Wearing Diapers Are The Seniors Who Remain. Only if the father lives in Australia, Canada, and the Untied States (also possible in New Zeeland and the UK), can a mother get child support enforced by handling the father as a criminal and crap, while at the same time deny him his parental rights. They have the most effective child support enforcement in the world. I know this because I have researched child support laws from other countries. In most countries, it is very difficult to put a father in jail for not paying child support (it does happen), because it is impossible to enforce, but does happen. That is what the majority American women do. This is American culture. The same goes for nationals of those countries who have sex in other countries that have a child support treaty. They generally have to pay child support and cannot get any visitation rights under US law. Click here for the list of US Federal Internet Archive Wayback Machine version and State child support treaties. Click here for an example with Germany Internet Archive Wayback Machine version. In most countries in the world the mother cannot get child support enforced, if she is not willing to give the father equal parenting time. Australia Reciprocating jurisdictions Internet Archive Wayback Machine version Excluded jurisdictions Internet Archive Wayback Machine version Canada Interjurisdictional and international enforcement Internet Archive Wayback Machine version Section 51.70 (a) (8) of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations states, in part, that if you are certified to Passport Services by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to be in arrears of child support payments in excess of $2,500, you are ineligible to receive a U.S. passport. If this applies to you, Passport Services strongly recommends that you contact the appropriate State child support enforcement agency to make payment arrangements before applying for a passport. According to the US Dept. of Health & Human Services study, "Survey of Absent Parents" over 60% of mothers regularly violate the access rights of fathers, cutting off all contact between the children and their fathers within five years. Unlike child support, mothers are not jailed, even with multiple Contempt of Court ruling against them for violating the fathers' court ordered visitation rights. It is not a mistake to have sex with a foreign (born outside the United States) women in the United States (there are always expectations) because most foreign women will not make a father pay court ordered child support and most want there children to have a very good relationship with there father and raise there children in the close nit family structure of the 1950’s properly under Italian standards and expect there son/daughter to properly present them selves abroad. Most foreign women do not want to deal with family court and is usually ensure to come up with a parenting plan with out going to family court (there are always expetions). The same goes for American women who are raised that way by immigrant mothers/grand mothers. They are old-fashioned subscribe to culture and costumes of the country where there parents/grand parents are from. They still do things the same way their immigrant parents do things. It is very difficult if not impossible to be able to come up with a parenting plan with out going to family court that man are satisfied with American women 100 percent the fault of the women. Most foreign women and American children/adults (both male and female) that are raised by a foreign born/immigrant mother have a very negative opinion of American women. I have an American corporate officer and another coworker tell me that it is generally know that if you want to do things properly you must stay away from American women and stick to foreign born women. Most Americans children/adults that are raised by immigrant mothers can properly present them selves abroad, but most Americans that are raised by American mothers can’t and are hated when they travel to other countries because they are raised and behave different than the rest of the world. It does not matter what country your mother is from. The first generation usually shows no American influence. Most immigrant mothers want their American children to have a good relationship with their father. I you want children that can properly present them selves abroad (show noting American that people in other countries do not like) with a mother that respect your parental rights and do not want to deal with American women in family court and child support than you should have children with immigrant mothers or US born women who are raised by immigrant mothers. I know of an American man who married a woman who is from the Philippines for this reason alone. I know an American man who is married and has a daughter with a woman who is from Columbia for the same reason. The bonus part is when they travel to countries where Americans (US Citizens) are hated people think they are born in Belgium/Columbia/Philippines, not the United States. Most American children that are raised by mothers from Latin America are raised the same way as your average Europeans at least the girls. Men are different unless they have a European born father. I used to work at a catholic school and many American men were married to women who are born in Europe and Latin America. This is because it is very difficult (More difficult than you think) to find an American woman that can be trusted to raise children the same was as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama respect the fathers parental rights in a diplomatic friendly manner and not deal with family court and child support. It is generally know that if that is what you want you must stay away from American women and stick to foreign-born women. Any American that will be declared Persona non grata by my relatives in Belgium will also be declared personal no grate in the same private catholic school in the United States. This is high-class society in the United States. Update: Variations of Marriage Strike Due to the fear of predicaments around marriage and divorce, there are also other life style behaviors closely associated with Marriage Strike. - Birth Strike. In some jurisdictions (ie Canada), pregnancy/birth automatically grant your girlfriend the same legal status as a wife. Consequently, men practice Birth Strike with their romantic partner, refusing to allow pregnancy. - Breakup. In some jurisdictions, prolonged co-habitation result in automatic recognition of marital status for legal purposes. Some men routinely breakup to avoid such status. Although it is unclear if they simply enjoy "playing women". - Expatriation. Dissatisfied by the perceived corruption of the local female population, some men intentionally marry women not native to his nation. Some travel to another country for marriage, some marry foreigners on working visa. While this is not a strike to marriage, it is a boycott against the domestic supply of women. Courtesy: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=149553 Actually American men marry foreign women because they are more "accomodating" to men's needs, they tend to be more "forgiving" of men's mistakes AND they are less likely to divorce their husbands at the drop of a hat. Given our numerous options we just don't find American women desirable anymore. As you are aware, the anti- American women sentiment among men runs very very deep in this country - I mean, just look at the countless number of foreign bride and anti-American women websites in the internet, and not to mention the numerous anti-American women threads on Topix. Hon, in this day and age, we American men just don't want you gals anymore. There is no hate among American men here - it's just that we don't find American women desirable anymore and instead, we prefer foreign brides. Why do American women acti so angry and scornful? Don't men have the right to say who they find desirable and who they choose to marry? I don't understand why American women are all up in arms over this discussion - it seems to me that many of you American gals have rather low self-esteem. Misandrists/Feminists will tell you that most foreign women that marry American/Western men are poor, uneducated women who “don’t know any better”. Fact is that the majority are profession women with college degrees. The divorce rate of American men who marry foreign women and bring them to the US is 20% compared with a 60% divorce rate for American men who marry American women. The divorce rate of American men who marry foreign women and move to her country is near 0%. All of the above characterizations by Misandrists/Feminists of foreign women who marry American/Western men are bigoted, hateful, and untrue. Misandrists/Feminists simply hate foreign women because American/Western women can’t compete. But my main point is, one way to not be quiescent is to think about some numbers: American women represent 5% of the global population of women. Chances are, they're at the bottom 5% in terms of quality because they're probably sexist, self-centered and demanding as hell... and they will divorce you at least 45% of the time you marry them, guaranteed. With odds like that, you can't go wrong by looking abroad! Are you lowering your standards or selling-out? Absolutely not! By looking abroad, you're merely widening your search for the finest woman you can possibly find. It allows you to make better decisions. Or, if you're a real gambler and you're willing to risk marrying an American chick, at the very least insist on a prenuptial agreement and talk to a lawyer about what other divorce laws you should be aware of, for Gods' sake. If your fiancée refuses to sign a prenup like mine did, then you'll get an idea of why she's marrying you. It's a sad fact that in America, more than 60% of marriages end in divorce. Even more sad is that roughly 75% of divorces are initiated by the woman over the man's objections (the remaining 25% are either mutually-agreed divorces or divorces initiated by the husband over the woman's objections; those two categories are about half and half within that remaining 25%). These are all conservative numbers, by the way; they've been rounded-down for the sake of simplicity. So, if 60% of marriages end in divorce, and 75% of those are initiated by the woman, we can do the math to combine these percentages: (.75(.6)) x 100 = 45. There is at least a 45% chance that whenever a man gets married to an American woman, the woman will want to divorce him at some point. You have better chances at surviving Russian roulette! My personal observations have been that about 80%-90% of all men that I know of who married foreign women (that they met in a foreign countries that I mentioned, not in the US) report being very happy. Conversely, of the thousands of men that I’ve known in my life who’ve married American women, less than 5% report being happy. When I was a very young man, I thought that all of my friends, guys that I worked with, guys that went to church with, etcetera… guys everywhere were all part of some big conspiracy to scare single guys. After several years of horror stories from friends who confided in me about how miserable they were being married to American women, and my own personal experiences dating American women, I realized that they were telling the truth. After all, guys like to brag about how much sex they are getting and how well their girl friend or wife treats them. Guys do not like to “brag” about getting no sex and being treated badly. They complain about that to other guys, because telling their wife makes things worse, and they have to tell somebody to keep from going in sane. Source Page Included here are many of the facts I use in my articles and radio appearances about fathers.� The facts are in bold and the source or sources are below it.� The facts are not listed in any particular order. Where possible, I’ve included URLs so the reader can go directly to the source and examine it. This page is a work in progress, and I simply have not had the time to refine it as much as I would like.� If readers have� questions about any of these facts and/or sources, feel free to write to me at Glenn@GlennSacks.com. Best Wishes, Glenn Sacks #1: “Two?thirds or more of all divorces involving couples with children are initiated by mothers, not fathers.” Source: Margaret F. Brinig and Douglas A. Allen, “‘These Boots Are Made For Walking”: Why Most Divorce Filers Are Women” American Law and Economics Review 2?1 (2000): 126?169. Source: John Tierney, “A New Look at the Realities of Divorce,” New York Times, July 11, 2000. Source: Sanford Braver, Marnie Whitley, and Christine Ng, “Who Divorced Whom? Methodological and Theoretical Issues,” Journal of Divorce and Remarriage 20, 1993, p. 1. Source: Cathy Young, “The Sadness of the American Father,” The American Spectator,� June 2000.� See http://fact.on.ca/news/news0006/as000601.htm. #2: “A randomized study of 46,000 divorce cases published in the American Law and Economics Review found that in only 6% of cases women claimed to be divorcing cruel or abusive husbands, and that adultery was cited by women as a cause of divorce only slightly more than by men.� Surveys of divorced couples show that the reasons for their divorces are generally a lack of closeness or of “not feeling loved and appreciated.” Source: Margaret F. Brinig and Douglas A. Allen, “These Boots Are Made For Walking”: Why Most Divorce Filers Are Women” American Law and Economics Review 2-1 (2000): 126-169. Source: John Tierney, “A New Look at the Realities of Divorce,” New York Times, July 11, 2000. Source: Beuhler, “Whose Decision Was It?” Journal of Marriage and the Family, Vol. 48, pp 587 – 595, 1987. Source: Cathy Young, “The Sadness of the American Father,” The American Spectator, June 2000.� See http://fact.on.ca/news/news0006/as000601.htm. #3: “Studies show that the overwhelming majority of steadily employed divorced fathers pay their child support. While there are a few well?heeled divorced dads who stiff their children, most non?paying dads are either poor, unemployed, disabled, or incarcerated. According to a US Government Accounting Office report, two?thirds of those fathers who do not pay their child support fail to do so because they are financially unable to do so.” Source: Judi Bartfield and Daniel R. Meyer: “Are There Really Deadbeat Dads? The Relationship Between Ability to Pay, Enforcement, and Compliance in Nonmarital Child Support Cases,” Social Service Review 68, 1994, pp. 219?235. Source: “Deadbeat Dad Image A Myth, Study Finds,”� New York Times,� May 5, 1999.� See: http://sharedparent.freeyellow.com/ddiamsf.pdf.� Look for “Divorced moms reported.” Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, pp. 206?207. Source: Kathleen Parker, “Deadbeat dads more myth than reality,” The Orlando Sentinel, Jan 24 1999. See: http://www.dadi.org/kpdbeat2.htm. Look for “Census Bureau.” #4: “There are almost as many unfaithful wives as there are unfaithful husbands. Research generally estimates that for every five unfaithful husbands, there are four unfaithful wives.” Source: Maggie Scarf, “Intimate Partners: An examination of the underlying architecture of love relationships–the influence of the past, the causes of infidelity, and the systems that couples create,” The Atlantic Monthly, November 1986. The article can be viewed here.� Look for “Emotional Triangles: Infidelity.” Source: John Przybys, “Unfaithfully Yours: Men, women have differing ideas about fidelity,” Las Vegas Review?Journal, March 29, 1998. The article can be found here. Look for “Paul Wulkan.” Source: Jennifer P. Schneider, Richard R. Irons, and M. Deborah Corley, “Disclosure of Extramarital Sexual Activities by Sexually Exploitative Professionals and Other Persons with Addictive or Compulsive Sexual Disorders,” Journal of Sex Education and Therapy 24:277?287, 1999. The article can be found here. Search in the text for the word “infidelity.” #5: “Domestic violence research overwhelmingly shows that women are just as likely as men to initiate and engage in domestic violence, and that only a small percentage of women’s domestic violence is committed in self?defense.� Studies show that women often compensate for their smaller size by their significantly greater use of weapons and the element of surprise.” Source: Richard J. Gelles, Ph.D., “The Missing Persons of Domestic Violence: Male Victims,” The Women’s Quarterly, Fall, 1999. See Gelles. Source: References Examining Assaults by Women on Their Spouses or Male Partners: An Annotated Bibliography by Martin S. Fiebert, Department of Psychology, California State University, Long Beach. See http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm. Source: Patricia Pearson, When She Was Bad: Violent Women & the Myth of Innocence, Penguin Books, 1998, pp. 119?123. Source: David Fontes, “Violent Touch: Breaking Through the Stereotype,” David L. Fontes, Psy.D., CEAP See http://www.safe4all.org/essays/vtbreak.pdf. Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, pp. 91?96. #6: “Official Department of Justice statistics show that men commit 70% of all murder of intimates. However, when other factors are accounted for, including unsolved murders, poisonings mistakenly classified as heart attacks, and contract killings classified as “multiple offender killings,” women have been shown to be at least as likely as men to murder their current or former spouses or intimates.” Source: Dershowitz, Alan M. 1994. The Abuse Excuse: And Other Cop?outs, Sob Stories and Evasions of Responsibility. Boston: Little Brown, pp. 311?313. See the pages “Wives Also Kill Husbands??Quite Often” at http://www.uiowa.edu/~030116/158/articles/dershowitz3.htm. Source:� 1994?95 U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics Publications Catalog, publication #. NCJ 43498, “Murder in Families.” Source: Warren Farrell, Women Can’t Hear What Men Don’t Say, Penguin Putnam Inc, 1999, pp 150?151. Source: This is also explained in detail in my column “Let’s not ‘Learn’ the Same Lessons From Blake That We Learned From OJ” which can be found at http://www.glennsacks.com/lets_not_learn.htm. #7: Most child abuse and parental murder of children is committed by mothers, not� fathers. Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Administration on Children, Youth, and Families, Child Maltreatment 1997: Reports from the States to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System (Washington DC, :GPO, 1999). See: http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/publications/ncands97/s7.htm. Child abuse perpetrators are 62.3% female.� Child fatality perpetrators are 62.8% female. The mother/father ratio is actually greater than this, because many of the male abusers counted are not the biological fathers but instead step?fathers, boyfriends, etc. Source on murders of children by single parents: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, Third National Incidence Study Of Child Abuse and Neglect: Final Report Appendices (Washington D.C., U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, 1997, pp. A?63?A?64.� The estimated total is 264 parental murders of children committed by single custodial mothers and 11 by single custodial fathers.� There are roughly five times as many single custodial mothers as single custodial fathers. Source: Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pp 75-77. #8: Access and Visitation Denial Three-quarters of divorced fathers surveyed maintain that their ex-spouses have substantially interfered with their visitation rights. Source: Joyce A. Arditti, “Factors Related to Custody, Visitation, and Child Support for Divorced Fathers: An Exploratory Analysis,” Journal of Divorce and Remarriage 17, 1992, pp. 34, 39. A study of children of divorce found that 42% of children who lived solely with their mother reported that their mother tried to prevent them from seeing their fathers after the divorce. However, only 16% of children who lived solely with their father reported similar obstruction. Source: Glynnis Walker, Solomon’s Children: Exploding the Myths of Divorce (New York: Arbor House, 1986), p. 83 Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, p. 209. In another study, 40% of divorced mothers admitted that they had interfered with their ex-husband’s access or visitation, and that their motives were punitive in nature and not due to safety considerations. Source: p. 449, col. II, lines 3-6, (citing Fulton) “Frequency of visitation by Divorced Fathers; Differences in Reports by Fathers and Mothers,” Sanford Braver et al, American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 1991. Source: J.A. Fulton, “Parental Reports of Children’s Post-Divorce Adjustment,” Journal of Social Issues 35, 1979, pp. 126-139. Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, p. 209. #9: Prosecutions of fathers who violate child support mandates are common, whereas prosecutions of mothers who violate visitation orders are rare. Source: Neil Chethik, “Law Backs the Right to Parental Visits,” Detroit Free Press, May 28, 1995, p.2J. Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, page 209. #10: The vast majority of accusations of child sexual abuse made during custody battles are false, unfounded or unsubstantiated. Source: Douglas J. Besharov and Lisa A. Laumann, “Child Abuse Reporting,” Social Science and Modern Society, Vol. 33, May/June, 1996, p. 42. Source: Blush, Gordon & Ross, Karol, 1986, The SAID Syndrome. Sterling Heights, MI: Family and Conciliation Courts Review. #11: Nationwide divorced fathers are ten times as likely to commit suicide as divorced mothers, and more than twice as likely to commit suicide as married fathers. Source for divorced fathers vs. married fathers: Augustine J. Kposowa, Ph.D., “Marital Status and Suicide in the National Longitudinal Mortality Study,” Journal of Epidemiology & Community Health, March, 2000, Volume 54, No. 4, pages 254?261 See http://wizard.ucr.edu/~akposowa/Status.pdf. Search for “divorced men.” Source for “10 times as likely” is Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pg. 174 & 279. #12: The rates of juvenile crime, teen pregnancy, teen drug abuse, and school dropouts are tightly correlated with fatherlessness, often more so than with any other socioeconomic factor. Source: The largest predictor of juvenile crime is the presence of a father is from, among others,� “Douglas A. Smith and G. Roger Jajoura, “Social Structure and Criminal Victimization,” Journal of Research in Crime and Delinquency, Vol. 25, Number 1, February 1988, pages 27-52.� In this study children of poor and wealthy families had equal juvenile crime rates if there was a father in the home. Source: The largest predictor of drug use is from, among others, Robert H. Coombs and John Landsverk, “Parenting Styles and Substance Abuse During Childhood and Adolescence,” Journal of Marriage and Family, Vol. 50, May 1988, p. 479, Table 4.� The study considered various factors, including race, social class, gender, etc.,� and father presence was five times more important than any other factor. Source: The teenage pregnancy statistic is from, among others, Frank F Furstenberg, Jr. and Kathleen Mullan Harris, “When and Why Fathers Matter: Impact of Father Involvement on the Children of Adolescent Mothers.” Source: Father presence and education is discussed in Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pp 31-34.� The presence of a father in a child’s life has more impact on a child’s educational achievement, beginning, in early elementary school, than race, social class, gender, etc. #13: Children are 88% more likely to be seriously injured from abuse or neglect by their mothers than by their fathers. Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Administration on Children, Youth, and Families, Child Maltreatment 1997: Reports from the States to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System (Washington DC, :GPO, 1999).� It is discussed in Father and Child Reunion by Warren Farrell, page 76. #14: “Prosecutions of fathers who violate child support mandates are common, whereas prosecutions of mothers who violate visitation orders are rare.” Source: Neil Chethik, “Law Backs the Right to Parental Visits,” Detroit Free Press, May 28, 1995, p.2J. Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, page 209. #15: “Fathers have a much better record of paying court-ordered child support than mothers do.” Source: John Siegmund, “Preliminary Analysis of the Database of the DC Office of Paternity and Child Support Enforcement” compiled for the Children’s Rights Council, November 9, 1999. #16: “The government spends $340 on enforcing child support for every $1 it spends on enforcing visitation rights.”� Source: The actual numbers are $3.4 billion on child support enforcement and $10 million on visitation enforcement.� The $3.4 billion figure comes from “Child Support Enforcement is Working Better than We Think” by Elain Sorensen and Ariel Halpern, The Urban Institute, Series A, No 31-A, March 1999, page 4. The $10 million figure comes from The Department of Health and Human Services, “93.597 Grants to States for Access and Visitation Programs.” (http://www.cfda.gov/static/93597.asp) Source: Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pp 182-183. #17: Other fathers have suffered at the hands of “move?away moms” who permit or even use geography to drive fathers out of their children’s lives. Source: Maura Dolan, Legal Affairs Writer, “Justices Ease Relocation of Children in Divorce Cases,”� Los Angeles Times, April 16, 1996, p. 1.� Three out of every four custodial mothers move within four years of divorce, for various reasons. #18: “Men win custody in only 10% of contested custody cases” (Note: To avoid confusion: the sources below do not all indicate 10%–some indicate 15 or 20%, some indicate less than 5%.� As a whole, the average is around 10%.) Source: Eleanor E. Maccoby and Robert H. Mnookin, Dividing the Child (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1992), pp. 104-105, 149-150. Source: Stephen J. Bahr, J.D. Howe, M. Morrill Mann, “Trends in Custody Awards: Has the Removal of Maternal Preference Made a Difference?”, Family Law Quarterly, Vol, pp. 247-267, Summer 1994. Source: Wendy Reiboldt and Sharon Seiling, “Factors Related to Men’s Award of Custody,” Family Advocate, Winter 1993, pp. 42-44. Published by the Family Law Section of the American Bar Association. Source: William T. K. Dolan, Esq., Empirical Study of Child Custody in Divorce Decrees in Arlington County, Virginia: July 1, 1989–December 30, 1990, � 1991. Source: Rich Blake, “Father Says System is Unfair to Men in Custody Battles,” Alexander (VA) Gazette Packet, October 22, 1992 . Source: Robert Seidenberg, The Father’s Emergency Guide to Divorce-Custody Battle, JES Books, 1997, pp. 11-15, 60-61. John P. McCahey, J.D., LL.M, et al., Child Custody and Visitation Law and Practice. Matthew Bender, New York. Volume 3, 1983, Section 13.01. #19: The commonly cited factoid that “men win custody half of the time or more when they contest it” is a myth. Source: “Do fathers have the edge in divorce?,” Cathy Young,� Detroit News, December 10, 1996. See: http://www.vix.com/menmag/youngdet.htm. Source: Robert Seidenberg, �The Father’s Emergency Guide to Divorce-Custody Battle, JES Books, 1997, pp. 11-15, 60-61. #20: “According to a long-term study conducted in the United States and in New Zealand and published in Child Development, a father’s absence greatly increases the risk of teen pregnancy. The study found that it mattered little whether the child was rich or poor, black or white, born to a teen mother or an adult mother, or raised by parents with functional or dysfunctional marriages. What mattered was dad.” Source: “Father’s Absence Increases Daughter’s Risk of Teen Pregnancy,” Health Behavior News Service, May 26, 2003 #21: “When Arizona State University psychology professor William Fabricius conducted a study of college students who had experienced their parents’ divorces while they were children, he found that over two-thirds believed that ‘living equal amounts of time with each parent is the best arrangement for children.’ His findings were published in Family Relations in 2003.” Source: Fabricius, W. V. (2003).� Listening to children of divorce: New findings on living arrangements, college support and relocation that rebut Wallerstein, Lewis and Blakeslee (2000).� Family Relations, 52, 385 – 396. #22: “The new report, What About the Dads? Child Welfare Agencies’ Efforts to Identify, Locate, and Involve Nonresident Fathers, examines the foster care systems of four states. The report contains a shocking finding: when fathers inform child welfare officials that they would like their children to live with them, the agencies seek to place the children with their fathers in only 8% of cases.” Source: What About the Dads? Child Welfare Agencies’ Efforts to Identify, Locate, and Involve Nonresident Fathers, The Urban Institute, April 2006. Under the heading “Father Involvement” the Institute notes that half of the nonresident fathers with whom they had been in contact were interested in having their kids live with them, but that in only “4% of cases the child’s case goal was placement with the father.” #23: “According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ new report Child Maltreatment 2004, when one parent is acting without the involvement of the other parent, mothers are almost three times as likely to kill their children as fathers are, and are more than twice as likely to abuse them.” Source: Child Maltreatment 2004, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. According to Figure 4-2 “Perpetrator Relationships of Fatalities, 2004 Child Maltreatment 2004″ here, child fatalities perpetrated by mothers or by “mother and other [not father]” comprise 40.6% of all child fatalities. Figure 4-2 also shows that fatalities perpetrated by fathers or by “father and other [not mother]” comprise 15.6% of all child fatalities. According to Figure 3-6 “Victims by Perpetrator Relationship, 2004 Child Maltreatment 2004,” here child abuse perpetrated by mothers or by “mother and other [not father]” comprise 45.6% of all child abuse. Figure 3-6 also shows that abuse perpetrated by fathers or by “father and other [not mother]” comprise 19.5% of all child abuse. #24: “What About the Dads? makes it clear that many child welfare workers treat fathers as an afterthought. The report found that even when a caseworker had been in contact with a child’s father, the caseworker was still five times less likely to know basic information about the father than about the mother. And 20% of the fathers whose identity and location were known by the child welfare agencies from the opening of the case were never even contacted.” Source: What About the Dads? Child Welfare Agencies’ Efforts to Identify, Locate, and Involve Nonresident Fathers, The Urban Institute, April 2006. In the research summary here the Institute says “One in five fathers whose identity and location were known at case opening were nonetheless never contacted by the child welfare agency.” The Institute also compared the caseworkers’ knowledge of information about the mothers and about the fathers with whom they had been in contact.� They write “Caseworkers much more often answered ‘don’t know’ to questions about a child’s father when they had readily available similar information on the mother. Typically, caseworkers reported not knowing information about mothers 1% to 5% of the time, depending on the item, while for fathers with whom they had been in contact, ‘don’t know’ responses were more often around 15%.” Since the range they gave for mothers was 1% to 5%, I took the middle–3%–and compared it with the figure for fathers, 15%. “According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ new report Child Maltreatment 2004, when one parent is acting without the involvement of the other parent, mothers are almost three times as likely to kill their children as fathers are, and are more than twice as likely to abuse them.” Source: Child Maltreatment 2004, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. According to Figure 4-2 “Perpetrator Relationships of Fatalities, 2004 Child Maltreatment 2004″ here, child fatalities perpetrated by mothers or by “mother and other [not father]” comprise 40.6% of all child fatalities. Figure 4-2 also shows that fatalities perpetrated by fathers or by “father and other [not mother]” comprise 15.6% of all child fatalities. According to Figure 3-6 “Victims by Perpetrator Relationship, 2004 Child Maltreatment 2004,” here child abuse perpetrated by mothers or by “mother and other [not father]” comprise 45.6% of all child abuse. Figure 3-6 also shows that abuse perpetrated by fathers or by “father and other [not mother]” comprise 19.5% of all child abuse. #25: “A study by psychologist Joan Kelly, published in the Family and Conciliation Courts Review,� found that children of divorce ‘express higher levels of satisfaction with joint physical custody than with sole custody arrangements,’ and cite the ‘benefit of remaining close to both parents” as an important factor.’” Source: Kelly, J., Current research on children’s postdivorce adjustment. Family and Conciliation Courts Review, 31.29-49, 1993 #26: “A Harvard University study of 517 families conducted across a four-and-a-half year period measured depression, deviance, school effort, and school grades in children ranging in age from 10 to 18. The researchers found that the children in joint custody settings fared better on these indices than those in sole custody.” Source: Buchanan, C., Maccoby, and Dornbusch, Adolescents After Divorce, Harvard University Press, 1996. #27: “According to psychologist Robert Bauserman’s meta-analysis of 33 studies of children of divorce, which was published in the American Psychological Association’s Journal of Family Psychology, children in shared custody settings had fewer behavior and emotional problems, higher self-esteem, better family relations, and better school performance than children in sole custody arrangements.” Source: Bauserman, R., “Child Adjustment in Joint-Custody Versus Sole-Custody Arrangements:� A Meta-Analytic Review”, Journal of Family Psychology, Vol. 16, No. 1, (2002) 91-102. #28: “Even after controlling for all major socioeconomic factors, including income, teens not living with their fathers were twice as likely to abuse drugs as those living in intact, two-parent married families.” Source: Hoffmann, John P., and Robert A. Johnson. “A National Portrait of Family Structure and Adolescent Drug Use.” Journal of Marriage and the Family 60 (August 1998): 633-645. #29: “A published Harvard review of four major studies found that, accounting for all major socioeconomic factors, children without a father in the home are twice as likely to drop out of high school or repeat a grade as children who live with their fathers.” Source: Sara McLanahan and Gary Sandefur, Growing Up with a Single Parent (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1994), p. 41. The four national surveys reviewed were: The National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, the Panel Study of Income Dynamics, the High School and Beyond Study, and the National Survey of Families and Households. Courtesy: http://glennsacks.com/blog/?page_id=1000

  177. Jessica Alba

    Eastern European women hate American women and say they are a piece of crap. It is more common than you think to find American men that are married to eastern European women and hate American women. Eastern European women/men from Romania told me, a European should never trust and body that is born in the United States and, only trust people who are born in Europe. Eastern European women also told me that any body that is born in the United States is a piece of crap. Also Eastern European women have advised me a European man in 2002 to stay away from American women and to stick to European women. They say that European man and there US born American son in the United States should only marry European born women (example, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom) and speak your native language to your children while the mother should only speak your native language and only speak Dutch to your children. That way your US born children should have the skills to live in Belgium/Netherlands if you decide to move back to Belgium/Netherlands in the future even if they have an German, Italian, Swedish, or even a Greek born mother. European born mothers will make sure of that. If an American citizen does not have the skills to live in Europe as easily as an average European and are hated by eastern European women who hate American women/man, than you will never get a job at the US State Department. The US State Department does not care of you have American or European parents, because this would be considered discrimination under US law. This is some thing that can only be learned based on the way you are raised by our mother and or father when you are a small child. This is because other countries example Canadians and people in the Middle East (Iran) can declare US diplomats for any reason Persona non grata (Latin, plural: personae non gratae), literally meaning "an unwelcome person", is a legal term used in diplomacy that indicates a proscription against a person entering the country. If you do not have the skills to live in Europe than you can never become a pilot and flight attendant on a transatlantic airplane (example, American Airlines) flight, but the airlines are less strict than the US State Department. Many US born women (not all) that are raised by a European mother/grand mother (not all) are as good (be equally be trusted and still have the skills to live in Europe) if their European mother/grand mother says they can be trusted equally. That is what European mothers tolled me, who also say that 90 percent of American women/men cannot be trusted and are a piece of crap because they can not properly present them selves abroad. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. Americans who are raised by European parents get some thing extra from our European parents 100 percent because of our upbringing that Americans who are raised by American parents do not get. That is that when we walk the streets in Europe every body thinks we are born in Europe we can behave like a typical European speak our parents native language (some only speak English) just as easily as our European parents can (still have European mentality) and it is impossible to tell that we are born in the United States and that we are Americans. It would appear that we are born in Europe not the United States even if we are born in the United States. Eastern European women who hate American women think they are born in Greece not the United States, and this is the only reason why they like me. I was born in the United States, my mother was born in the United States, but my grand parents are born in Greece. I have had American man (my old boss at work) who is married to a Dutch woman for more than 30 years, advised me to stay away from American women and stick to European women. His daughter married an Italian national and his grand son that he sees every day is raised Italian. It is very rare to find an Italian/European man marry an American women. He hates American women because what they did to his Dutch wife’s three Dutch born brothers. It is very common that you find American men who are married to European women in the United States or in Europe that hate American women. It is also common to find American man that are married to European women that find any American women a piece of crap, that any European considers a piece of crap. The same goes for US born American girls who have a European born mother. This is because European women will explain that to their American husband and her American daughter who in this case married an Italian man.

  178. Jessica Alba

    American children/adults (born in the United States) who are raised by European born mothers (example, Belgium, Sweden, and Italy) have a better relationship with their mother and are usually better behaved than most American children/adults who are raised by American mother. They get some thing extra their European born mother (some cases European born father), 100 percent because of our upbringing that Americans who are raised by American mothers/fathers do not get. That is when they walk the streets in Europe most Europeans think they are born in Europe/Sweden and behave like a typical European speak our mothers native language Swedish (some only speak English) just as easily their European/Swedish born mother can (still have European mentality) and it is impossible to tell that they are born in the United States. The children (both male and female) of Tiger Woods are a primarily example of this. American man will have a better relationship with his children and can thank their European mother for that. That is because European mothers want children to have a very good relationship with their father and do not deal with family court. European born mothers do not tolerate if their American children behave like Americans (have American mentality) and show ay thing Americans that the Europeans do not like. They should be equally be trusted if there European born mother says so. This is why it is very common to find a European man to marry a US born women raised by a European born mother, and European born women marry an American man raised by a European born women. This is why Eastern European women tell European man and there US born American sons to marry European born women and stay away from American women. This is because European mother wants her grand children to have the skills to live and work in Europe just as easily as there European born grandmother can. American man also do not have to deal with ugly divorces and child custody/court ordered child support battles that American women are world wide famous for.

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    Difference between family life, The United States & Europe. Most children in western Europe & Latin America are still raised in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s. In most countries in western European countries (example Belgium, Italy, Sweden) most mothers want their children to have a very good relationship with their father (respects fathers parental rights) and do not care about child support or money. This is the only reason why Tiger Woods married a Swedish woman not an American woman. Tiger Wood children are raised as Swedish expatriate children, because that way they have the skills to survive in Sweden and not be labeled as Americans. This is the only reason why eastern European women have told me a European man why I should only marry a European women and stay away from American women. This is how most Europeans raise their American children. This is the only reason why Tiger Woods intentionally married a Swedish woman and stayed away from American women. Elin Nordegren the Swedish ex-wife of Tiger Woods got a $110 million settlement for doing just that plus an indeterminate amount of child support. Elin Nordegren wanted enough money to not change her luxurious lifestyle, but she didn’t try to take him for every penny that she could. Elin wants to get on with her life. The reason why Elin Nordegren divorced Tiger Woods is because he was involved in a sex scandal in which he had sex with many different women. This is also the only reason why American actor Johnny Depp’s has two children with a French woman Vanessa Paradis. Most Europeans can properly present them selves abroad for the same reason diplomats from their country can. This is because Europeans are raised different than most Americans. The majority of American women hate man, and 80 percent do not understand the concept of family, and try and drive the father out of their children’s lives because that is the only way they can get child support. They try and get every singe dime out child support of the father and use 9/10 percent of that them self’s. They treat their husband (and or ex-husband) like crap and man have to work as slaves to financially there ex with alimony and child support. Fathers could go to jail for quitting a job, or have a drop in income in the United States. You have the same problem in Australia, Britain, Canada and New Zeeland. Those countries copied the same child support system, as the United States but the United States is the worst in the world with this. According to the Italian's (I asked them) ninety percent of American women are a piece of crap because they cannot properly present them selves abroad and are unfit mothers because they will not raise children properly under Italian standards. American women who are US Diplomats that work for the US State Department can properly present them selves abroad and are good mothers and are raised properly under Italian standards. Ninety percent of this can only be learned in the home & ten percent is learned in School. This is because of the unique nature of American culture and lifestyle that makes American women different than women from the rest of the world. American women I am ashamed to watch American tourists in Europe and especially and often the women are the worst. They are loud and demanding and totally unaware of the fact that they are a guest in our country. They expect service immediately as they were used to in the states and they are often ill mannered and ungrateful when they get it. Americans are hated all over the world because some Americans can be extremely arrogant and disrespectful towards anyone not American. It is all ignorance, most Americans have no understanding of what is beyond U.S. borders nor do they make any effort to understand, they just stick to their self-centered and warped sense of superiority. Second, and most important, you can never trust any type of politician -- for any reason. And that might hold true for any corporate businessman because their only concern is to make as much money as possible without caring how it is obtained. The real subject of this is how the family life shapes children to become either "the embarrassment of the United States of America by their ignorant citizens traveling and living abroad" or how a good upbringing can help to create a more self-controlled and educated individual that would be considered by all to be an American to look up to. As an ex-patriot, I can attest to these facts. The difference between the US and Europe is the way that womens rights have developed over the past 50 years and the decisions that were made to do that. In the US women saw men as having more rights and decided that they wanted to be more like men. In Europe women simply wanted to have the same rights and opportunities as men but did so without trying to take on masculine traits. This is why European women retain their femininity whereas American women see femininity as being from an era when they were treated as second-class citizens. Hence, when I am at a business lunch its always a women that screams ' I am paying' and when I do sports its always a woman who is shouting the loudest. They view aggressiveness and what they perceive as manly characteristics as a route to equality for women. In Europe these things (femininity and rights) are more separated. Basically the issue in he US is that women are willfully taking on the negative aspects of men as they see it as a route to equality, and men don't like it. Men are in the position that if they advise a woman on her masculine characteristics that he is then attacking her rights. A possible side effect from a capitalistic economy such as the United States, the child support system has become a good source of revenue for civil courts, attorneys and parents. It has been argued that United States Child Support laws encourage parents into a legal "tug-of-war" which results in a severe loss of time and income first from both parents (such as legal fees, court costs, and time off work), and finally to the parent who loses in court (typically the father). The premise of the law is to protect the children. In actuality, it is argued, the children are hurt the most by the system due to the alienation of the non-custodial parent. It has been recognized by various government committees that parents are alienating each other both from themselves and from their children. Non-custodial parents feel they are nothing more than a bank account to the family and can get pushed out due to increased hours at work or having to accept a second job to pay support money. This leaves little or no time for the non-custodial parent to focus on time spent with the children. Attorneys and judges may not want to forfeit the revenues from such a lucrative "business" and there is a pejorative label given to non-custodial parents who resist the child support. They're labeled as "dead beat dads". Trends from within the United States today are pushing for an adjusted system. Many groups are demanding a more hands-off approach where government does not micromanage the family. These trends may encourage change in local and Federal laws. Arnold Schwarzenegger American wife and American children has the skills to live and work in Austria as easily as their father and US diplomats who work for the US state department that are stationed in Austria and can be equally be trusted. This is something that can only be learned at home not in school and are still raised in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s. His children have visited Austria with their father. His wife is divorcing him because he was involved in affair and has been paying him child support payment before they officially filed for divorce. Arnold Schwarzenegger was born in Austria and immigrated to the United States and became a naturalized US citizen and to this day has duel citizenship (nationality) of Austria and the United States. It would be an embarrassment to Austria if they do not. This is also the case with Belgium citizen actor Jean-Claude Van Damme, Spanish actor Antonio Banderas and most European man. This would also be the same for Australian media tycoon Rupert Murdoch who is the owner of News Corp. Michael Jackson raised his children that way until the day he died as a single father because he was the custodial parent. A single father can do this as easily as a mother. Jackson's then-11-year-old daughter, Paris Katherine, tearfully told the crowd at the Michael Jackson memorial service shortly after his death “Ever since I was born, Daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine ... I just wanted to say I love him so much." She is raised properly under European standards. You can tell that by taking a look at her pictures at Michael Jackson's daughter Paris finally has some 'girl time' at the mall. So Michael Jackson was a good father but Debbie Rowe but got millions of dollars for giving Michael Jackson & later Katherine Jackson custody of her children. It would also be very embarrassing for politicians like George W. Bush (43rd U.S. president) and wealthy Americans like Bill gates that his wife and daughter & son are not raised the same way as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama and can not properly present them selves abroad for the same reason US diplomats who work for the State Department and do not comply with the official Euro requirement. This would be the same for the Jackson family if Michael Jackson's children were not raised that way. The Tiger Woods and Arnold Schwarzenegger divorces are also very civil and are with mutual consent and involved a parenting plan that both parents are satisfied with that is rubberstamped with by family court. There ex wives also respect there ex husband’s parental rights in a civil and professional/diplomatic manner and their ex-husband pay child support in an agreement that they are satisfied with. It is very socially unacceptable in such a high-class society if they have a nasty child custody dispute and fight over child support in family court in the United States. The majority (seventy five percent) of American mothers tries and drives the father out of their children’s lives because that is the only way they can get child support. They try and get every single dime out child support of the father. They treat their husband (and or ex-husband) like crap. This is American culture. Lawyer’s advice man that if you do not want to deal with such a ugly divorce than you should never marry those American women and stay single for the rest of your live. Many American women know that this is the only reason they can’t find a husband because more American man listen to there lawyers. This is why it is rare to find European man and most realty foreign man to marry an American woman. Those same American women would lose custody of there children in the legal system of Belgium and most western European countries example Germany, Italy, Sweden along with Japan and in many Muslim (Middle East) countries because they are unfit mothers if they tried this in Europe Japan and in many Muslim (Middle East) countries. See GlennSacks.com source page Internet Archive Wayback Machine version. I have been tolled that in the United States it is a mistake to have sex with a unwed American women because the majority will make a father pay 18 years of court ordered child support and will drive the father out of there lives and tread him as criminal/crap/garbage. This is American culture. An American women told me that she knows that is what the majority of American women do, but she was the exception to the rule and respect the fathers parental rights in a diplomatic friendly manner. This American women would be allowed to work with small children in Belgium if she can get a proper work permit, and would even be a good mother under Italian standards. The American mentality is I want a silver plate with a million dollars on and I do not want to work to get it. In the United States 80 percent of American women do not understand the concept of family because child support is more important than maintaining family relationships. Lawyer’s advice man to never marry or have sex with them if you do not want to deal with an ugly divorce or have to pay court ordered child support. The only reason why American women want to have sex is in order to get 18 years of court ordered child support and use 9/10 of it on them selves. Lawyers say that it is better to only have a low paying job, and have a child support order of only, $15.00 a month that it is to have a high paying job, and have a child support order of $250,000.00 a month that will not lower if you voluntary drop to your income $1,000.00 a month. This is because child support will be high than your income and you could go to jail lose your job, have no income and have a debt that can never be paid of. The reason those child support laws are there in the United States is because majority (about 90 percent) of American man like to have sex (play and do not want to pay) and abandon their children. Other wise many American man will try and get more than 25 women pregnant in less than two years and abandon every single one. Those child support laws are designed to stop man from becoming fathers by handling man as criminals for being a father and actively refusing to pay court ordered child support to the mother and be the non-custodial parent. This lowers the birth rate by 20 percent in many states (example, Alabama, Alaska & Arizona) with American women not foreign-born women. Lawyers in the United States advice American man that if you do not want to be the no custodial parent and have to pay child support and be handled as a criminal/crap/garbage than you should never have sex or have children with those American women. More American women know that for this reason alone many who want children must use a sperm donor from a sperm bank (or remain child less) and pay for this 100 percent them selves because many American man do not want to pay for this and follow there lawyers advice. Tough child support laws may deter single men from becoming fathers, study finds Michigan Has Its Lowest Birthrate Since The 1870′s. Only Ones Wearing Diapers Are The Seniors Who Remain. Only if the father lives in Australia, Canada, and the Untied States (also possible in New Zeeland and the UK), can a mother get child support enforced by handling the father as a criminal and crap, while at the same time deny him his parental rights. They have the most effective child support enforcement in the world. I know this because I have researched child support laws from other countries. In most countries, it is very difficult to put a father in jail for not paying child support (it does happen), because it is impossible to enforce, but does happen. That is what the majority American women do. This is American culture. The same goes for nationals of those countries who have sex in other countries that have a child support treaty. They generally have to pay child support and cannot get any visitation rights under US law. Click here for the list of US Federal Internet Archive Wayback Machine version and State child support treaties. Click here for an example with Germany Internet Archive Wayback Machine version. In most countries in the world the mother cannot get child support enforced, if she is not willing to give the father equal parenting time. Australia Reciprocating jurisdictions Internet Archive Wayback Machine version Excluded jurisdictions Internet Archive Wayback Machine version Canada Interjurisdictional and international enforcement Internet Archive Wayback Machine version Section 51.70 (a) (8) of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations states, in part, that if you are certified to Passport Services by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to be in arrears of child support payments in excess of $2,500, you are ineligible to receive a U.S. passport. If this applies to you, Passport Services strongly recommends that you contact the appropriate State child support enforcement agency to make payment arrangements before applying for a passport. According to the US Dept. of Health & Human Services study, "Survey of Absent Parents" over 60% of mothers regularly violate the access rights of fathers, cutting off all contact between the children and their fathers within five years. Unlike child support, mothers are not jailed, even with multiple Contempt of Court ruling against them for violating the fathers' court ordered visitation rights. It is not a mistake to have sex with a foreign (born outside the United States) women in the United States (there are always expectations) because most foreign women will not make a father pay court ordered child support and most want there children to have a very good relationship with there father and raise there children in the close nit family structure of the 1950’s properly under Italian standards and expect there son/daughter to properly present them selves abroad. Most foreign women do not want to deal with family court and is usually ensure to come up with a parenting plan with out going to family court (there are always expetions). The same goes for American women who are raised that way by immigrant mothers/grand mothers. They are old-fashioned subscribe to culture and costumes of the country where there parents/grand parents are from. They still do things the same way their immigrant parents do things. It is very difficult if not impossible to be able to come up with a parenting plan with out going to family court that man are satisfied with American women 100 percent the fault of the women. Most foreign women and American children/adults (both male and female) that are raised by a foreign born/immigrant mother have a very negative opinion of American women. I have an American corporate officer and another coworker tell me that it is generally know that if you want to do things properly you must stay away from American women and stick to foreign born women. Most Americans children/adults that are raised by immigrant mothers can properly present them selves abroad, but most Americans that are raised by American mothers can’t and are hated when they travel to other countries because they are raised and behave different than the rest of the world. It does not matter what country your mother is from. The first generation usually shows no American influence. Most immigrant mothers want their American children to have a good relationship with their father. I you want children that can properly present them selves abroad (show noting American that people in other countries do not like) with a mother that respect your parental rights and do not want to deal with American women in family court and child support than you should have children with immigrant mothers or US born women who are raised by immigrant mothers. I know of an American man who married a woman who is from the Philippines for this reason alone. I know an American man who is married and has a daughter with a woman who is from Columbia for the same reason. The bonus part is when they travel to countries where Americans (US Citizens) are hated people think they are born in Belgium/Columbia/Philippines, not the United States. Most American children that are raised by mothers from Latin America are raised the same way as your average Europeans at least the girls. Men are different unless they have a European born father. I used to work at a catholic school and many American men were married to women who are born in Europe and Latin America. This is because it is very difficult (More difficult than you think) to find an American woman that can be trusted to raise children the same was as president Barrack Obama, his wife Michael Obama respect the fathers parental rights in a diplomatic friendly manner and not deal with family court and child support. It is generally know that if that is what you want you must stay away from American women and stick to foreign-born women. Any American that will be declared Persona non grata by my relatives in Belgium will also be declared personal no grate in the same private catholic school in the United States. This is high-class society in the United States. Update: Variations of Marriage Strike Due to the fear of predicaments around marriage and divorce, there are also other life style behaviors closely associated with Marriage Strike. - Birth Strike. In some jurisdictions (ie Canada), pregnancy/birth automatically grant your girlfriend the same legal status as a wife. Consequently, men practice Birth Strike with their romantic partner, refusing to allow pregnancy. - Breakup. In some jurisdictions, prolonged co-habitation result in automatic recognition of marital status for legal purposes. Some men routinely breakup to avoid such status. Although it is unclear if they simply enjoy "playing women". - Expatriation. Dissatisfied by the perceived corruption of the local female population, some men intentionally marry women not native to his nation. Some travel to another country for marriage, some marry foreigners on working visa. While this is not a strike to marriage, it is a boycott against the domestic supply of women. Courtesy: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=149553 Actually American men marry foreign women because they are more "accomodating" to men's needs, they tend to be more "forgiving" of men's mistakes AND they are less likely to divorce their husbands at the drop of a hat. Given our numerous options we just don't find American women desirable anymore. As you are aware, the anti- American women sentiment among men runs very very deep in this country - I mean, just look at the countless number of foreign bride and anti-American women websites in the internet, and not to mention the numerous anti-American women threads on Topix. Hon, in this day and age, we American men just don't want you gals anymore. There is no hate among American men here - it's just that we don't find American women desirable anymore and instead, we prefer foreign brides. Why do American women acti so angry and scornful? Don't men have the right to say who they find desirable and who they choose to marry? I don't understand why American women are all up in arms over this discussion - it seems to me that many of you American gals have rather low self-esteem. Misandrists/Feminists will tell you that most foreign women that marry American/Western men are poor, uneducated women who “don’t know any better”. Fact is that the majority are profession women with college degrees. The divorce rate of American men who marry foreign women and bring them to the US is 20% compared with a 60% divorce rate for American men who marry American women. The divorce rate of American men who marry foreign women and move to her country is near 0%. All of the above characterizations by Misandrists/Feminists of foreign women who marry American/Western men are bigoted, hateful, and untrue. Misandrists/Feminists simply hate foreign women because American/Western women can’t compete. But my main point is, one way to not be quiescent is to think about some numbers: American women represent 5% of the global population of women. Chances are, they're at the bottom 5% in terms of quality because they're probably sexist, self-centered and demanding as hell... and they will divorce you at least 45% of the time you marry them, guaranteed. With odds like that, you can't go wrong by looking abroad! Are you lowering your standards or selling-out? Absolutely not! By looking abroad, you're merely widening your search for the finest woman you can possibly find. It allows you to make better decisions. Or, if you're a real gambler and you're willing to risk marrying an American chick, at the very least insist on a prenuptial agreement and talk to a lawyer about what other divorce laws you should be aware of, for Gods' sake. If your fiancée refuses to sign a prenup like mine did, then you'll get an idea of why she's marrying you. It's a sad fact that in America, more than 60% of marriages end in divorce. Even more sad is that roughly 75% of divorces are initiated by the woman over the man's objections (the remaining 25% are either mutually-agreed divorces or divorces initiated by the husband over the woman's objections; those two categories are about half and half within that remaining 25%). These are all conservative numbers, by the way; they've been rounded-down for the sake of simplicity. So, if 60% of marriages end in divorce, and 75% of those are initiated by the woman, we can do the math to combine these percentages: (.75(.6)) x 100 = 45. There is at least a 45% chance that whenever a man gets married to an American woman, the woman will want to divorce him at some point. You have better chances at surviving Russian roulette! My personal observations have been that about 80%-90% of all men that I know of who married foreign women (that they met in a foreign countries that I mentioned, not in the US) report being very happy. Conversely, of the thousands of men that I’ve known in my life who’ve married American women, less than 5% report being happy. When I was a very young man, I thought that all of my friends, guys that I worked with, guys that went to church with, etcetera… guys everywhere were all part of some big conspiracy to scare single guys. After several years of horror stories from friends who confided in me about how miserable they were being married to American women, and my own personal experiences dating American women, I realized that they were telling the truth. After all, guys like to brag about how much sex they are getting and how well their girl friend or wife treats them. Guys do not like to “brag” about getting no sex and being treated badly. They complain about that to other guys, because telling their wife makes things worse, and they have to tell somebody to keep from going in sane. Source Page Included here are many of the facts I use in my articles and radio appearances about fathers.� The facts are in bold and the source or sources are below it.� The facts are not listed in any particular order. Where possible, I’ve included URLs so the reader can go directly to the source and examine it. This page is a work in progress, and I simply have not had the time to refine it as much as I would like.� If readers have� questions about any of these facts and/or sources, feel free to write to me at Glenn@GlennSacks.com. Best Wishes, Glenn Sacks #1: “Two?thirds or more of all divorces involving couples with children are initiated by mothers, not fathers.” Source: Margaret F. Brinig and Douglas A. Allen, “‘These Boots Are Made For Walking”: Why Most Divorce Filers Are Women” American Law and Economics Review 2?1 (2000): 126?169. Source: John Tierney, “A New Look at the Realities of Divorce,” New York Times, July 11, 2000. Source: Sanford Braver, Marnie Whitley, and Christine Ng, “Who Divorced Whom? Methodological and Theoretical Issues,” Journal of Divorce and Remarriage 20, 1993, p. 1. Source: Cathy Young, “The Sadness of the American Father,” The American Spectator,� June 2000.� See http://fact.on.ca/news/news0006/as000601.htm. #2: “A randomized study of 46,000 divorce cases published in the American Law and Economics Review found that in only 6% of cases women claimed to be divorcing cruel or abusive husbands, and that adultery was cited by women as a cause of divorce only slightly more than by men.� Surveys of divorced couples show that the reasons for their divorces are generally a lack of closeness or of “not feeling loved and appreciated.” Source: Margaret F. Brinig and Douglas A. Allen, “These Boots Are Made For Walking”: Why Most Divorce Filers Are Women” American Law and Economics Review 2-1 (2000): 126-169. Source: John Tierney, “A New Look at the Realities of Divorce,” New York Times, July 11, 2000. Source: Beuhler, “Whose Decision Was It?” Journal of Marriage and the Family, Vol. 48, pp 587 – 595, 1987. Source: Cathy Young, “The Sadness of the American Father,” The American Spectator, June 2000.� See http://fact.on.ca/news/news0006/as000601.htm. #3: “Studies show that the overwhelming majority of steadily employed divorced fathers pay their child support. While there are a few well?heeled divorced dads who stiff their children, most non?paying dads are either poor, unemployed, disabled, or incarcerated. According to a US Government Accounting Office report, two?thirds of those fathers who do not pay their child support fail to do so because they are financially unable to do so.” Source: Judi Bartfield and Daniel R. Meyer: “Are There Really Deadbeat Dads? The Relationship Between Ability to Pay, Enforcement, and Compliance in Nonmarital Child Support Cases,” Social Service Review 68, 1994, pp. 219?235. Source: “Deadbeat Dad Image A Myth, Study Finds,”� New York Times,� May 5, 1999.� See: http://sharedparent.freeyellow.com/ddiamsf.pdf.� Look for “Divorced moms reported.” Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, pp. 206?207. Source: Kathleen Parker, “Deadbeat dads more myth than reality,” The Orlando Sentinel, Jan 24 1999. See: http://www.dadi.org/kpdbeat2.htm. Look for “Census Bureau.” #4: “There are almost as many unfaithful wives as there are unfaithful husbands. Research generally estimates that for every five unfaithful husbands, there are four unfaithful wives.” Source: Maggie Scarf, “Intimate Partners: An examination of the underlying architecture of love relationships–the influence of the past, the causes of infidelity, and the systems that couples create,” The Atlantic Monthly, November 1986. The article can be viewed here.� Look for “Emotional Triangles: Infidelity.” Source: John Przybys, “Unfaithfully Yours: Men, women have differing ideas about fidelity,” Las Vegas Review?Journal, March 29, 1998. The article can be found here. Look for “Paul Wulkan.” Source: Jennifer P. Schneider, Richard R. Irons, and M. Deborah Corley, “Disclosure of Extramarital Sexual Activities by Sexually Exploitative Professionals and Other Persons with Addictive or Compulsive Sexual Disorders,” Journal of Sex Education and Therapy 24:277?287, 1999. The article can be found here. Search in the text for the word “infidelity.” #5: “Domestic violence research overwhelmingly shows that women are just as likely as men to initiate and engage in domestic violence, and that only a small percentage of women’s domestic violence is committed in self?defense.� Studies show that women often compensate for their smaller size by their significantly greater use of weapons and the element of surprise.” Source: Richard J. Gelles, Ph.D., “The Missing Persons of Domestic Violence: Male Victims,” The Women’s Quarterly, Fall, 1999. See Gelles. Source: References Examining Assaults by Women on Their Spouses or Male Partners: An Annotated Bibliography by Martin S. Fiebert, Department of Psychology, California State University, Long Beach. See http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm. Source: Patricia Pearson, When She Was Bad: Violent Women & the Myth of Innocence, Penguin Books, 1998, pp. 119?123. Source: David Fontes, “Violent Touch: Breaking Through the Stereotype,” David L. Fontes, Psy.D., CEAP See http://www.safe4all.org/essays/vtbreak.pdf. Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, pp. 91?96. #6: “Official Department of Justice statistics show that men commit 70% of all murder of intimates. However, when other factors are accounted for, including unsolved murders, poisonings mistakenly classified as heart attacks, and contract killings classified as “multiple offender killings,” women have been shown to be at least as likely as men to murder their current or former spouses or intimates.” Source: Dershowitz, Alan M. 1994. The Abuse Excuse: And Other Cop?outs, Sob Stories and Evasions of Responsibility. Boston: Little Brown, pp. 311?313. See the pages “Wives Also Kill Husbands??Quite Often” at http://www.uiowa.edu/~030116/158/articles/dershowitz3.htm. Source:� 1994?95 U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics Publications Catalog, publication #. NCJ 43498, “Murder in Families.” Source: Warren Farrell, Women Can’t Hear What Men Don’t Say, Penguin Putnam Inc, 1999, pp 150?151. Source: This is also explained in detail in my column “Let’s not ‘Learn’ the Same Lessons From Blake That We Learned From OJ” which can be found at http://www.glennsacks.com/lets_not_learn.htm. #7: Most child abuse and parental murder of children is committed by mothers, not� fathers. Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Administration on Children, Youth, and Families, Child Maltreatment 1997: Reports from the States to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System (Washington DC, :GPO, 1999). See: http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/publications/ncands97/s7.htm. Child abuse perpetrators are 62.3% female.� Child fatality perpetrators are 62.8% female. The mother/father ratio is actually greater than this, because many of the male abusers counted are not the biological fathers but instead step?fathers, boyfriends, etc. Source on murders of children by single parents: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, Third National Incidence Study Of Child Abuse and Neglect: Final Report Appendices (Washington D.C., U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, 1997, pp. A?63?A?64.� The estimated total is 264 parental murders of children committed by single custodial mothers and 11 by single custodial fathers.� There are roughly five times as many single custodial mothers as single custodial fathers. Source: Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pp 75-77. #8: Access and Visitation Denial Three-quarters of divorced fathers surveyed maintain that their ex-spouses have substantially interfered with their visitation rights. Source: Joyce A. Arditti, “Factors Related to Custody, Visitation, and Child Support for Divorced Fathers: An Exploratory Analysis,” Journal of Divorce and Remarriage 17, 1992, pp. 34, 39. A study of children of divorce found that 42% of children who lived solely with their mother reported that their mother tried to prevent them from seeing their fathers after the divorce. However, only 16% of children who lived solely with their father reported similar obstruction. Source: Glynnis Walker, Solomon’s Children: Exploding the Myths of Divorce (New York: Arbor House, 1986), p. 83 Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, p. 209. In another study, 40% of divorced mothers admitted that they had interfered with their ex-husband’s access or visitation, and that their motives were punitive in nature and not due to safety considerations. Source: p. 449, col. II, lines 3-6, (citing Fulton) “Frequency of visitation by Divorced Fathers; Differences in Reports by Fathers and Mothers,” Sanford Braver et al, American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 1991. Source: J.A. Fulton, “Parental Reports of Children’s Post-Divorce Adjustment,” Journal of Social Issues 35, 1979, pp. 126-139. Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, p. 209. #9: Prosecutions of fathers who violate child support mandates are common, whereas prosecutions of mothers who violate visitation orders are rare. Source: Neil Chethik, “Law Backs the Right to Parental Visits,” Detroit Free Press, May 28, 1995, p.2J. Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, page 209. #10: The vast majority of accusations of child sexual abuse made during custody battles are false, unfounded or unsubstantiated. Source: Douglas J. Besharov and Lisa A. Laumann, “Child Abuse Reporting,” Social Science and Modern Society, Vol. 33, May/June, 1996, p. 42. Source: Blush, Gordon & Ross, Karol, 1986, The SAID Syndrome. Sterling Heights, MI: Family and Conciliation Courts Review. #11: Nationwide divorced fathers are ten times as likely to commit suicide as divorced mothers, and more than twice as likely to commit suicide as married fathers. Source for divorced fathers vs. married fathers: Augustine J. Kposowa, Ph.D., “Marital Status and Suicide in the National Longitudinal Mortality Study,” Journal of Epidemiology & Community Health, March, 2000, Volume 54, No. 4, pages 254?261 See http://wizard.ucr.edu/~akposowa/Status.pdf. Search for “divorced men.” Source for “10 times as likely” is Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pg. 174 & 279. #12: The rates of juvenile crime, teen pregnancy, teen drug abuse, and school dropouts are tightly correlated with fatherlessness, often more so than with any other socioeconomic factor. Source: The largest predictor of juvenile crime is the presence of a father is from, among others,� “Douglas A. Smith and G. Roger Jajoura, “Social Structure and Criminal Victimization,” Journal of Research in Crime and Delinquency, Vol. 25, Number 1, February 1988, pages 27-52.� In this study children of poor and wealthy families had equal juvenile crime rates if there was a father in the home. Source: The largest predictor of drug use is from, among others, Robert H. Coombs and John Landsverk, “Parenting Styles and Substance Abuse During Childhood and Adolescence,” Journal of Marriage and Family, Vol. 50, May 1988, p. 479, Table 4.� The study considered various factors, including race, social class, gender, etc.,� and father presence was five times more important than any other factor. Source: The teenage pregnancy statistic is from, among others, Frank F Furstenberg, Jr. and Kathleen Mullan Harris, “When and Why Fathers Matter: Impact of Father Involvement on the Children of Adolescent Mothers.” Source: Father presence and education is discussed in Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pp 31-34.� The presence of a father in a child’s life has more impact on a child’s educational achievement, beginning, in early elementary school, than race, social class, gender, etc. #13: Children are 88% more likely to be seriously injured from abuse or neglect by their mothers than by their fathers. Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Administration on Children, Youth, and Families, Child Maltreatment 1997: Reports from the States to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System (Washington DC, :GPO, 1999).� It is discussed in Father and Child Reunion by Warren Farrell, page 76. #14: “Prosecutions of fathers who violate child support mandates are common, whereas prosecutions of mothers who violate visitation orders are rare.” Source: Neil Chethik, “Law Backs the Right to Parental Visits,” Detroit Free Press, May 28, 1995, p.2J. Source: Cathy Young, Ceasefire!: Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality, The Free Press, 1999, page 209. #15: “Fathers have a much better record of paying court-ordered child support than mothers do.” Source: John Siegmund, “Preliminary Analysis of the Database of the DC Office of Paternity and Child Support Enforcement” compiled for the Children’s Rights Council, November 9, 1999. #16: “The government spends $340 on enforcing child support for every $1 it spends on enforcing visitation rights.”� Source: The actual numbers are $3.4 billion on child support enforcement and $10 million on visitation enforcement.� The $3.4 billion figure comes from “Child Support Enforcement is Working Better than We Think” by Elain Sorensen and Ariel Halpern, The Urban Institute, Series A, No 31-A, March 1999, page 4. The $10 million figure comes from The Department of Health and Human Services, “93.597 Grants to States for Access and Visitation Programs.” (http://www.cfda.gov/static/93597.asp) Source: Warren Farrell, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads We Need to the Children We Love, Penguin Putnam Inc, 2001, pp 182-183. #17: Other fathers have suffered at the hands of “move?away moms” who permit or even use geography to drive fathers out of their children’s lives. Source: Maura Dolan, Legal Affairs Writer, “Justices Ease Relocation of Children in Divorce Cases,”� Los Angeles Times, April 16, 1996, p. 1.� Three out of every four custodial mothers move within four years of divorce, for various reasons. #18: “Men win custody in only 10% of contested custody cases” (Note: To avoid confusion: the sources below do not all indicate 10%–some indicate 15 or 20%, some indicate less than 5%.� As a whole, the average is around 10%.) Source: Eleanor E. Maccoby and Robert H. Mnookin, Dividing the Child (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1992), pp. 104-105, 149-150. Source: Stephen J. Bahr, J.D. Howe, M. Morrill Mann, “Trends in Custody Awards: Has the Removal of Maternal Preference Made a Difference?”, Family Law Quarterly, Vol, pp. 247-267, Summer 1994. Source: Wendy Reiboldt and Sharon Seiling, “Factors Related to Men’s Award of Custody,” Family Advocate, Winter 1993, pp. 42-44. Published by the Family Law Section of the American Bar Association. Source: William T. K. Dolan, Esq., Empirical Study of Child Custody in Divorce Decrees in Arlington County, Virginia: July 1, 1989–December 30, 1990, � 1991. Source: Rich Blake, “Father Says System is Unfair to Men in Custody Battles,” Alexander (VA) Gazette Packet, October 22, 1992 . Source: Robert Seidenberg, The Father’s Emergency Guide to Divorce-Custody Battle, JES Books, 1997, pp. 11-15, 60-61. John P. McCahey, J.D., LL.M, et al., Child Custody and Visitation Law and Practice. Matthew Bender, New York. Volume 3, 1983, Section 13.01. #19: The commonly cited factoid that “men win custody half of the time or more when they contest it” is a myth. Source: “Do fathers have the edge in divorce?,” Cathy Young,� Detroit News, December 10, 1996. See: http://www.vix.com/menmag/youngdet.htm. Source: Robert Seidenberg, �The Father’s Emergency Guide to Divorce-Custody Battle, JES Books, 1997, pp. 11-15, 60-61. #20: “According to a long-term study conducted in the United States and in New Zealand and published in Child Development, a father’s absence greatly increases the risk of teen pregnancy. The study found that it mattered little whether the child was rich or poor, black or white, born to a teen mother or an adult mother, or raised by parents with functional or dysfunctional marriages. What mattered was dad.” Source: “Father’s Absence Increases Daughter’s Risk of Teen Pregnancy,” Health Behavior News Service, May 26, 2003 #21: “When Arizona State University psychology professor William Fabricius conducted a study of college students who had experienced their parents’ divorces while they were children, he found that over two-thirds believed that ‘living equal amounts of time with each parent is the best arrangement for children.’ His findings were published in Family Relations in 2003.” Source: Fabricius, W. V. (2003).� Listening to children of divorce: New findings on living arrangements, college support and relocation that rebut Wallerstein, Lewis and Blakeslee (2000).� Family Relations, 52, 385 – 396. #22: “The new report, What About the Dads? Child Welfare Agencies’ Efforts to Identify, Locate, and Involve Nonresident Fathers, examines the foster care systems of four states. The report contains a shocking finding: when fathers inform child welfare officials that they would like their children to live with them, the agencies seek to place the children with their fathers in only 8% of cases.” Source: What About the Dads? Child Welfare Agencies’ Efforts to Identify, Locate, and Involve Nonresident Fathers, The Urban Institute, April 2006. Under the heading “Father Involvement” the Institute notes that half of the nonresident fathers with whom they had been in contact were interested in having their kids live with them, but that in only “4% of cases the child’s case goal was placement with the father.” #23: “According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ new report Child Maltreatment 2004, when one parent is acting without the involvement of the other parent, mothers are almost three times as likely to kill their children as fathers are, and are more than twice as likely to abuse them.” Source: Child Maltreatment 2004, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. According to Figure 4-2 “Perpetrator Relationships of Fatalities, 2004 Child Maltreatment 2004″ here, child fatalities perpetrated by mothers or by “mother and other [not father]” comprise 40.6% of all child fatalities. Figure 4-2 also shows that fatalities perpetrated by fathers or by “father and other [not mother]” comprise 15.6% of all child fatalities. According to Figure 3-6 “Victims by Perpetrator Relationship, 2004 Child Maltreatment 2004,” here child abuse perpetrated by mothers or by “mother and other [not father]” comprise 45.6% of all child abuse. Figure 3-6 also shows that abuse perpetrated by fathers or by “father and other [not mother]” comprise 19.5% of all child abuse. #24: “What About the Dads? makes it clear that many child welfare workers treat fathers as an afterthought. The report found that even when a caseworker had been in contact with a child’s father, the caseworker was still five times less likely to know basic information about the father than about the mother. And 20% of the fathers whose identity and location were known by the child welfare agencies from the opening of the case were never even contacted.” Source: What About the Dads? Child Welfare Agencies’ Efforts to Identify, Locate, and Involve Nonresident Fathers, The Urban Institute, April 2006. In the research summary here the Institute says “One in five fathers whose identity and location were known at case opening were nonetheless never contacted by the child welfare agency.” The Institute also compared the caseworkers’ knowledge of information about the mothers and about the fathers with whom they had been in contact.� They write “Caseworkers much more often answered ‘don’t know’ to questions about a child’s father when they had readily available similar information on the mother. Typically, caseworkers reported not knowing information about mothers 1% to 5% of the time, depending on the item, while for fathers with whom they had been in contact, ‘don’t know’ responses were more often around 15%.” Since the range they gave for mothers was 1% to 5%, I took the middle–3%–and compared it with the figure for fathers, 15%. “According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ new report Child Maltreatment 2004, when one parent is acting without the involvement of the other parent, mothers are almost three times as likely to kill their children as fathers are, and are more than twice as likely to abuse them.” Source: Child Maltreatment 2004, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. According to Figure 4-2 “Perpetrator Relationships of Fatalities, 2004 Child Maltreatment 2004″ here, child fatalities perpetrated by mothers or by “mother and other [not father]” comprise 40.6% of all child fatalities. Figure 4-2 also shows that fatalities perpetrated by fathers or by “father and other [not mother]” comprise 15.6% of all child fatalities. According to Figure 3-6 “Victims by Perpetrator Relationship, 2004 Child Maltreatment 2004,” here child abuse perpetrated by mothers or by “mother and other [not father]” comprise 45.6% of all child abuse. Figure 3-6 also shows that abuse perpetrated by fathers or by “father and other [not mother]” comprise 19.5% of all child abuse. #25: “A study by psychologist Joan Kelly, published in the Family and Conciliation Courts Review,� found that children of divorce ‘express higher levels of satisfaction with joint physical custody than with sole custody arrangements,’ and cite the ‘benefit of remaining close to both parents” as an important factor.’” Source: Kelly, J., Current research on children’s postdivorce adjustment. Family and Conciliation Courts Review, 31.29-49, 1993 #26: “A Harvard University study of 517 families conducted across a four-and-a-half year period measured depression, deviance, school effort, and school grades in children ranging in age from 10 to 18. The researchers found that the children in joint custody settings fared better on these indices than those in sole custody.” Source: Buchanan, C., Maccoby, and Dornbusch, Adolescents After Divorce, Harvard University Press, 1996. #27: “According to psychologist Robert Bauserman’s meta-analysis of 33 studies of children of divorce, which was published in the American Psychological Association’s Journal of Family Psychology, children in shared custody settings had fewer behavior and emotional problems, higher self-esteem, better family relations, and better school performance than children in sole custody arrangements.” Source: Bauserman, R., “Child Adjustment in Joint-Custody Versus Sole-Custody Arrangements:� A Meta-Analytic Review”, Journal of Family Psychology, Vol. 16, No. 1, (2002) 91-102. #28: “Even after controlling for all major socioeconomic factors, including income, teens not living with their fathers were twice as likely to abuse drugs as those living in intact, two-parent married families.” Source: Hoffmann, John P., and Robert A. Johnson. “A National Portrait of Family Structure and Adolescent Drug Use.” Journal of Marriage and the Family 60 (August 1998): 633-645. #29: “A published Harvard review of four major studies found that, accounting for all major socioeconomic factors, children without a father in the home are twice as likely to drop out of high school or repeat a grade as children who live with their fathers.” Source: Sara McLanahan and Gary Sandefur, Growing Up with a Single Parent (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1994), p. 41. The four national surveys reviewed were: The National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, the Panel Study of Income Dynamics, the High School and Beyond Study, and the National Survey of Families and Households. Courtesy: http://glennsacks.com/blog/?page_id=1000

  180. Jessica Alba

    American culture It is in the nature of American culture that makes Americans "stick out" it is generally very hard for Americans anywhere in the world to totally fit in. Europeans have a much better time with this mostly due to proximity. As for integration, Language differences between Belgian and Sicilian, food, climate, and many other factors may make a Belgian stick out in Sicily as well. Integration is not so easy and takes a lot of time. I would be willing to bet that an American of 1st generation Italian/Sicilian would have an easier time integrating then a typical Belgian. In parts of New York City for instance, the Sicilians stick together in the same neighborhoods and speak in Italian etc. They go back and forth to the point where integration would be very easy. As for "fault" it is in the nature of all cultures to be "different" from every other one in terms of food, language, music, arts, life ways, religion etc. That is why we can "identify" one culture from another. People, who live in culturally diverse areas like Europe where they have to interact with each other on a daily basis, tend to be much more open minded and flexible. Americans, by the very nature of the "American melting pot" have taken a different viewpoint "of the greatest nation on the planet", this is accompanied by a certain arrogance which is widely interpreted as demand for more favorable treatment and "sticking out". Europeans will generally be more diplomatic and less problematical because of their upbringing and proximity to so many other cultures. Americans don't get this kind of education, not in school or at home. Just look at the cultural and mentality differences between the Germans and the French. Or between the Greeks and Spaniards. Add to these differences an ocean and the differences can be vast. In Europe, in school you learn at least 2 other languages besides your own. Along with this the in-depth education about the histories and cultures of the different countries. You also learn geography, history, and global interactions in a much more defined way. And it is from a European perspective NOT from a global or American perspective. This is very different from American Education. In the US you learn one language (and not well) you learn history from a global or US perspective with very limited cultural education to go with it. Geography has been lacking for many years but it is making a return. But with a limited view of the impact of the rest of the world on its development. We are also taught that we are the "greatest nation in the world" and that we have rescued the nations of Europe and Asia during WWII and that we are still reigning supreme. With this kind of a world view, it tends to breed a special arrogance that others don't appreciate. And it is these two factors, a lack of in-depth education about other cultures, and the histories of these peoples as well as a defined superiority complex that has lead to this difference in world views. Right, wrong or indifferent, it is what it is. The only way to over come this is through education. I have done this many times during training of Americans being prepared to live and work outside of the US. There are a few other factors that may feed into this as well. For instance, SOME Europeans have a low view of Americans and thus any thing that an American does may be viewed negatively. In some countries, like France, the French may actually go out of their way to demonstrate rudeness to Americans, mis-direct them and speak ill of them to their faces. This kind of behavior can result in double arrogant behavior and this does no one a good turn. So, Americans are no more mature or immature then any one else but it the interaction that can lead to poor behavior on either side and of course law enforcement will tend to back up their own countrymen vs the American. While this is perfectly understandable, it may also be unfair since the American, not aware of the laws or requirements or expectations do make mistakes. Just as Europeans make mistakes in this country for the very same reasons. Massachusetts is considered one of the more liberal states and one in which even Gays and Lesbians can marry. Why it is lowest in divorce rate probably has something to do with a more open interpretation of marriage. Boston and the North East were founded by the English with Dutch, Belgians and Germans and as a result they have a more European facing view in many ways, even after 200 years. And while the crime rate isn't really that much lower, there are areas around Boston that are much higher in crime then the city itself. Again, Mass, is a more liberal state and views things with a different viewpoint (not unlike Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut and Maine). It is the home of Harvard and Yale and many other fine schools that promote international studies and foreign studies. Public form (I would not be surprised if most women from Latin American and Asia have the same profile as European women). Through my company, I haven lucky to have had the opportunity to live in different corners of the world and experience many different cultures. Getting to see multiple cultures ads more knowledge but also sometimes makes you ask questions. While living in Europe I was lucky enough to have meet a very smart and gorgeous women, we dated for a few years when I asked her to marry me. After getting married I was relocated back to the US and my company took care of the paperwork and she moved with me. One of the things that I can say happened personally to me and to some other co-workers is that we started preferring dating European women and no longer even consider dating American women. Trying to figure out the cultural difference's between European and American womens to try to figure out "Why?", why we don't date American women. So we decided to post a topic to find out more. Here is a comparison of what we have come up with, again this are just general and some of them might be a stereotype. But that is why we want to discuss them here. - Most European women are very Independent, they want to have some life outside of the relationship. American women want to do everything as a couple. - Most European women prefer to be financially responsible, like they would rather pay for their own dinner when in the US, its automatically expected that guys have to buy gifts and pay for dinner. - European women prefer to be healthy, have very active lifestyle. Going to the gym, biking and walking is the thing to do. I am not saying that all American women are not into a healthy lifestyle but its certainly a small percentage in comparison. Unfortunately for some of my friends who married American women once they got married they gained weight... blaming it on childbirth and things like that when I can say for a fact from my and my friends European wifes that after child birth after some months they where back to their previous weight without even trying but just because of their healthy lifestyle. - In Europe, its common for couples to live together and of course have sex before they are married, I think thats great because you get to know what it is to marry someone, no surprises. But I noticed in America that is a taboo specially around Christian's who look down at those who live together or are sexually active with their loved ones before they are married. How can someone make a lifetime commitment before knowing what they are getting into. The guys I work with have discussed this greatly, which I think its great to know people I can be that comfortable with the only negative thing that has come out of it is that we have discussed this with other's at work who have divorced their American Wife and re-married European. I don't think thats cool but they are happier now. All I can say is that I am madly in love with my wife, my wife means everything to me. Courtesy: http://www.topix.com/forum/business/online-dating/T05BKAV2C9UKNM5F5 Having served many years overseas as an American diplomat, I remained single and dated both Asian and European women. Those were the best years of my life! When I returned to the U.S. in 2005, oh what a culture shock to see how these American women are loud, rude, fat, stuckup, and use their bodies as instruments of negotiation to get what they want. I will never ever date American women again, and as "we" speak I am seeking an Asian lady from abroad who hasn't been contaminated by the typical feministic brainwashing that has destroyed so many young men in this country. Men, leave these American women while you still can. American women, we know you cannot stand the foreign competition from abroad. Courtesy: http://www.topix.com/forum/business/online-dating/T05BKAV2C9UKNM5F5/p10

  181. Jessica Alba

    Why do some American/Western Women Hate Women from Ukraine? Posted on March 14, 2011 by Krystyna in Ukrainian Dating Tips Today I decided to write about something I usually avoid writing about. It’s not about relationships between Ukrainian women and Western men; it is not about love and cultural differences. It is about hatred and being envious of others. I always try to give my best and help people to be happy. When I talk about love and happiness, I do not really care what nationality a person is. The most important thing is that we understand each other well. krystyna 202x300 Why do some American/Western Women Hate Women from Ukraine? Krystyna On my Ukrainian Dating blog I write explicitly about Ukrainian women and the Ukrainian dating culture. Despite the fact that I live abroad, as you may already know I was born in Ukraine and I’ve been on both sides of the fence. Speaking from my experience, I can say, many Western men have difficulties with finding the right woman for marriage and life from Eastern Europe (in our case, from Ukraine). My blog is over 6 months old and mostly I get positive reactions to what I write about. I get many requests and questions about the Ukrainian culture, dating, and of course, about Ukrainian women. I get harsh e-mails as well in which certain readers express their criticism and say that what I do seems wrong to them. I think that’s okay and in such a way I can learn something from these reactions as I want to improve my blog. But lately, I started getting really insulting mails from an American woman. The lady does not write her name; she calls herself “Furious” every time she leaves a comment on my blog. She mistakenly thinks that “Ukrainian and Russian women sell themselves as SEX in a box for a fee”. And she desperately hopes that Ukrainian and Russian women will continue living in their home countries and will stay away from all American men. So to make it clear to everyone, I have nothing against American, German, English or Canadian women. But I have no desire or intention to write about them. My goal, as said above, is the Ukrainian dating culture as well as cross-cultural relationships between Russian and Ukrainian women and Western (not just American) men. I am wondering why this woman shows so much hatred and is so envious of Ukrainian and Russian women. Is she unhappy? Or she hasn’t found a partner for life yet? Or perhaps, she feels threatened by the beauty and femininity of Ukrainian and Russian women? I don’t know. I can say only one thing: if Western men were so happy with their (German, American or English) women, would they look for women from Ukraine, Russia, Poland or Thailand? I don’t think so. If American women cannot make their men happy they have to look for the right woman in foreign countries. There will always be problems and uncertainties about different cultures, languages, traditions and mentalities. And it’s the purpose of my blog to help people to overcome cultural stereotypes, help them to understand foreign cultures and just to be happy with women who will genuinely love them. Until I will report about these topics on my blog. Love, Krystyna Ukrainian Dating Blog Courtesy: http://ukrainiandatingblog.com/2011/03/americanwestern-women-hate-women-ukraine/

  182. Jessica Alba

    Erik Lacitis / Times staff columnist Stay away, American Woman, say British men We always bring you the news that matters. The news this time is that in the late summer heat in England, pretty much every newspaper and media outlet has covered the British Guys versus North American Women controversy. Now, I need to warn you in advance that today's column will be about sex, relationships, what guys want, what women want, and so if you wanted a discussion of mass-transit issues, go elsewhere. Recent headlines in London have included this kind of thing: "The tragic ineptitude of the English male." (The Spectator). "British men appear scared to ask me out, says Paltrow." (The Daily Telegraph quoting actress Gwyneth Paltrow in London to do a play.) "What's up with U.S. women?" (The Guardian). At the George & Dragon Pub in Fremont, you can always find some British single guys, now living in Seattle because they wanted to try someplace different or because they had read about the high-tech opportunities here in Microsoftland (ha-ha). This week I found a couple of Brits and read them excerpts of what started the controversy. They politely listened about their alleged failings. I explained that it started with a Canadian writer, Leah McLaren, who lived in London for a few months. She wrote in The Spectator that her American female roommate told her: "The first thing you should know about English men is that what they secretly want most in the world is to be with other English men." McLaren said that after a dozen dates, she concluded the "modern English male knows little to nothing about courtship, and what he does know frightens him." She then sent out this blast: "a) Many went to boarding school at an early age, thus forfeiting essential affection from their mothers, leaving them all but incapable of intimacy with women. "b) Many drink too much, leaving them all but incapable of intimacy with women. "c) They are repressed homosexuals. "d) They simply don't like women." Needless to say, reserved and polite as they may be, British guys didn't take too kindly to that assessment. Then, Gwyneth Paltrow, the skinny, glacial 29-year-old actress, was quoted about her experiences in London. She said she was asked out for dates only a couple of times. She said, "If someone asks you out they're really going out on a limb, whereas in America it happens all the time. ... Yet in Britain, mostly what happens seems to be that people meet at work. If there's a little something there, then they hang out together and, all of a sudden, they're boyfriend and girlfriend." (Although now, given all the London news stories, Paltrow is adding, "I happen to adore British men and I adore Britain.") Steve Sheldon, 26, who grew up in Birmingham and came to America 2-½ years ago to work in computers, graciously listened to this itemization of the British male's faults as we sat in the pub. Then I read to him excerpts of what his male countrymen who had lived in the U.S. had to say about American women. One came from James Brown, 36, a London magazine editor: "American Women. You can only spend so long with one before you crack. They're out there, they're loud, they're bitter and they're kooky. After a while all the things that attracted you to them: confidence, conversation, nice teeth, begin to bug you. You think you've got Black Beauty and you end up with Mr. Ed." And so Steve tells me that, well, yes, he had a bit of getting used to in the American dating scene. It's not that he hasn't found love in the U.S. of A. It's been a little over a week since he really fell for Vicki Milby, 22, who is 100 percent American. Anyway, Steve says that he had to get used to knowing that American women reserve the right to date a whole bunch of guys at the same time. It's not like that in England. There, when you really like a girl (and pardon me, but English guys don't say "women," they talk about dating a girl), then you don't go out with half a dozen others. And something else. That first date with an American girl, it's like it's supposed to be a big-time dinner, instead of just going to a pub with friends. So you end up dropping like $90 while she's doing her checklist. I talk to Vicki, and she tells me she thinks American women can come across as a bit too much. "They want to be equal so much it can be overpowering," she says. Vicki also tells me one thing that Brit guys have going for them: "They have that sexy accent," she says. "That definitely helps." Then there is Martin, 42, who grew up in Bristol. He's been in the U.S. for three years and is six months out of a divorce. He'd rather not have his last name in the paper, what with his ex still around and all that. I read Martin what his countrymen say about American women, and he totally agrees. (He also has found that a British accent is a fantastic woman magnet here.) But that American Woman! Mama, let me be! One of the first questions is always: "What car do I drive?" Martin says. "If I have the latest BMW or drive a Chevy, does it make a difference? And they want to know what apartment you live in. Do you live in Bellevue, because if you tell them you live in Everett, they don't want to know you." Here is a final comment in the Daily Mail from Oliver Bennett, 43, remembering a dinner-date with an American woman: "It was like being with a nasty bank manager, rather than someone with whom you hope to sleep. ... American girls are possibly the most wound-up people on the planet. They don't believe in laughing: Instead, they would go to 'laugh class' to find out how, then solemnly say it had changed their life." Well, there you are. American woman, what have you got to say? Erik Lacitis: 206-464-2237 or elacitis@seattletimes.com. Courtesy: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20020905&slug=erik05

  183. Jessica Alba

    Dating, love and feminism: do men prefer submissive women? Deborrah Cooper , SF Dating Advice Examiner October 29, 2009 An English professor wrote the words: "Woman without her man is nothing" on the blackboard and directed the students in his class to punctuate the phrase correctly. The males wrote: "Woman, without her man, is nothing." The females wrote: "Woman! Without her, man is nothing." How many men have ever been truly challenged by women to question their deeply ingrained sense of entitlement to and superiority over women? The National Organization for Women (NOW) founded on this date in 1966, launched an organized fight against the socialization and stereotypes which limited opportunities and possibilities for women. Though 40 years have passed and great progress has taken place, many men continue to feel that a woman who describes herself as "a feminist" is a male basher that hates men. To these fellows, a woman who would dare upset the well established imbalance of power by requesting an equal share, respect and opportunities for females is viewed as someone whose goal is to destroy the family, and men in particular. Nothing could be further from the truth. Taking a stand against male oppression and fighting for a woman to have the right to say "No!" to you and make choices that suit her does not mean that such a woman is against you. Being pro-woman does not mean that one is anti-male. According to the dictionary, feminism is "the movement for the full social, political and economic equality of all people." When viewed in those terms, how could any decent man be against the feminist movement? For thousands of years, society has been constructed to place men in a position of superiority over women. Our social structure has placed males in control, which means men have conveniently had things their way for generations. Men have been judge jury and executioner over what is right and wrong for women and girls. From the way we dress, how we wear our hair, what we can say, where we "should be" and what we do with our bodies sexually have been dictated by men for generation upon generation. The emotional, sexual, and psychological stereotyping of females begins when the doctor says, "It's a girl." ~Shirley Chisholm When men get together, it is common to hear them lament the loss of the "old days" when women 'knew their role" and understood "the natural order of things" as they relate to women subjugating themselves to men. Sighing, they reflect fondly on the 1950s and 1960s, a time when women "took pride in wearing an apron, cooking, and being stay-at-home housewives." On numerous occasions men have expressed to me the belief that all hell broke loose in America when the feminist movement came into being in the 1970s. Feminism has been blamed not only for the dysfunction in my own Black community, but for the collapse of every institution in the nation such as churches, schools, families and communities due to the distortion of gender roles brought about by feminists. Gloria Steinem's statement: "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" is often referred to as a declaration of gender war. It should be expected that men will resist and resent any female that would have the gall to say that the old way is not benefitting her, and that she has no interest in participating in that system. Men don't seem to understand that prior to the 1970s, women were socialized to not expect much for themselves. Being a wife and mother was pretty much ALL that women were expected to be, to do, and to achieve. Even college educated women that could have contributed a great deal to our culture and society were silenced by the weight of the patriarchy which mandated that they stay at home, raise babies and have a home-cooked dinner on the table at 6:00 p.m. sharp. Women were depressed, miserable, lonely and unfulfilled, but men somehow fail to see that. As long as their needs were being met and their fantasies fulfilled, they are happy. You don't believe that being at home with children all day is stressful and anxiety provoking? Think of Andrea Yates as a perfect example of the chokehold women were in, unable to breathe from enduring the burden of the thankless social role stay at home mothering can be when forced upon you by the tenet of "female submission." Submission: (1) the act of submitting, yielding, or surrendering; (2) the quality or condition of being submissive; resignation; obedience; meekness; (3) the act of submitting to the authority or control of another: "Oppression that cannot be overcome does not give rise to revolt but to submission" (Simone Weil); (4) the condition of having submitted to the power of someone else; (5) the condition of being submissive, humble, or compliant. Male superiority is nothing but a tool men use to control women, to make women predictable and malleable so that men can feel more secure about what a woman does with her body. That is the whole purpose of all these rules and the desire for a "submissive" woman you know… to provide the male with sexual services when he wants them, and assurances that the female body he calls his really is under his power and control. It is of utmost importance that he knows where his body is at all times, who has access to it, and that no one is getting in it but him. Sadly, many women fail to question their belief in male superiority as well. Brainwashed by their fathers and pastors, deacons and teachers to believe that the only way they can acquire the love of a man and marry, they hang tightly to the belief that it is not in a woman's nature to lead, effect change, or stand up and be heard. Understand ladies: it is not in a woman's "nature" to be anything but great and powerful self-actualizing citizens of the world. Yet various cultures and religions have limited female options and choices based strictly on gender. Women of today, their mothers, and their mother's mothers have all been socialized by men to believe that men are superior and that women should subjugate themselves to males, but that is nothing but a lie. Women's chains have been forged by men, not by anatomy. ~Estelle R. Ramey Women are powerful, smart, strong creatures, emotionally resilient, caring, and in touch with themselves and others emotionally. Women are by far the stronger of the sexes in every way but physically. No woman, and especially Black women, has the need to be submissive to men on any level at any time. And should you meet a man that believes the only way the two of you can have a "happy relationship" is for you to submit and turn over your power to him, you need to seriously consider passing on that guy. Where would his quest for power and control over you end? Men have become so power-mad that they refuse to allow their woman to wear certain clothes, hang out with her friends, or even to wear makeup. They refuse to allow her to work outside the home, have her own money, or go back to school as he decides what is best for her and what he wants to happen with HIS woman. Giving into to submissiveness would mean that he feels powerful and in control as you slowly allow him to chip away at your self-worth. To make him shine you hide the parts of yourself that you love and that make you YOU, just so he can feel good about himself and his shaky sense of manhood. At some point men must make an effort to understand that having a penis gives them no special powers, no increased abilities, no more knowledge or experience, nothing more than women have. You are not more than a woman. You are not superior in any way. You are the opposite of women, but you are not better, you are not smarter, you are not faster at anything either. You are just a male. And that does not entitle you to any special privileges or rights or treatment just because you are. Women, know this: your power is not in submission; your power is in your resilient spirit, in your joyful heart, in your intelligence, and in your soul as a woman. Your power is in your sense of accomplishment and the benefit you bring to your family, your community and the world. Do not ever let a man convince you to submit to him because he demands it or because he feels it is his rightful position in your life. Surrendering your power and self to the control of men unconditionally will damage and possibly destroy the very essence of your spirit, the very thing that makes you the strong, confident and wonderful woman that you are. Courtesy: http://www.examiner.com/dating-advice-in-san-francisco/dating-love-and-feminism-do-men-prefer-submissive-women Feminism | Posted by Kirsten M on 07/14/2010 Unnatural Causes: Feminism and Health Care race and accessibility to health care: there IS a link accessibility to health care: affected by race and class? Health care reform is on everyone’s radar these days after we’ve watched Obama’s plan go through change after change before being passed this year. It’s been on my radar as a feminist because of the ways that it affects women and their bodies, especially pertaining to the right to choose. Recently, though, a new aspect of healthcare in the U.S. has been brought to my attention that I’m very concerned about, and I was looking for the feminist community’s reaction. The disturbing aspect is this: unequal societies have worse health outcomes than healthier societies no matter their health care systems. Unequal is defined as having a larger gap between the rich and the poor. The data are represented in a bazillion places – life expectancy, maternal and infant mortality, the list goes on. The website based on a PBS video talks about this issue, especially how it pertains to the U.S., who is consistently ranked LOW, LOW, LOW on the health scale despite our huge economic power. Unnatural Causes Trailer And the facts about United States Health Care… Per person, the U.S. spends more than twice the average of other industrialized countries on health care – 16% of our GDP in 2006 – yet has some of the worst health outcomes: worse than 28 other countries in life expectancy (including Jordan) and 29 other countries in infant mortality (including Slovenia). People in the highest income group can expect to live, on average, at least six and a half years longer than those in the lowest. Even those in the middle (families of four making $41,300 to $82,600 a year in 2007) will die, on average, two years sooner than those at the top. College graduates can expect to live at least five years longer than those who have not finished high school, and almost two years longer than those who didn’t finish college. For all the rich countries for which there is data, the U.S. has: - the highest infant mortality rate - the highest homicide rate - the highest teenage birth rate - the highest incarceration rate (we house one fourth of the world’s prisoners) - the highest child poverty rate - the highest child injury death rate - the greatest gap between high and low mortality rates within a country - the highest number of people living alone - the highest poverty rate - the most hours worked (except for New Zealand) - the smallest middle class - the largest wealth gap between the rich and the rest of the population - the lowest voter turnout As we as feminists know, the people who are often the victims of this health inequality are people of color and the poor. And, as feminists, our goal is the destruction of dominating power structures and the elimination of inequality. What is the community’s response to the knowledge that our health care is ineffective? That being a person of color in the U.S. kills? How can a feminist community respond as allies? Courtesy: http://thefbomb.org/2010/07/unnatural-causes-feminism-and-healthcare/

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    The reason why Tiger Woods has two US born American children with a Swedish/European born women not an American women is because most Americans who are raised by European born mothers can be trusted and can properly present them selves abroad for the same reason Barrack Obama/Michelle Obama (same mentality) and US Diplomats that work for the US State Department can and should be very well liked in countries that that say in the open that hate Americans and have no respect for Americans because people in those countries think they are born in Europe/Sweden (do not show any thing American that people in other countries do not like). Ninety percent of this can only be learned based on how you are raised by your mother when you are an infants/toddlers/children, and cannot be taught in school. It would be socially unacceptable to the family of Elin Nordegren in Sweden if that were not the case. Tiger Woods also does not want to deal with ugly divorces and child custody/court ordered child support battles that American women are world wide famous for. Elin Nordegren respects Tiger Woods parental rights in a diplomatic friendly manner and he pays child support in a diplomatic friendly manner. Educated Americans like Tiger Woods know that European women do things the way you are supposed to. Also almost every single American you see walking in the United States would be hated outside the United States, 100 percent because of the way they are raised by their American parents when they are infant/toddler/child.

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    For example an American man born and raised the 1970’s in Texas with a German mother, the French taught think he was born in Germany when he visit France 30 years later for work/business (no American influence). A few years earlier I saw a 12-year-old girl with her Germany mother at work. I thought she was from Germany, because she is not more Americanized than an average German child that has never been to the USA and her German mother. That was the first thing I noticed when I saw her with her German mother. I also noticed that she is better behaved than most American children/adults and has a better relationship with mother than most American children and she was speaking German to her mother. She told me that when she visits Germany it is impossible to tell that she is an American (born in the USA). Her German mother conformed that that is correct. A German corporate officer told me in the United States, the reason this is the case is because a German mother raises her children the same way she was raised and this can be done in the United States just as easily as in Germany. There for it would appear that he/she is born in Germany even if they are born United States and it is impossible to tell that they are born in the United States. According to her German mother she has the skills to Germany live in Germany as easily as her German parents can and can be equally be trusted as her mother. This is how a German father who works for a European company in the United States expects his daughter to be raised by her German mother. This is because his daughter needs to have the skills to live in Germany if they ever decide to move back to Germany in the future even if she becomes an adult. That is why he married a German woman not an American woman. This girl should only marry German man (just like her father) when she becomes an adult, and probably can’t handle American man. This is because a German mother will make sure that her daughter has the skills to live in Germany, provided she is the primary care giver since birth and makes sure her daughter sees no American influence that people in Germany do not like. Eastern European born women who hate American women would like this child even if they know she is born in the United States. This is because she has the skills to live Europe/Germany as easily as her German mother can and is impossible to tell that she is born in the United States and when she visits Europe, and think she is born in Germany. This is why Eastern European women tell European man and there US born American sons to marry European born women and stay away from American women.

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    No Marriage NoMarriage.com Fourth Edition Copyright © 2005 Jon Hertzog All rights reserved. Please only read this book on your computer and/or print it out for yourself. Please do not forward this book to your friends. Ask them to buy their own copy by going to www.noMarriage.com. I spent a good part of the last 5 years researching this book and I would like to continue working on this project. I can only do that if I get paid for the book. No part of this book may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording or by any information storage and retrieval system, without prior written permission in writing from author of this book. 2 TABLE OF CONTENTS Ch 1 - Marriage statistics. “Modern Western Women”. 3 Ch 2 - Why marriages to American women fail 6 Ch 3 - Most American men get married for the "wrong" reasons 8 Ch 4 - Determine if YOU want children in the near future 9 Ch 5 - You decided that you do NOT want children in the near future 11 Ch 6 - You decided that you want children in the next few years 12 Ch 7 - Travel to Latin America, Eastern Europe, 13 or Asia at least once a year Ch 8 - Will your girlfriend make a good wife? 15 Ch 9 - My girlfriend will not make a good wife. Now what? 21 Ch 10 - Suckers, Fuckers, and the truth about how 22 American women get married Ch 11 - Why marriage to American woman no longer makes sense 25 Ch 12 - Do not get into relationship and marriage 26 discussions with American women Ch 13 - The biggest costs in marriage are initiated by women 28 but have to be paid for by men Ch 14 - Men's responsibility is an obsolete concept 30 Ch 15 - Unmarried men will live longer and happier lives 31 Stress in married men’s lives Ch 16 - Western women and their Psychological/Mental problems 34 Ch 17 - Are you better off living by yourself? 35 Ch 18 - "Monogamy is only due to a man's failure in business" 36 JP Getty Ch 19 - Research shows that marriage makes men literally dumber 37 Ch 20 - Financial planning for single men 38 Ch 21 – Living together with a girlfriend 40 Ch 22 – Things to do before you get married 41 Ch 23 - Frequently asked questions 42 Ch 24 - Marriage and relationship quotes 45 Ch 25 – List of the best US Cities for single men 46 Ch 26 - Final thoughts 48 3 Chapter 1 Marriage statistics. “Modern Western Women”. Thank you for buying No Marriage. Let me start by defining a concept of a “modern western woman”. A modern western woman typically either lives or moves to a big (usually coastal) city, stays single until her late 20s (sometimes until her mid 30s), then starts looking for a "suitable" husband. The main (pretty much the only) reason she is looking for a husband is because she wants children and a nice house, and she can not afford them by herself. Plus she is starting to think that working kind-of sucks and she is considering cutting down to part-time or stopping working altogether once she finds a husband. Most of the content in this book and nomarriage.com website is about modern western women. The very discouraging marriage statistics is that 4 out of 5 men regret marrying: · Divorce rate in America is now around 55%. (The main reason the divorce rate has not been increasing over the last 5-10 years is because less people get married in the first place.) · Majority of remaining married men are stuck in sexless marriages with nagging and bitching wives, but they choose not to divorce because they are afraid of being wiped out financially during divorce. You put the two together and at least 4 out of 5 married men (80%) either get divorced or trapped in miserable marriages. Will you be one of the lucky 1 out of 5 men who is relatively happy with marriage? Not likely unless you and your future wife live your lives largely outside the mainstream American values and your wife is not a "modern western woman". My research shows that the following groups of people make up the majority of the relatively happy marriages (the majority of that 20% of relatively happy marriages): 1. Very religious people. A lot of people in the US consider themselves to be religious, and that's fine. But for the purpose of this book very religious people have to be defined as people who strictly follow (and I do mean follow, not just talk about it) some form of traditional/conservative ideology as it relates to men/women and marriage. Think of a typical "modern western woman" as defined above. Then think of a traditional young Mormon woman from a very strict family (I am only using Mormon as an example, it can be any conservative religion). Now think about those two women as being on 4 the opposite sides of the spectrum. Women I am talking about here are women on the traditional/conservative side of the spectrum. 2. People living in the rural South and rural Midwest. Women there tend to be a lot less materialistic, self-centered, anti-male, and mentally unstable. Men there also tend to be in charge of their lives and they don’t put up with any BS from women. Sometimes I get emails from men who are lucky enough to genially not understand what all the fuss is about. These men say that their wives are great, then they say they don’t spend much time with their wives and spend their free time hunting, riding a Harley, doing things like that. If I ask them about their wives, it always turns out that their wives are closer to 50s housewives than to modern western women. Perhaps a more accurate way to classify this group would be “people from mostly rural areas who marry early”. Not everyone in this group is in the South or Midwest. There are plenty of women like that living 150 miles from Manhattan. And not all women who marry early are from the rural areas; but for the sake of simplicity I will lump them all under this umbrella. What matters is that these women marry early and usually stay married unless something really serious goes wrong. They also marry for "love" or for idealistic reasons if you want to call it that. Another way to look at it is that they choose their future husbands almost accidentally or randomly. They basically marry whoever happens to ask them on a date when they are 17-19yo, who seems nice and treats them well. So whoever becomes their first or second serious boyfriend is likely to become their husband. The conventional wisdom (at least the one that modern western women subscribe to) is that these types of marriages are not likely to work out. But in actuality they have a very reasonable chance of working out quite well. The biggest potential risk with these marriages is that people may change a lot between they are 17-22 and 28-35 years old. A man may end up with drinking/drugs problem and/or beating up his wife. Or he may just become lazy and complacent. A woman may become lazy, uninterested in anything, spending the whole day literally sitting on a couch eating ice cream and watching TV. A few years of sitting on a couch and she is 100 lbs overweight often with drugs/alcohol addiction. Some women in this group also evolve into high-maintenance, demanding, and bitchy over time. But a lot of these marriages work out well. If both parties continue treating each other well and continue putting some effort into their relationship and appearance, and if the woman does not evolve into a high-maintenance bitch, then the marriage will probably work out fine. That's a lot of ifs, but at the end a 5 reasonable percentage of these marriages turn out well, which is still a lot better than close to zero percent of good marriages with modern western women as the rest of the book will show. 3. People choosing to live a simple lifestyle. People practicing "simple living" live their lives largely outside the mainstream consumer society. There is a big difference between people choosing to live simple lifestyle and people who are "poor". People choosing simple lifestyle often live below their means and focus on what they consider "qualities of life" issues or other non-material issues that are important to them rather than on accumulation of material wealth. The “simple living” people are a hard group to define because they come from different backgrounds. Some people in this group are aging hippies, environmentalists, Dean supporters types. Some are more of survivalists, traditional conservatives, Pat Buchanan types. What they have in common regarding their marriages is that they are not trying to keep up with the Joneses so-to-speak, so they have a lot less financial pressures on their marriages. Many men in the socialist/Dean supporters part of this group are also unfortunately complete pansies for the lack of a better word. Their wives are "strong feminists" and have complete control of their relationship, but the men are not necessary unhappy with that, almost in a masochistic way. It's somewhat of a peculiar situation to say the least. But this group is slowly dying. Almost all young "liberal feminists" today end up becoming "modern western women" with a big SUV and all that. The conservatives and survivalists in this group often overlap with rural and more religious people. Men in this group have a decent chance of having a good marriage if they find the right woman. At least men in this group are very unlikely to end up with a modern western woman, so in a way they are lucky to avoid the most cancerous (and the largest by far) group of women without even trying. 4. Recent (mostly Hispanic) immigrants. They were raised in more traditional cultures. You have to look outside the US (and the west) if you want a wife from this culture. There are not many single women immigrants in the US. Almost all immigrants are single men or families. If you are a normal American guy living in a large metropolitan area marrying a normal college-educated American woman who is looking for the American dream (a nice house, kids, good life), then realistically you probably have over 95% chance of either getting divorced or trapped in a miserable marriage. 6 Chapter 2 Why marriages to American women fail. The main reason marriages to American women fail is because American women have completely unrealistic expectations as to what they are going to get out of marriage. When they don't get everything they expect, they decide that men are not doing their jobs, and try to trade up. Typical American woman is raised to be extremely spoiled and selfcentered. She is raised as a spoiled brat who has spent her entire life either being completely catered to, or otherwise having her every whim and want fulfilled in the moment. Not bad, but not effective training in weathering problems that arise in every marriage. When an American woman gets married and has children in her 30s, her life inevitably changes for the worse. She now has a lot more responsibilities and things to worry about. She is getting older and less attractive. She is getting bored with her marriage. American woman will always start resenting her "boring" married life and consequently resenting her "boring" husband. Other important contributing factors to why marriages fail are women’s depression, psychological disorders, and Postpartum depression (devastating mood disorder many women get after giving birth). 80% of American mothers get at least "short term" form of Postpartum depression. Symptoms of Postpartum depression read like the list of things that are wrong with American women taken from my book and website - anxiety, sadness, despair, feelings of worthlessness or guilt, loss of interest in sex, difficulty concentrating, fatigue for no reason, becoming fat, recurrent thoughts of death or suicide, etc... See www.nomarriage.com/postpartum_depression.html for more information. Postpartum depression could be the main reason American women get bored with their marriages. The percentage of women having Postpartum depression is 80%, the same percentages of marriages where men either get divorced or trapped. Depression is basically a big gray area in medical science. Definition of who is suffering from depression is subjective and arbitrary. I simply do not see how a woman can have the above symptoms for a few weeks after giving birth, and then become magically "normal" the following week when all the underlying reasons for her depression are still there and often get worse. The reason American women get Postpartum depression is because a woman starts realizing that the baby comes with added stress, time commitments, responsibilities, financial responsibilities, etc... A 7 woman starts thinking that her previous care-free, responsibilityfree, and stress-free life is over forever. Raising children today is stressful, time-consuming, and costly the first few weeks, the first few months, the first few years, and the next 15+ years. American women are always told that they are perpetual victims, and everything that is wrong with their lives is men's fault and never their own fault. It is no wonder American women start blaming their husbands, and making their husbands feel like they are responsible for all the symptoms of her Postpartum depression. So American women transition from seemingly "nice" women to sexless nagging bitches and never look back. Men go into a marriage with hardly any expectations: "I'm 33, too old to meet girls in bars every weekend, and nothing better is likely to come along. Besides, it will at least get Allison to stop dropping hints about a ring...." He may actually find that the occasional hot meal and regular affection is not so bad. Women have ridiculously high expectations, dreams and plans: "First we'll have a baby, it will be just SOO kee-yut, I mean Steve would look so adorable as a daddy, then we'll have to buy a nice house and an SUV for the baby, and I'll ask Steve to sell his motorcycle and stop hanging out with Sid, I mean Sid was probably a lot of fun in college, but he's a little strange and enough is enough..." Which of the two, Steve or Allison, is being set up for disappointment? 8 Chapter 3 Most American men get married for the "wrong" reasons. Children - the only right reason to get married. The only "right" reason to get married is if you determined that YOU want to raise children in the near future and you need to find a woman who will make a good mother and wife. Very few men get married for the right reason. Most American men get married for the following 3 reasons, all of them wrong reasons: 1. Pressure from girlfriend to get married. By far the most common reason. After a couple of years of dating most women will start putting pressure on a guy to get married. Pressure can range from open ultimatums (let's set up a wedding date or else I am leaving) to subtle hints and everything in between. A guy starts thinking that he'd better propose or she'll probably leave and he eventually figures "what the hell, I am over 30 and she seems OK. Might as well get married". A guy does not really want to get married and does not want to have children at this time, but he goes ahead with both because his girlfriend is pressuring him. 2. Pressure from society, parents, etc... Society and parents still put a lot of pressure on men to get married, "settle down", and have children by 30 or so. Society pressure and girlfriend pressure often go hand-in-hand. 3. A woman gets pregnant, accidentally or maliciously. Men will often marry a woman after she "accidentally" gets pregnant, even though he does not really want to be married. Here is how men usually get married: 1. Girl pressures guy for marriage. 2. Guy delays. 3. Girl gradually starts destroying guy's self-esteem and eliminating his friends. 4. Guy becomes too weak and too much of a loser to find something better than what he has. 5. Girl starts to limit sex. In effect controlling the only good thing in the guy's life. 6. Guy is in despair. Capitulates to marriage. If you are marrying because of girlfriend or societal pressure, or because a girl got pregnant, then you are not really doing what YOU want to do with your life, but rather going with the flow and being a TOOL to circumstances. Marriages that start out for the wrong reasons are almost guaranteed to fail. 9 Chapter 4 Determine if YOU want children in the near future. You need to determine if YOU want children in the next few years. Do not talk to your girlfriend when determining if you want children. You need to determine if YOU want to spend the next 20 years of your life being responsible for raising children. There is an unspoken taboo in our society, where if you admit that having kids wasn't quite what you thought it would be, and that if you could do it all over again that you would have chosen NOT to have kids, then you are an evil, despicable monster. The truth is a large percentage of parents HATE being parents. They will never say it out loud and they can't even admit that to themselves because "only an evil demon" would come to that conclusion, they think. Children literally turn your life upside down. Marriage, sex life, your wife's appearance, your social life, the list goes on and on and on. Forget dressing your daughter in pretty clothes, or playing catch with your son. Think about being awaken at 2 a.m. by a sick, screaming kid who just threw up all over the bed, and who doesn't give a shit that you have to get up for work in four hours. Talk to every father you know (preferably people close to your age). Ask them what it's really like to have children. Ask them what changes they made to their lives after they had children. Ask them how much time children take. Ask them how much effort and energy children take. Ask them how stressful it really is to raise children. Ask them how much children cost them. Do not ask them if they are glad they had children. Nobody will admit to being unhappy even if they are. Then determine if you want the next 20 years of your life to change the way their lives changed. It should be a yes or no answer. Children will change your life. You need to decide if you want these changes in advance. And please make this decision by yourself. You'll be responsible for your children, so the decision is entirely yours. Don't overlook the financial aspect. One child today costs $300K-$600K to raise. You will have to commit to earning at least $20K per year per child for the next twenty years. Let's break down the costs of raising just one child: · You'll need an extra bedroom. At $500/month, that's $120,000 over 20 years. · Food and clothing will be $200/month - $48,000 over 20 years. 10 · Healthcare is another $100/month - $24,000 over 20 years. · Then there is travel, babysitting, and all the misc. expenses - let's say $300/month - $72,000 over 20 years. · Now we are near $300,000 over 20 years, and we did not even talk about the biggest expense - education. · You want your child to go to a good private university - that will be $200,000 over 4 years. · How about a private school - that will be another $150,000. Add all these numbers up, then decide if you want to take this financial obligation at this time in your life. Think of being a dad as a part-time 20-year long job that you can not quit (that's exactly what it is). I am not saying it is a good job or a bad job. It is just a part-time job that will completely change your life for the next twenty years. Do you want this part-time 20-year long job at this time in your life? If you determined that you do not want children in the near future, then you DO NOT WANT TO GET MARRIED now. It's that simple. If you decided that you want children in the next few years, then you need to find a woman who'll make a good wife and mother to your children. The National Marriage Project (marriage.rutgers.edu) puts out marriage-related studies. Their 2004 essay called The Marrying Kind: Which Men Marry and Why studied a group of married men. Only 35% of these men said they got married because they were ready to have children, yet 70% of these men ended up having children. That means that one out of three men had children without really wanting them. This is not an anti-children book. Children are great if you want them. But the reality of the life in the west is that having children without wanting them is something you are likely to regret in the future. 11 Chapter 5 You determined that you do not want children in the near future. You don't want children is the same as you don't want to get married. The ONLY reason to get married is to have children and start a family. You already decided that you don't want children for now, so you surely don't want a wife either. You don't want to get married means that you have to be very careful about being in a serious relationship with an American woman. American woman in a "serious" relationship will put pressure on you to get married and start a family 2-3 years into the relationship (sometimes much earlier). You'll be pressured to do what you don't really want to do. I would highly recommend that you just have sex and have casual relationships with American women. The relationship should be over as soon as she starts controlling you, nagging, or sex becomes boring. Do yourself a favor and stick to these basic rules when dating American women: 1. Do not move in with her. You NEED an option to easily get rid of her at any time for any reason. 2. Do not accidentally have children with her. 3. Get rid of her as soon as she starts pressuring you into marriage, nagging, bitching, controlling sex, controlling you, etc... You should look for an alternative girlfriend while dating an American woman. Never forget that your American girlfriend is only temporary. Continue living your life as if you were single. It is very important for two reasons. 1) You might meet a foreign girl who will make a good long-term partner and with whom you can have a real relationship. 2) You will start getting too used to your present American girlfriend and she will start controlling you. 12 Chapter 6 You decided that you want to have kids in the next few years. You now need to find a woman who will make a good wife and a good mother. It's better for your health, and the future health and safety of your kids. You have a responsibility to avoid women who will make bad wives. That means, avoid all American-raised women. It's each guy's responsibility to find a woman who will make a good mother and who is the best possible choice for HIM, who will make HIM happy. Carefully examine every woman you date and determine if she will make a good wife as described in chapter 8. Do not marry her if she does not satisfy ALL the requirements for a good wife. It does not matter how attractive she is and how much you "love" her. Do not marry her if she displays clear warning signs of a bad wife described in chapter 8. Remember that marrying an average American woman means that at best you will have a 5% chance of having a happy marriage (see chapter 1). If you like these odds, go right ahead, just remember that your marriage is almost guaranteed to end in either divorce or you getting yourself trapped. Foreign women from South America, Eastern Europe, and Asia will make the best wives. Only guys who travel (in other words, guys who are successful and ambitious enough to travel a lot) find these women. But they never, ever go back. The best way to meet foreign women is to spend time abroad. Another option is to use Internet foreign dating services. I feel that spending time abroad is the better of the two. The next chapter will talk about it in greater length. But your odds of finding a good wife using foreign dating services are still much greater than marrying American woman. 13 Chapter 7 Travel to Latin America, Eastern Europe, or Asia at least once a year. Every American man should try to spend at least one month a year in Latin America, Eastern Europe, or Asia. In one month at either one of these places you'll meet more beautiful and friendly women and have more and better sex than you will for the rest of the year in the US. Trust me on that. Once you spend a few months in Latin America, Eastern Europe, or Asia, you will realize how ridiculously overpriced and selfish American women really are. You will never consider marrying American woman after that. Most guys can not stand even dating American women after dating foreign women for a while. If you don't think you can afford travelling a month or two a year, I suggest you spend less money on dating American women. A month in Latin America, Eastern Europe, or Asia will cost you around $1500 (or less) plus airfare ($500-$700 round-trip from the US if you don't go during the peak tourist season). Here are some ways you can save money while dating American women: · Did you buy a new car mainly because you thought it would help you attract women? It's costing you $6K+/year and does nothing but attract high-maintenance bitches to you. Get rid of the new car and buy a 10 year old Honda for under $5K. (I am not at all against buying an expensive car if you can afford it and you want it for yourself. What I am talking about are men who spend 1/4 of their income on a car they can not afford hoping to impress dates). · Do you take women out to expensive restaurants? Stop. You can save $ thousands a year if you eat at moderately priced restaurants. · Do you buy women drinks in bars? Don't ever do that. That's probably costing you $ thousands of dollars a year as well, and you are actually getting laid less because of that. · Don't buy American women anything beyond token small gifts for birthday, etc. Don't ever pay for American women's shopping sprees and trips (www.noMarriage.com/loser.html). · Don't overspend on prostitutes. Only hire independents and bargain. There is no reason to pay a lot more than $150 in major markets and close to $100 in smaller markets. Prices abroad are even less and the quality is much better. 14 · Don’t waste money on strippers. Why waste time and money on a woman who teases but does not have sex with you. These suggestions could easily save you an additional $5-$15 thousand a year. Save the money, then use your vacation or take some unpaid time off work and head abroad. I started www.SingleAbroad.com as a comprehensive resource for men interested in traveling and meeting local women abroad. Email me at noMarriageSite@yahoo.com if you did not get SingleAbroad.com membership with No Marriage purchase and you can join SingleAbroad.com for half price ($5 over 2 years instead of $10). 15 Chapter 8 Will your girlfriend be a good wife? It is very important to understand that things you are looking for in a “cool” temporary girlfriend and a good wife and mother are completely different things. An irresponsible and selfish American woman makes a fun temporary girlfriend, but she will make a horrible wife. Carefully examine your girlfriend and do not marry her unless she satisfies ALL the requirements for a good wife outlined in this chapter. 1. Your girlfriend should only say positive things about you. Let’s look at the letter written by a husband married to a Brazilian wife: My wife is Brazilian and she’s really supportive, extremely passionate, feminine, truly sweet and caring, and most of all, stands by her man, the old-fashioned way. She is so wonderful. It’s still hard for me to believe how lucky I am. I have everything a man would love to have from a woman and wife, from loyalty and commitment to a great sex life, and she is a great cook too. Couldn’t ask for more. She goes to work and whenever I meet someone working with her they are eager to meet me because of what she tells them about me. Everybody thinks I am the best husband in the world! And I am just a regular decent average man. Not ugly, not handsome, not a devil, not an angel. I don’t have to prove anything to her, the way “sadly” most men have to prove every little thing to their American wives. My wife and I laugh, or feel sad about all the crap her American coworkers tell her to "teach her how to deal with a man like me". Just selfish and worthless abusive advice. If your girlfriend ever says anything negative about you to anybody, that’s a 100% guarantee that you are already not meeting her expectations. After marriage that will result in her nagging and bitching, and denying you sex. 16 Here are things American women usually complain about their boyfriends: · He is cheap. Does not take me to nice places often enough. · He does not pay me enough attention. · He does not spend enough time with me. Spends too much time with his friends, etc... All these things indicate that your girlfriend is basically using you, by putting her interests above your interests. How do you find out if your girlfriend is telling her friends only good things about you? Her friends will always be very nice to you. In fact, they’ll be complimenting you and telling you things like “Your girlfriend has been saying so many nice things about you" whenever you meet them. 2. Your girlfriend should never say/think anything negative about men. You are a man. If your girlfriend does not like men, she will end up not liking you. In the US high schools and colleges teach women to blame men for everything. It is drilled into them every hour of every day, for years. The majority of American women end up not liking men by the time they graduate from college. Liking someone is a basic requirement for a successful marriage. Furthermore, women raised by single mothers usually don’t like their fathers, because their mothers were always telling them how “awful” their fathers were (and yet these same mothers chose to have their child with this “awful” man). Their negative attitudes towards their father will evolve into negative attitudes towards men in general and you in particular. It’s pretty easy to figure out when a woman does not like men. Does she ever say something like "men are pigs" or blames men for any of her or society problems? You’ve got your answer. If you’re going to live with a woman, it is incredibly unpleasant, not to mention unhealthy, to be with a woman who basically dislikes you as a man, and whose underlying belief system is anti-male. No matter how much she claims to "like men" you’ll find that it is a thin veneer. In times of stress and danger, she will revert. At the exact moment that you most need her trust, she will explode and attack you. Is that the kind of life you want? 17 Also, there will arise a huge difference in your views. Because she is starting with the assumption that men are jerks, when she makes even the slightest effort to be nice to you, she will view this as a huge concession on her part. She’ll think "wow, was I ever nice to him" just because she was moderately pleasant one day. Also, she’ll view ANY mistake on your part to be a HUGE OFFENSE. You, on the other hand, will see her constant anti-male bias as a big drain on you. It will be a constant irritation. When she does little nice things for you, you’ll view them as nowhere near enough to compensate for the constant underlying hostility. At the same time, when you make minor mistakes...which you will expect to be forgiven for immediately...you will be shocked by her overboard anger. She will constantly be on your case. Every good thing you do will barely be acknowledged. Every bad thing you do, no matter how insignificant, will be a reason for a total blowup to her. She will make some minor little friendly gestures, and then get all selfrighteous when you do not kiss her feet in gratitude. 3. Your girlfriend should never use sex as a weapon. Sex is usually the best for a few months after you first meet a woman, and goes downhill from there. A woman that uses sex as a weapon is: 1. manipulative 2. has no respect for you as a man 3. thinks she is doing you a favor when having sex Most American women view sex as a reward they give men. That will lead to less frequent sex and no sex soon after you get married. Never marry a woman who is sexually demanding in terms of your performance, who withholds sex on a regular basis on the grounds of headache or disinclination, or thinks she has a "right" to anything in particular sexually -- who, for example, will refuse you sex or make you keep doing things in bed on the grounds that you didn’t get her off the last time. You are going to get older and fatter and her libido is going to go off a cliff as she gets older and has kids. If she is even slightly hard to deal with sexually now (in terms of giving it up, or in terms of demanding things from you now) she is going to be IMPOSSIBLE to deal with five years after marriage. You WILL have a sexless marriage. 18 4. Your girlfriend should not have negative attitude towards traditional women’s responsibilities. Cooking, cleaning, mothering, wants kids, loves kids, loyal, trustworthy. It does not matter if she will not be doing much cooking or cleaning after marriage. What is important is that the wife does not have a negative attitude towards doing these things. Any trace of snobbery at doing traditional female tasks is a very bad sign of a princess. 5. Your girlfriend should not have any personality disorders. The two most common personality disorders American women have are Histrionic and Narcissistic disorders. Histrionic disorder: manipulative, attention seekers, dominate the conversation, use grandiose language, seek constant praise, dress provocatively, exaggerate illnesses in order to gain attention, exaggerate friendships and relationships, believe that everyone loves them. Narcissistic disorder: self-centered, seek attention and praise, take advantage of people, fantasize about success and power, expect favorable treatment, exaggerate achievements, have difficulty maintaining long-lasting relationships, expect others to recognize them as being superior. Many American women also have Dependent, Obsessive-Compulsive, and Borderline disorders. Www.noMarriage.com website has links to additional information about personality disorders. A woman with personality disorder(s) will make your life a living hell in no time. 6. Your girlfriend should not have a snotty and superior attitude towards anything. This is a huge red flag that all but guarantees a miserable marriage, and yet very few men pay any attention to it. Any sign of her snootiness and superiority means that she has a “princess” syndrome. Watch for any signs of superficial and stuck up attitude your girlfriend might have. It does not matter what she feels superior about. In time she will have this attitude towards you. She will always be putting her interests above yours and she’ll start controlling you and play mental games with you. 19 7. Your girlfriend should be financially responsible. Does your girlfriend regularly shop for expensive shoes and purses? She is probably financially irresponsible. A great way to determine how good she is with money is her attitude towards engagement rings and wedding ceremonies. You don’t have to plan your own, just talk about the subject in general. Say something like: "This wedding your friends are planning sure is expensive. Wouldn’t it be smarter to spend the $20K on a down-payment on a house?" If her attitude is that the wedding is more important, then it’s a sure indicator that she is selfish and stupid with money. If you end up buying her engagement ring, buy a very inexpensive one, and tell her you are saving the money to buy a house. Then find out if she told her friends that you bought her a cheap engagement ring. Get a credit check on her and find out if she has credit card debt or any negative points in her credit record. Financially irresponsible woman will always overspend. After you are married you’ll be slaving away for the rest of your life to support your wife’s ever increasing wants. 8. Your girlfriend should not try to prove anything to you and be preoccupied with fairness. US high schools and colleges also teach women that they always have to prove themselves since they are women. That mentality will lead to constant confrontations and resentment after you get married. Imagine coming home every day after work and your wife wants to prove to you she is right whenever you have any minor disagreement or even discussion. And if you disagree, she will continue trying to prove that she is right even if it obvious that she is wrong. You will never win any arguments, because she is more interested in proving to you that she is always right, than in solving a disagreement in good faith. You will always end up reluctantly agreeing with her, and start building resentment towards her. No woman with strong feminist leanings will EVER be happy with the breakdown of tasks in the household. She will ALWAYS be preoccupied with fairness and feel that she is always being taken advantage of. 9. Your girlfriend should never try to control or change you. It’s your responsibility to find a woman who is the best possible choice for YOU. She has to like you the way you are. You like to watch football, she should never ask you not to watch football; you like to 20 go out with friends, she should never ask you not to. She should never complain about your appearance, or even care too much about it. If your girlfriend is controlling, it will always get much worse after marriage. She will try to take complete control of what you do and will make your life miserable. 10. Your girlfriend should never lay guilt on you and play mind games with you. Laying guilt and playing mind games is very common with American women. American women are, for the most part, not well suited to accept reality or to think logically. They will approach a situation with their mind already made up. Then they will twist and manipulate the information to validate what they’re already thinking. So their views on reality are usually messed up. And their process for arguing/interacting is not based on reality. Instead it’s based on whatever irrational tools will help them prove their point (screaming, personal attacks, red herrings, etc). Conclusion. The key is to marry a woman who isn’t going to be SO MUCH DAMNED WORK. It’s like swimming. Yes, I like to swim and I’m a good swimmer. Does that mean that I’ll choose to jump in a fast-moving river and try to swim upstream? Hell no. That’s just unpleasant. I’d rather pick a nice calm body of water to swim in. Same with women. Don’t marry a woman who is going to be a huge pain in the ass, constant work, and constantly swimming upstream. Don’t marry a woman who will make it harder than it has to be. Pick a woman to marry who will be a GOOD WIFE and who KNOWS HOW to be a happy, successful wife, and who KNOWS HOW to help you be a better husband. Pick a woman from a culture that encourages this. In other words, DON’T marry an American woman. They are much, much harder to be married to, simply because they have been trained to NOT make any effort to be good wives. They have been trained to focus exclusively on their own needs, and to completely ignore yours. They have been trained in a thousand techniques for making it all "your fault". Not fun. Being married is damned near impossible anyway. No need to make it harder. 21 Chapter 9 My girlfriend will not make a good wife. Now what? The first thing you need to do is to fully accept it. Take your time and let it sink in. It’s a very difficult thing to accept, particularly if you were planning on marrying your girlfriend and spending your life with her. Furthermore, your relationship with your girlfriend is probably pretty good at the moment, so you don’t see how things will turn for the worse after marriage. You need to understand that the girl you are dating is not a real her. She is just acting in her dating phase; she is essentially selling herself to you. Your married life will eventually become completely miserable if your girlfriend does not fit all the requirements for a good wife outlined in the previous chapter. Marrying her will ultimately lead to one of the three outcomes: 1. Losing everything you earned while you were married and probably more. 2. Miserable life of a married trapped husband who would love nothing better than for his wife to go away. 3. You become a pussy/sucker (see next chapter) whose only purpose in life is to bring home a fat paycheck. If you determined that your girlfriend will not make a good wife and your relationship is serious (she is hinting about marriage and/or children), then you have to get rid of her. Just do it. Don’t worry about her feelings or anybody else’s feeling. You only have one life and you have to worry about the best way to live YOUR life, not the best way to service your girlfriend. Whatever you do, do not move in with her and do not have children with her. Remember, your health, and the future health and safety of your kids are at stake. You have a responsibility to avoid marrying women who will make bad wives. 22 Chapter 10 Suckers, Fuckers, and the truth about how American women get married. Let’s first define a sucker and a fucker. Sucker - also known as provider, also known as husband – docile schmuck who pays American woman’s bills and does not pester her for sex. Fucker - a person American woman actually enjoys having sex with. A fucker and provider can never be the same person. Fucker has to be unpredictable, interesting and exciting. A sucker has to be secure, dependable, and consequently boring. Never, ever forget that. American women do not enjoy having sex with suckers. Until they are in their late 20s, American women are not really interested in settling down and spend most of their time with fuckers and temporary suckers (men who take them out on expensive dates but never get laid). American women literally separate men they meet into potential suckers and fuckers right after they meet them. When American woman gets to about 28 she starts fraudulently selling sex, her looks, and her personality, so she can land a permanent sucker (husband). We have all met these women in their late 20s and 30s who say they now want to “settle down” and find a “good” husband. Those are the women you want to avoid the most. Let’s look at a typical woman like that. She majors in Liberal Arts where she basically spends four years learning how to hate men (College professors and college courses are openly anti-male). She then moves to a big city, gets a job, and moves in with a female roommate who is even a bigger bitch than she is. She spends the next 5-10 years going out on dates and practicing using sex to get things from men, watching Friends and other similar shows where every female character is a high-maintenance bitch, and bitching with her friends that she deserves better and all men are jerks. In her late 20s she realizes that she probably wants a house and children after all. She starts to get increasingly desperate to find a secure sucker whom she expects to work overtime for the next 30 years so she can live in a big house, have children, and have an option of working part-time or not working at all. All that can only be possible if her husband works overtime. 23 Her expectations are now completely out of control and she thinks she deserves her husband to be the combination of all the best qualities of all her dates and Friends characters. She was completely brainwashed and trained to be anti-men and to always be confrontational. Years of being single made her mentally unstable and psychotic. She has spent the last 15+ years practicing using sex to get things from men. 1. Sex before marriage. American woman is not interested in sex with a sucker, but she pretends that she is until she is married. A woman might even pretend she likes giving him blowjobs until after the wedding day. American woman simply uses sex as bait (either consciously or unconsciously), and having landed the fish, no longer sees the need to bait the hook. 2. Appearance before marriage. Appearance is the most rapidly deteriorating asset a woman has. It starts deteriorating in mid twenties and is usually completely gone in her thirties. A single woman looking for a sucker puts a lot of effort in enhancing her appearance. She will go to a gym and try to stay fit, she will dress sexy, wear push-up bras, have nice long hair, etc… 3. Personality before marriage. Single American woman looking for a sucker will go to great lengths to come across as “nice” and “caring”. She might even make an effort to show you that she is interested in you. She will usually refrain from too much bitching and nagging until she has her ring and you are trapped. An American woman basically puts up a "pre-marital dog & pony show" to impress you. She wants to land a stable and secure sucker so she can have her nice house and kids. After American woman gets married, she no longer has any incentive to have sex, look nice, and act nice. 1. Sex after marriage. Forget it. Sex with a sucker is boring and unexciting. It does not matter how much romance you put into your relationship. The simple truth is that American woman is bored after a few years of marriage, and there is nothing you can do about it. The situation is completely pathetic. Five years into her marriage, American woman would rather have sex with anyone but her husband. Expect girls’ nights out and 24 girls’ trips to Vegas and Mexico, where she’ll be banging strangers (married women now cheat as much as men. See statistics on www.noMarriage.com website). It is all but accepted by society that sex is not an important part of marriage, and the husband is not entitled to as much sex as he wants. If sex is important to you, then you should re-evaluate if this conventional view that you are not entitled to sex after marriage is acceptable to you. Foreign women have better sex lives after marriage because they generally do not use sex as a weapon, plus they have a lot less hangups about sex to start out with. American women are raised to always use sex as a reward for something they get, which is essentially the same as being a prostitute. Www.nomarriage.com/marriedsex.html webpage has lots of quotes from married American men living sexless lives. 2 Appearance after marriage. After he is married, a sucker will quickly find out that his wife never really liked gyms and exercise. One day he comes home from a long day at work, and he sees this fat fuck in polyester stretch pants sitting on a sofa, sucking bonbons and watching Oprah. Dresses - forget it, sweatpants are more comfortable. Hair gets cut since long hair is now “too much effort” to maintain. 3. Personality after marriage. American woman already has a sucker, so she is now free to become the nagging bitch she was raised to be. She is always bored with her married life and tired of responsibilities that come with being married, and she no longer has any reason to hide it. Expect nagging, bitching and confrontations over small things to become daily occurrences until the life of a sucker is one continuing nag and bitchfest. You see, once American woman has her house and children, she doesn’t need you any more, except as a meal ticket. Ask your married friends with children how their wives changed after marriage. Most will eventually admit that their sex lives are now nonexistent, and their wives became nagging bitches who lost all femininity and no longer even resemble women. 25 Chapter 11 Why marriage to American woman no longer makes sense. Modern American woman wants all the benefits of "equality" without any of the responsibilities that come with equality. American women want special privileges from the traditional system (men paying, being "gentlemen" by using special deferential manners and language to women, being the main breadwinner, etc) but not the old-fashioned obligations (being modest and ladylike, being a housewife, etc). They want the positives of equality (rights, equal access to work and education, etc) without the responsibilities (paying your own way financially a full 50% for life, taking risks with no safety net, and taking your lumps without complaint like men do...not expecting to be protected or sheltered from harsh reality, etc). You can’t take only the good from both systems...you have to take the bad with the good in any balance you strike. When American women try to have their cake and eat it in this way, the bad doesn’t disappear...it gets paid by men, and this is why the current culture is one of exploitation by selfish hypocritical American women. The current American culture discourages women being looked at critically, instead projecting all blame unjustly onto men; and so the inequity is rationalized away. This is why other cultures which haven’t got this screwed up as far as gender relations go, start to look very attractive. The women there expect to give as well as get. Www.nomarriage.com/50s.html has the article called "The good wife’s guide" from 1955 issue of Housekeeping monthly. Check out the article. It looks almost laughable today. But it’s no laughing matter. That’s what women were expected to do to make marriage fair and balanced. 26 Chapter 12 Do not get into relationship and marriage discussions with American women. It cannot succeed. They don’t like it, because it shows in plain black and white how hypocritical and selfish American women are as a group, and how they are taking advantage of men, children, and all of society in order to satisfy their emotional whims. Never, ever expect any American woman, of any age, to discuss these issues honestly. They won’t answer you honestly, they won’t "admit" the truth, and they won’t stop spinning the truth. They are purely, completely selfish. Their entire thought process – their "world view" is completely selfish. They are utterly brainwashed by feminism to consider themselves "innocent" and men "guilty" at ALL times no matter what reality is. It doesn’t matter how wildly unfair the situation. Somehow, American women will keep making everything "men’s fault". Even the very few American women who are able to think independently about this, and who want to understand your feelings (let’s say you’re talking to a woman who is a close friend and respects you) are largely a waste of time. They will talk and talk and talk with you. They will sympathize and intellectualize. But in the end, you’ll find that there was no real conclusion. They talked so much, they managed to evade the point. Here is a list of "bullshit evasion tactics" that American women ALWAYS use in these arguments: 1. The Knee-jerk Insult. "You’re just an asshole. I’m not even going to discuss that" (Why, because I’m saying something you don’t want to think about? Yeah.) 2. The Standard Feminist Attack. "You’re just a woman hater" (Anybody who criticized the behavior of women is a woman-hater. Of course, anybody who criticized men’s behavior is...a good citizen). 3. The Manhood Insult. "You probably never get laid" (When she was a girl, she could always manipulate men by insulting their manhood. Why not try it again...). 4. The Sly implication that you’re a loser. "Wow, you need a girlfriend!" "What’s the matter, still mad at mommy?" (Much easier to attack the other person than to actually discuss the issue) 27 5. The Big Distraction...Ignore Point and Attack Men on Completely Unrelated Issue. (This is a favorite of feminists. If you make a criticism of women, they just pop out some completely unrelated and disconnected sideattack against men. Like you say "why do women use Divorce to screw over men?" and she says "Men earn 10% higher salaries in the Coal Mining industry!" If you say "pay attention, talk to me about Divorce Laws!!" she says "Did you know that in Honduras it’s still legal for men to beat their wives?") Their goal is to evade your point and/or derail the argument, any way possible. How to talk to modern western women. I found that by far the best way to discuss relationships with western women is to say something like: “I wish I could grow and have a meaningful relationship with a strong woman like you, but unfortunately I keep falling in love with foreign women. I just can’t help myself.” Then use the following suggestions after her replies: · I can only assume you have never been in love. · Yes, I wish I could maintain a relationship. But my love just fades after a few weeks. And you know how it is to be in a loveless relationship. · Well, I can not help it. It is the way my mother raised me. So it is her fault. · I see you have never grown apart from the one you loved. · I wish you would offer me support, not insults. If you want to be more serious, there is a very simple way to address western/foreign women issue. Non-western women were raised in a manner that keeping their husbands happy is one of the main goals in their lives. Western women were raised in exactly the opposite manner. Any sane man would choose a woman who is going to treat him better, so choosing a non-western woman is the obvious default decision. A western woman has to explain why you should choose her over a nonwestern woman. If she can not do that (which she can not obviously), then what she thinks and what she wants is irrelevant to you. You do not need to explain or prove anything to her because she offers nothing you want. Western women ranting about foreign women is nothing more than a nuisance; think of them as homeless women heckling because a Lexus is an ugly color. 28 Chapter 13 The biggest costs in marriage are initiated by women but have to be paid for by men. In the 1950s a working man could support a stay-at-home wife and children with one income. Today it is all but impossible. The main reason for it is because the cost of housing and the cost of having children essentially doubled (adjusted for inflation) when women started working. Housing and children used to take one income, now they take two incomes. That creates an extremely stressful and difficult situation for married men because women will often choose to work part-time or not work at all after having children. So men now have to work double to compensate for their wives working less. What makes things even worse is that women initiate the biggest costs in marriage, but men are responsible for paying for them even thought men did not want those things. Women usually want a big house and expensive home improvements. Women also want to have children early (often because of the biological clock). The big house and children happen do be the two biggest costs in marriage. Nothing else even comes close. A sports car a husband wants costs less than a small bathroom addition. That makes marriage extremely unattractive for men for economic reasons. Today’s women have equality and should pay for what they want without expecting to be subsidized by men. A woman wants a big house. She should pay for the house herself. Her husband would probably be perfectly happy living in a two-bedroom apartment. Why should he be responsible for doubling or tripling his mortgage payment when his wife is the one who wants the house. A woman wants a $25,000 Corian countertop. She should be responsible for paying all of the $25,000. Why should her husband be responsible for paying even half of the $25,000 if he does not want a new countertop to begin with. A woman wants to have children because of her biological clock. She should pay for raising them herself. 30-year-old men do not want children. Why are they expected to be financially responsible for children they did not want to have. 60 Minutes TV show (aired on Oct 10, 2004) had an interesting report on how more and more career women quit workforce after having children. They interviewed a researcher who called couples from 1996 NY Times marriage announcements where both husband and wife had highpowered jobs; and she found out that 85% of these women no longer work 8 years later. They also interviewed the dean of Harvard business 29 schools who said that only 40% of female Harvard MBA graduates work in their child-raising years. The dean then said some nonsense about how companies ought to hold jobs opened for women for 10 years. This trend is very relevant to you, particularly if you make average (as opposed to way above average) salary. What it means is that there is a very high probability that, regardless of what your GF is saying now, she will not be working after having children. And since the costs of buying a house and raising children now require two full-time incomes, you will probably have a very hard time (see chapter on stress below) providing for your wife and children on one salary. 30 Chapter 14 Men’s responsibility is an obsolete concept. Three things are always emphasized whenever marriage is discussed today: 1. Men’s responsibilities. 2. Women’s entitlements and women’s best interests. 3. Children’s entitlements and children’s best interests. Two things are noticeably missing from every discussion – women’s responsibilities and men’s best interests and entitlements. And they are missing for a very good reason - because they do not exist. American women today do not have responsibilities, and American men today do not have their own best interests. Pay attention to that when you read articles about marriage in newspapers and magazines; not one of them will mention women’s responsibilities or men’s best interests. Articles about marriage usually try to sell marriage to men using a couple of bogus reasons: 1. Married men live "longer". It used to be somewhat true because married men lived sheltered lives. But it is no longer even true. Married men today still live boring and sheltered lives, but they are also constantly stresses from working 60-hour weeks and never-ending bitching at home. So men marrying today will live shorter lives (see next chapter). 2. Married men earn more in their lifetimes. That is true, but only because married men are forced to work 60-hour weeks to support their spoiled wives and children, while single men can take it easy, work less, and actually enjoy life rather than living the constant work/bitch-wife drudgery. The last point actually goes to the very core of why government supports marriage - married men slaving away at their jobs will pay more in taxes, and married men will finance women's consumption and raising children. Marriage today is basically a transfer of wealth from men to women (that is the REAL reason women want marriage). A typical marriage -> children -> divorce scenario results in about $200,000-$300,000 in wealth transfer from a man to his ex-wife. Marriage will last for about 5-7 years. A man will typically lose everything he earned in these 5-7 years in divorce. And the man will then be stuck paying child support for the next 18 years (most of which his ex-wife will spend on herself rather than children). Marriages that do not end in divorce will result in even more transfer of wealth from men to women since men will be spending most of their paycheck on women for the rest of their lives. 31 So forget about your so-called “responsibilities” and focus on your best interests. Chapter 15 Unmarried men will live longer and happier lives. Stress in married men’s lives. Women like to say that married men live longer and happier lives. That of course is complete nonsense because this statistic looks at men who die today (men born 70-80 years ago) and projects result on men who marry today (men born 30 years ago). Men born in the 1920s and 1930s married around 1950s. Back then only drunks, drug addicts, and criminals were not marrying and starting a family in their 20s or early 30s. So of course married men would appear to live longer when compared to drunks, drug addicts, and criminals who usually die young. So married men in the past did not live longer and happier lives because they got married. They lived longer and happier lives because they had their act together in the first place. Also, women back then did not have demanding and nagging attitudes they have today. So married men back then did not have stressful miserable lives married men have today. Today things are completely reversed. Married men today are stressed more than ever. And stress always leads to health problems and premature deaths. I recently read an interesting research report about how lawyers are two to three times more likely to become alcoholics and drug addicts because they are always stressed and unhappy. The same applies to married men. How many married men today are happy and not always stressed? Not too many. Let’s look at stress married men are exposed to in further detail. Not many men think about it before marriage, but they really should. Commute stress There were recently several research reports on the very underestimated negative health effects of car or train commute. The main reason men have long commutes is because their wives wanted to buy a big house in a good school district that is far from men’s jobs. Here are some results of the commute stress research by Dr David Lewis (a psychologist and author of several books on stress) and Dr Karol 32 Watson (of the Centre for Cholesterol and Hypertension Management at UCLA): · Average journey by train or bus is more stressful than being a fighter pilot in combat, or a police officer in a riot. · As passengers’ stress levels rocket, their brains switch off, leading to a condition they identified as “commuter amnesia”. · Commuters could suffer serious heart problems. Road rage, detours and running late raised blood pressure by nearly 75 per cent. · The normal resting heartbeat on a healthy young person is about 60 beats per minute. However, as they battled to and from work, the volunteers' heartbeats reached peaks of more than double that - comparable with the rate during strenuous exercise. Dr Lewis said: "Getting to this rate during physical exercise is good but commuters get this from purely psychological reasons and it puts them at risk of serious heart problems." · A difficult journey to work and the loss of control felt by the commuter can induce intense feelings of pressure, fast pulse rates and high blood pressure. · Stress plays a major role in the premature aging of cells, which makes them more vulnerable to disease. Stress appeared to have a major impact at a cellular level — dramatically affecting molecules that are believed to play a key role in cell aging. Job stress Married men with families to support HAVE to work. They are likely to work longer hours than single men because they need to earn more money in the first place. Working longer hours in itself is more stressful. Beyond that, employers know that they can delegate married men more things to the point of overworking them and married men are less likely to complain. With a single man there is always a risk he may just say “screw it” and walk away if he is not happy with his work. Married men don’t usually have the option of walking away, they have a mortgage and children to pay for. Another related aspect of working stress married men have is the ongoing realization that they HAVE to continue working the jobs even if they don’t like them for years or decades to come. It’s basically the realization that they are not really in control of their lives. A single man who does not like his job usually has options to quit/do something else/move. Married men don’t have this flexibility and often find themselves in a lose/lose situation. They are screwed if they stop working the job they don’t like, and screwed if they continue. 33 This ongoing realization that they are trapped for the next 20 years can be very stressful and lead to serious health problems. Family stress Married men's family stress is caused by frequent nagging by wives and the overall negative and non-supportive attitude majority of married men are exposed to throughout their lives. Modern western woman often takes pride in not supporting her husband and contributing to his emotional stress. A lot of married men find themselves in a situation where they hate going to work and hate going home.

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    Fire Your Wife FireYourWife.com First Edition Copyright © 2004 Jon Hertzog IMPORTANT This book is not a legal text and the information contained within does not constitute legal advice. The author is not a lawyer and does not claim to be a lawyer. The words in this book constitute an expression of the freedom of the press. The author is not responsible for the actions, results, or events that may occur in the lives of any readers of this book. The purpose of this book is to entertain. 2 TABLE OF CONTENT Chapter 1 - page 3 Is your wife depressed and generally unhappy? Chapter 2 - page 5 How modern American women typically approach divorce. Why it’s important that you prepare for divorce. Chapter 3 - page 7 Things to do and not to do when you are preparing for divorce. Chapter 4 - page 18 Withdrawing and hiding money before you get divorced. Chapter 5 - page 23 Document illegal and unethical things your wife does. Chapter 6 - page 24 If you want custody of children. Chapter 7 - page 28 Marital torts. Consider filing one and know that your wife may file one against you. Chapter 8 - page 30 Prenuptial and Postnuptial contract can be challenged in court. Chapter 9 - page 31 Warning signs that your wife is preparing to divorce you. Chapter 10 - page 34 Divorce advice your wife will be getting. 3 Chapter 1 Is your wife depressed and generally unhappy? There are many reasons people get divorced. I don't want to discuss most of these reasons here. If you want to divorce for whatever reason, then it’s not for me to have an opinion on that. But I want to discuss the possible depression and general unhappiness your wife may have. Woman’s depression as the reason for divorce is given very little attention, but it's either the main reason or the important contributing reason to why Americans get divorced. It’s important for two reasons: 1. You need to be able to understand if it’s happening and if it’s having negative affect on you. 2. You need to understand that your wife will likely behave irrationally and in vindictive manner during divorce (including possibly fabricating accusations against you in front of the judge). Several things contribute to why western women get depressed and unhappy after marriage: 1. Conflict between "being taken care by a strong man" fairy tale she was listening to since childhood and having a powerful and fulfilling career. This conflict gets much worse when she has children and has to make choices and compromises between career and being with children. 2. Conflict between being an independent woman and a wife. Western women are always told that they need to be independent and "grow as an individual". That inevitably comes in conflict with being a wife and thinking of herself as one unit with her husband. Western women spend a lot of time thinking if they are "truly fulfilled". The more they think about it, the more depressed they usually get. 3. Stress. Women are often stressed over superficial things like which shoes to wear. After she has children she is also stressed because of the new responsibilities, time, and financial commitments. Stress is a leading contributing factor to depression. 4. Personality Disorders and being mentally unstable. A large percentage of western women have personality disorder(s) since they were teens. A lot of women are on medication. Many personality disorders have depression as one of the main symptoms. All the above contributing factors usually come together when she is in her mid thirties and has small children. From that point on the husband is usually stuck dealing with increasingly depressed and unhappy wife who views her husband as a walking paycheck and who blames him for 4 everything. The menopause in her 40s further increases her depression and unhappiness with her present life and the present husband. Western women often start getting depressed since they were 18 years old. Society tells women that they're not successful unless they can get a gorgeous, well-paid man (yet someone who does not work too much and spends a lot of time at home), and have kids. They're told this from when they're tiny kids. Then, as they get older they're told they also have to have successful and fulfilling jobs. They are also told that they are not successful unless they are "truly fulfilled and grow as a person". Your wife probably asks herself if she is "truly happy" and "truly fulfilled", as well as "growing as a person". She probably reads selfhelp books and magazine articles that deal with these subjects. One thing almost all of these books have in common is that they are written by men-hating feminists. The more she reads these books and articles, the more she will start thinking that she is not happy in life and in marriage and that you are the main (and possibly the only) reason for that. Her female friends, women's magazines, and daytime TV shows will reinforce these feeling even further. The media will also reinforce her sense of general helplessness. Women also greatly underestimates emotional and financial costs of raising children. 80% of women get at least short-term form of postpartum depression after they give birth. Many stay depressed for years after that. All these things contribute to women's sense of hopelessness and confusion and lead to their depression and you being trapped and blamed for everything. 5 Chapter 2 How modern American women typically approach divorce. Why it’s important that you prepare for divorce. At some point modern American woman decides she wants a divorce for whatever (often petty) reason. She plans out the divorce in detail, taking her time shutting down all her feelings for the man. She does this by building up a mental store of his every fault - real, exaggerated or imagined, until she hates the guy - which is what allows her to cut off her feelings for him. Even though the above is not fair or necessary, she does this because it's a lot easier to be self-righteously angry, shifting all blame to him, rather than go through the painful, yet honest process of mourning the death of a relationship where fault can't really be placed fully on either side. She doesn't tell the man until she has fully cut herself off emotionally, reversing her feelings for him, and has made most preparations to divorce. The man may have noticed her feelings cooling to him, but she has deliberately hidden her deeper change, and her future agenda. So from the guy's point of view, one day a loving wife turns 180 degrees into absolutely hating him, acting in spiteful, psychotic ways he never would have imagined her capable of. It's like a switch going from on to off. As she has pre-justified it all to herself, demonizing him in her mind, she has no hesitation in acting in ruthless and hateful ways towards him from the moment she declares her intention to divorce. It is almost always a shock for men to discover this side to women, as for most men this is an unimaginable way to think and behave. The way it really works is that women do what they want (for any irrational reason) and then rationalize why they did it later. There's no point looking for rational explanations. If you are trapped with a modern American woman like that, then preparing for divorce and divorcing your wife is your only way out. You need to assume that your relationship with your wife during divorce will be adversarial. She may start lying and acting in bad faith. Your wife will be influenced by her friends, co-workers, daytime talk-shows, her own divorce attorney, and other sources. She will be made feel like she will be betraying all the present and future generations of women 6 unless she uses all the tricks in her disposal and takes all your money and punishes you. She will be told by everyone that she is the victim and you are the scumbag, and that she deserves to take you to the cleaners and punish you for the rest of your life. Many divorce attorneys routinely recommend women to start divorce with false abuse accusation against the husband. That way they can immediately gain the upperhand and the husband is put in the defensive position where he has to spend time and money trying to prove he is not an abuser scumbag instead of trying to get a fair divorce. False accusations by women are becoming standard procedures in divorce courts. Things you may get falsely accused of in divorce court: 1. Hiding money 2. Emotionally and/or physically abusing wife 3. Emotionally and/or physically and/or sexually abusing children You can expect a court order barring you access to your house and/or seeing children based on abuse accusations above. Another court order can freeze your finances. You need to prepare for divorce and file for divorce first in order to improve your odds of getting a fair divorce. 7 Chapter 3 Things to do and not to do when you are preparing for divorce. Preparing for divorce can take several months or even longer. What not to do - be in denial about your future divorce and not preparing for it. What to do - prepare for divorce, then divorce. What not to do - act before you properly prepare for divorce. What to do - prepare everything, then act. What not to do - start treating your wife badly. What to do - treat her better than ever while you are preparing divorce (but do not overdo it, or she may get suspicious). What not to do - argue with your wife and threaten divorce. What to do - prepare, then file for divorce. What not to do - assume that your prenuptial and postnuptial contracts are bullet-proof. What to do - know that your wife may challenge their validity (see chapter 8). What not to do - feeling guilty about your divorce preparation. What to do – prepare. You wife will prepare for you if you do not. What not to do - think that your wife will be rational and fair during divorce. What to do - ASSUME she will be completely irrational, vindictive, and start acting in bad faith. What not to do - assume the divorce court will be fair towards you. What to do - prepare the best you can and leave as little for the court to decide as possible. What not to do - assume that your wife is not preparing to divorce you. What to do - assume that she is, or assume nothing in that regard. What not to do - withdraw money in a lump sum the day before you file for divorce (although that may still be better than leaving the money there). What to do - withdraw money in reasonably small (small as it relates to your lifestyle) amounts over a period of several months or even years. What not to do – talk to a therapist. Anything you say can later be used against you in court (particularly as it relates to children) What to do – do not see a therapist with your wife. It’s a lose/lose proposition. 8 What not to do - trust people you know with your divorce preparations. What to do - trust no-one. The less people know the better. What not to do - admit that you are preparing divorce if your wife gets suspicious What to do - say "I love you more than ever". What not to do - move in with your GF during the divorce. What to do - do not mention your GF to anyone until your divorce is over. You GF will give your wife extra sympathy and advantage in divorce court. Make as little money as possible 1-2 years before divorce. That is absolutely crucial. If possible, postpone any income until after you get divorced. Work less, or do not work at all if you can get away with that. Your paycheck is the single most important thing that will determine how much you will be paying your wife after you get divorced. You should give your wife and the judge reasons why you started to work less. You don't want to say that you quit your job so you can lay on the beach all day and pick up young women. Here are some good reasons to stop working or work less before filing for divorce: * You want to spend more time with your children and be a better father. Women do that all the time. Who can blame a father for wanting to spend more time with his children. * You got laid off. Make sure you get laid off before filing for divorce if you think you are going to be laid off anyway. * You are going back to school and/or re-training yourself. See more on that below. * You are stressed and burnt out. That's a perfectly valid reason to stop working or work less. Women do it all the time; so can you. Go see a doctor so there are records of your stress. * You are depressed (work-related or not). Another thing women love doing. Depression is an illness and a valid reason to work less. * You want to have a more "meaningful life", want to "find your true self", "grow spiritually", etc. Buy some books on "finding true self" on Amazon so there are records of you being interested in this subject. * You have to care for a sick relative. 9 * Start (temporarily unprofitable) business. A lot of businesses make little or no money in the first couple of years. Starting a business can help you in several ways. It can explain why you work less on your day job and make less money. It is also potentially a good way to hide assets. You can invest a lot of money into your business and acquire “assets” that are hard to locate, or that somehow “lost” value. Lower your standard of living (at least your documented standard of living) before you file for divorce. This is one of the most important things you should do. Lower yours and your wife's standards of living one-two years before divorce. The lower your standard of living before divorce, the better off you will be after divorce. All divorce help books for women tell them to start spending like crazy before divorce, so she might be trying to increase her standard of living while you are trying to lower it. If you own a business you can tell her that you are making less money short-turn, but will have a big payoff that she will greatly benefit from in the future. You can say that you are using money to expand your business or something along this line. You can tell your wife that you are saving money for a big purchase that will benefit her, like a new house, or even a big SUV she has been dreaming about. Or just explain that you are having financial difficulties. Start paying for things with cash. Pay cash when you take your wife to expensive restaurant, but use credit card when you go to Macdonald's. That way there are records of you eating at inexpensive restaurants only. Don’t allow you wife to buy expensive things for herself with your credit card. Buy things for her yourself if you must and pay cash. That way there are no records of you living lavishly. Reduce your apparent long-term earning power as much as possible. You want to look like a man not capable of making a good living when you stand in from of the judge. Use the above suggestions when you are explaining why your life focus changed and you are no longer a harddriving workaholic working 60-hour weeks and making a lot of money you once were. 10 Encourage your wife to work, even help her get a job if you have to. You want your wife to work as much as possible and earn as much as possible during 1-2 years before you file for divorce. Go back to school and/or retrain yourself 1-2 years before divorce. A great thing about going to school before divorce is that you may be able to pre-pay your whole duration of school with your pre-divorce money. So if you ever wanted to go back to school and/or acquire additional professional licenses, etc, right now is a great time to do it. Going to school is also a good excuse to work less and earn less money. It is also a good excuse for your wife to work more. If you have significant equity in your house. You should see a lawyer early with this specific issue. The house may be the single biggest thing you can lose out on financially during divorce. If you have children under eighteen years old and your wife gets their custody, then she will likely be allowed to keep the house, and you might be stuck continuing paying for it. What you should tell your lawyer is more or less: "I am planning to file for divorce in a year or so. My wife and I have a lot of equity in the house. What should I do now to maximize the probability that I will get my fair share of the equity during divorce". You will generally be better off selling the house before you divorce. It will be easier to split the money than to split the house. Talk your wife into selling the house and moving, then file for divorce before buying another house. Or see if you can talk her into selling the house because “the market is overvalued” or for any other reason. Another thing you can do is take the second mortgage with a private source and withdraw equity from the house. It may backfire against you during divorce, but people do withdraw all equity from their house and “gamble” it away, etc. Do not do home improvements or buy new furniture. Everything you spent on improvements and furniture will likely benefit your wife only after you divorce. You will spend thousands and thousands of dollars on improvements, your wife will keep all of it, and you will be stuck with the debt. 11 Keep the assets you had prior to marriage (or property received during marriage by gift or inheritance) separate from the assets you acquired during marriage. Hopefully you have already been doing that all along. Now is certainly not the time to mix any assets you owned before marriage (or property received during marriage by gift or inheritance) and assets you acquired during marriage. Get a credit report that lists all your accounts and credit cards. You need to know exactly what you have before you can decide which accounts and credit cards to close. Gradually cancel your credit cards. But make sure and leave the card(s) your wife is using opened for now. Cancel the cards your wife is using right before you announce divorce. Start paying cash for things. The less credit cards you have opened, the less credit card debt she can run up before (or after, you may still be liable for that as well) the divorce. Also, the less records of your pre-divorced life there are, the better. Her divorce lawyer will have less material to work with. Keep as much of your assets under your name only as possible. Transfer as many assets under your name only as you can get away with. Cash checks that are not your regular paychecks instead of depositing them. The less records of your income and deposits, the better. Consider filing bankruptcy before, during, or after divorce. Bankruptcy will not discharge alimony and child support, but it will generally allow you to get rid of all other divorce-related debts, including continuing making house payments for your ex-wife. It is crucial that you try to minimize alimony and child-support payments to your wife. Pay off certain debts from your joined account. Particularly your IRS and student loans debts. You are going to have to pay them back anyway, so you might as well do it from your joined account. But don’t pay off debts for your wife (her car or her credit 12 cards), and don’t pay any more than you are legally required for the house. Document anything illegal and unethical your wife does. Don’t do anything illegal and unethical yourself (including drinking, particularly if you want custody of children). Chapter 5 has detailed information on documenting illegal and unethical things that your wife may be doing. Educate yourself on divorce laws in your state before seeing a lawyer. Get a recent divorce law book for your state that covers all the main divorce laws in your state and how they are usually interpreted. Learn as much about divorce law in your state as you can, particularly as it relates to house and children. http://www.deltabravo.net/custody has a list of pro-men attorneys and useful articles and other legal information you should read. http://groups.google.com/groups?group=alt.support.divorce http://groups.google.com/groups?group=alt.mens-rights http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.men Spend a few hours reading deltabravo.net and searching the three above newsgroups for keywords (Your state, custody, abuse, etc…) relevant to your future divorce. Hire a good lawyer. You want a lawyer who is good at what he/she does, who is on your side, and who is honest (does not overbill you) and reliable. It is very important that your attorney is not brainwashed by feminist agenda. Many divorce attorneys will have underlying mindset that women are always victims and deserve to benefit from divorce. Attorney like that will not really be on your side and will not give you the best objective advice (in some cases you may even get bad-faith advice). Do not assume that all male attorneys are men-friendly and female attorneys are women-friendly. I would say there is an equal chance that a menfriendly attorney can be a man or a woman. When you first talk with an attorney, say something along the line of “My wife was treating me unfairly and I want to get as much as possible out of divorce and leave her as little as possible”. His reaction to that should be positive and reassuring that he understands and will help you do just that. Fire him on a spot he says anything like “you need to be fair”, “your wife deserves…”, etc… Ask the lawyer what he does charge for, and what he does not charge for. 13 Make sure that the lawyer is billing you for the actual time expended. Ask for itemized monthly bills. Establish your wife's fault before filing for divorce, if possible. Fault is usually not necessary to get divorced today; but your wife's fault will help you during divorce. The most common reasons to establish her fault are: · Adultery · Mental abuse and cruelty · Physical abuse · Alcohol and drug abuse Never say anything to anyone that you don't want to be used in court against you. Divorce is a legal process. Any time you are involved in any legal process, the less you talk the better. Open a post office box. All the mail related to your divorce preparation should be going there. You can also start sending your bank statements and other financial statements to your PO box. Get a pre-paid phone. Use it for all phone calls your wife and her future divorce attorney do not need to know about. That's particularly crucial if you have a girlfriend, or you are talking with people related to your divorce preparation, but you should do it regardless. Your phone records is another thing her divorce lawyer will be going through. Virgin mobile works well for pre-paid wireless. You buy the phone and pre-paid minutes (buy it with cash obviously), then activate it by phone or online (do it from the computer your wife has no access to). Don't give Virgin your name or any real information about you. Then buy extra minutes from 7- Eleven or other places they are sold by paying cash (you don’t want $50 charge for Virgin Pre-paid Mobile on your CC statement). Get free web-based email like mail.yahoo.com or hotmail.com. Use it for everything related to your divorce preparation, your financial information, and everything else your wife does not need to know about. Do not log into your email account on the computer your wife has access to (more on that later on in the chapter). 14 Do not exaggerate your net worth and income on loan applications. Your loan applications where you exaggerate your income/net worth can be used against you in divorce court. Start hiding valuable items you own and items that hold sentimental value to you. Start removing these items from the house and store them in a secure location your wife does not know about. But only do it if your wife does not notice. Otherwise do it right before you file for divorce. Fire your stockbrokers/financial advisors if they talk to your wife. You do not want people knowledgeable about your finances talking to your wife. Either manage your finances yourself until the divorce is over, or hire someone your wife does not know and will not find out about. Hide all your current and past financial records from your wife and remove any copies of your past financial records your wife may have. Remove your bank statements, tax returns, deeds, wills, etc… Don’t forget to remove any electronic records (computer hard drive, copies on CDs, etc – more on that below). Do it without alarming your wife. The less financial records your wife has and the less she knows about your finances, the better. Replace your compute hard drive. Replace your computer hard drive when you start preparing for divorce. Also, hide or destroy all the backups of your hard drive data you may have made. Your computer hard drive probably has your financial records and account numbers and has things that can be used against you in divorce court (records of you emailing other women, porn, or even looking at websites such as FireYourWife.com can in theory be used against you). Buy another hard drive for your computer, put the same operating system and software as your existing hard drive and replace them. Or you can say that the old hard drive crashed, everything on it was lost, and you replaced it. Do not just erase the data on your old drive or reformat it; buy a new drive and replace them. Once you replaced the hard drive, stop using your home computer to look at sensitive information on the web, read your email (your wife can make copies of emails you send and read) and keep personal information on this computer. 15 Basically use the home computer to play Solitaire and look at ESPN.com. Keep the old hard drive where your wife will not find it or destroy it. You can also buy a small portable hard-drive (some of the new once will fit on a keychain) and use it to store the sensitive information you don't want your wife to have access to. Or just buy a small laptop or PDA your wife does not know about and make sure she does not find it (she will be very curious about it if she finds it). The bottom line is that your computer probably knows a lot more about you than you realize and this information can really hurt you during divorce. One day before you file for divorce: · Close all your credit cards your wife has access to. Notify CC companies in writing that you are canceling the cards and will not be responsible for any charges after the present date. Make copies and mail them by certified mail. · Close all the department stores cards in a similar manner as credit cards above. · Close all your joined accounts, all bank overdrafts, bank credit lines, or any other credit lines your wife can tap into. · Remove items from the bank safe deposit box that’s under your name or both of your names. Your wife can at any time get a court order preventing you from accessing your safe deposit box. · Put money that were in your joined account into another account in a different bank that's under your name only. Don't hide the money that were in your joined account at this point. Just explain that you removed the money from the joined account so you wife can not maliciously withdraw and hide it. · Remove all your personal documents from the house. Remove your items from the house that are valuable, have sentimental value to you, or anything else you absolutely want to hold on to (renting a short-term apartment your wife does not know about before filing for divorce may not be a bad idea). · Make a record of all marital property left in the house with a camcorder. Make sure the "date" function is turned on. Store the tape away from home. · Remove all financial records from the house - paper statements and other records, and computer hard drive(s) your wife may be using, and backup copies that might have been made (on CD-Rs, etc). · Be prepared for your wife to get violent when you tell her about divorce. You need to think about personal safety. · Get in contact with your local police department in advance if you think your wife will be calling them and falsely accusing you of things. 16 Try to settle divorce yourself. Tell you wife something like: “We are going to get divorced anyway. The less money we spend on lawyers, the more we will have to divide among ourselves.” Your goal is to sign a settlement before she hires a lawyer. Then, if she agrees, have your lawyer write the settlement terms you can live with and have your wife sign it. Whatever your wife agrees on before she consults her lawyer will generally be more in your favor than if her lawyer gets involved. You obviously want to do it only after you prepared for divorce and you are ready to discuss divorce with your wife. If your wife is financially dependent on you. Don’t cut her support entirely the day you announce your intention to divorce her. Continue supporting her basic needs to the best of your financial ability, and make sure it’s documented. You don’t want to give her ammunition to file temporary relief motion – you’ll probably end up paying a lot more if she does. Be careful with changing locks. Be prepared that your wife will change house locks. It’s (usually) legal for either party to change locks, so you can in theory change them yourself first. But be careful, particularly if you have children. Whoever is locked out can claim that they were denied the opportunity to return home and be with their children. Call police if she locks you out. You have as much right to be in your house as she does. Check to see if your wife is hiding money in the house. Check in the freezer (particularly if you do not cook) and in her closet (her clothing and shoe boxes). Check other places in the house where your wife often goes but you hardly ever do. If you have a girlfriend. Do not mention your girlfriend to your wife and preferably anyone else. You might be surprised how many of your “friends” may start helping your wife during your divorce. You GF will give your wife extra sympathy and advantage in divorce court. Watch out for private investigators. Don’t move out of the house during divorce. Not unless the court orders you. 17 Research the potential judge(s) who might sit on your case. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Either you or your lawyer has to make sure the judge is not prejudicial. Try to get a different judge if the judge has a history of making pro-women divorce decisions. Replacing the judge during the divorce is something most men probably do not think about, yet it may be the single most important thing you can do to make your divorce outcome favorable to you. Talk to your lawyer about the potential judges and potentially replacing them. Please email me anonymously to FireYourWife@yahoo.com or anonymously send me your divorce story from a link on FireYourWife.com if you manage to replace the judge during the divorce. During the divorce: · Change your lawyer if he/she does not seem to be acting in your best interests. · Do not sign anything unless you understand it completely. · Try to agree to child support based on the children’s needs, not your income. · Do not agree to pay future medical expenses for your ex-wife or children, or any future undetermined bills. Do not agree to pay anything that is open-ended and opened to interpretation. File for divorce before the tenth anniversary. Find out after how many years your wife is entitled to more in your state; file for divorce before the anniversary. 18 Chapter 4 Withdrawing and hiding money before you get divorced. "Secrets are not necessarily bad. Putting money away can be a wonderful thing for a relationship" - exact quote from a divorce book for women. Withdrawing money from your bank account and keeping it elsewhere is 100% legal. There is no law that says that you can not keep money hidden in your house or in some secret location. There is also no law that says you have to tell your wife you withdrew $500 from your account (or your joined account) just like there is no law that says your wife has to get your permission before buying $500 purse with your credit card. Start withdrawing several hundred to several thousand dollars per month (or more if is consistent with your lifestyle) from your account and hide it. Withdrawing a lot of money right before filing for divorce will put you in unfavorable positions in front of the judge. You need to withdraw reasonably small (reasonably small for your lifestyle) amounts over the period of months or years. So the sooner you start withdrawing money, the better. If you start withdrawing a lot more money than is reasonably consistent with your lifestyle, then you may want to try the “lost money gambling” angle. Go to a casino and withdraw the money there (ATM, bank transfer) in chips. Then convert your chips back into cash later. Make sure you have records of gambling inside the casino and preferably staying in a nearby hotel overnight. Use your credit card to pay for things inside the casino and the hotel so there are records of you being there. Make sure you understand that your “gambling problem” will probably hurt your chances of getting the custody of children. Here are some of the places you can keep the money once you withdraw it: Withdrawing money and not keeping it in a bank. You may decide to hide the money in the house. There are many places in your house you might be able to hide the money. You obviously need to put the money where a thief is not likely to find it. So avoid hiding money in places where a thief will usually look - obvious places that are locked, and places like desk drawers and bottoms of closet drawers. Keeping money in the house may be dangerous if your wife suspects you might be doing it. She has literally hundreds of hours to look for money if she suspects your are hiding it in the house. Here are some alternatives to keeping the money in the house: 19 · Rent another apartment and hide the money there. · Rent storage space and keep the money there. · Keep the money in someone else's house. · Have someone else open a safe deposit box and keep the money there. · Hide the money somewhere in a secret outdoor location (usually a wooded area). You obviously need to make sure the money (or other things you are hiding) do not get found accidentally and do not get wet or destroyed/damaged by other natural elements. I would not recommend keeping the money in the bank safe deposit box under your name because your wife can get a restraining order barring you from accessing your bank safe deposit box. You definitely don’t want to keep the money there if your relationship with your wife is already confrontational. Do not hide the money in your car. There is too much risk of the car getting stolen. You can also buy and hide gold or other small valuable items instead of cash. Your friend or relative can keep your money in his account. Your friend or relative can open an account under his name and address that you'll be using to deposit money. A few things to consider here: · Your friend can just take your money and tell you to get lost. So you need to think long and hard if you really trust the person. · Your friend can tell your wife. You need to think about that. He has to be unconditionally on your side and not your wife's side. Your wife may be calling your friends and relatives during divorce asking them for information and to be witnesses against you. · Your friend can die. You probably don't want to do it with someone who is very old or very ill. · Your friend can get in tax trouble, child support trouble, or get sued. You basically want to do it with someone who is not likely to get in trouble. You can not write checks from your account and deposit them into your friend’s account. There can be no paper trial or electronic trial between your account(s) and your friend's account. You also don't want to deposit too much money into his account because IRS might ask your friend where this money came from. The amount of 20 money you deposit should be proportional to how much your friend makes (unless he is wealthy, in which case you can deposit whatever is consistent with his other financial transactions). 20% of his yearly income every year is probably reasonable; so don't put more that $10,000 a year if he makes $50,000. The best way to put money into his account is to deposit cash. But you don't want to have $1,000 withdrawals from your account on the 15th of each month, and $1,000 cash deposits into his account on the 16th (particularly if he is your close relative). So make a lot of small withdrawals, but several large deposits, or vice versa. The account should be non-interest bearing, or you can give your friend cash for the tax he'll be paying on the interest the account earns. Opening bank account(s) that your wife is less likely to find. Get Sole proprietor business tax ID and use it instead of your SSN to open the account. Get driver license (or ID card) from another state. You'll have a different drivers license number to use. Use your passport instead of your drivers license to open the account. Or use another ID if the bank will accept it instead of drivers license (you don't want your regular drivers license number and SSN on the account) Use your foreign passport if you have one. Don't use the same spelling of your name. Use middle name (particularly if you technically have it but usually do not use it), or don't use middle name if you normally use it. Open a PO box and use it for the bank statements. Don't use this PO box for any other mail. Have the account be non-interest bearing. Opening a bank account without using your SSN. There are millions of illegal aliens living in the US. They have no legal US documents, no SS numbers, yet almost all of them have US bank accounts. Bank account that does not have your name, SSN, and address will be virtually untraceable by your wife. 21 I have no idea how illegal immigrants open bank accounts without real documents, but millions of them do it; so whatever they are doing must be working. Opening a bank account like that may have perfectly legitimate and ethical reasons. Identity theft is a growing problem affecting millions of Americans a year. Opening a bank account that is not linked to your name/SSN/address is a good way to avoid having your money stolen by identity thieves. Buy collectibles your wife does not know about. Many small things sell for thousands of dollars on Ebay and seem to be appreciating in value over time. Only do it if you understand the particular collectibles market. Avoid paying by check/wire transfer/credit card from the account your wife has access to as much as possible. Transferring money into foreign and/or offshore bank account. Transferring money into foreign bank accounts is probably not worth it unless you have $100,000 or more to transfer. For smaller amounts it seems easier and safer to just withdraw and keep money in the US. I would also highly recommend getting financial advice from an expert in transferring money to foreign account before doing that. There can be no records of money transfers or written checks between your US account(s)and your foreign account(s). You can take up to $10,000 out of the US every time you travel abroad, plus you can withdraw $400 or so per day from each one of your US bank accounts from ATMs while you are abroad. You will need to report the interest you earn on your foreign account(s) to the IRS, but you do not need to mention the account existence to anyone. Your bank statements can not be sent to your home address (or any address your wife has access to). Foreign accounts are not likely to be found during divorce unless your wife (and her divorce attorney) already knows where you have them. Buying property abroad. Foreign property ownership might be even harder to trace than foreign bank accounts. Your wife obviously can not know about your foreign property. You probably ought to keep it largely a secret from anyone. You also can not pay for it directly from your US bank account. Buying property abroad is a complicated subject. You need to know the real estate law in the country you will be buying property at. Like 22 offshore bank account, it's probably not something you'll be doing if you have less than $100,000 USD to work with. You should definitely hire an expert in this subject if you decide to do it. 23 Chapter 5 Document illegal and unethical things your wife does. Documenting illegal and unethical things your wife does (and everything else that portrays her in negative manner) will really help you in divorce court. It will be particularly important if you want to gain custody of your children. Think of documenting illegal and unethical things your wife does as an insurance policy. You don’t have to use it, but it will be there for you if you wife ever makes false accusations against you. First, consult an attorney in your area to make sure video and audio recorded evidence will be admitted in court where you live. You can also speak to a local state prosecutor’s office regarding legalities of video and audio recording your wife. State prosecutors will be familiar with local prosecutions of violations of wiretap law and should be able to tell you if it's legal or not where you live. Be particularly careful wiretapping your wife's conversations on the phone when she is not talking to you. It will often, but not always, be considered illegal wiretap. You can buy small inexpensive cameras that record video and audio and install them in the house. You can also use small audio recorders to record when you talk to you wife (or when she yells at you). I would highly recommend buying a small audio recorder (they are now very cheap and very small) and always carry it in case your wife starts engaging in behavior you'd want to record. Video record, audio record, make photos, keep diary and other records of your wife doing any of the following (the more record you have, the better): · behaving in abusive or threatening manner (towards anyone, not just you) · doing illegal drugs · doing anything illegal · having affairs · screaming and shouting · getting drunk and behaving obnoxiously · drinking alcohol in general, particularly around children · behaving cruelly · doing anything else that portrays her in a negative manner Evidence of your wife engaging in any of the above activity around children will be particularly helpful during divorce. 24 Your videotapes and audio recordings may or may not be admissible in court. But the more proof of negative things about your wife you have, the better off you'll be during divorce. Remember that emotional abuse is abuse. Anything she says that bothers you or causes you emotional distress is abuse. Any time she yells or insults you, she is engaging in emotional abuse. Record and document as much of it as possible. Document her lying and even exaggerating. The more proof you have of things she lies about, the better. You want records you can use during the divorce that will help you question the credibility of what she says. Abusing children Women abuse children a lot more often than people think; majority of child abuse is at the hands of mothers. If there are signs/evidence that your wife abuses your children, video or audio record it if possible (or take photos and otherwise document it), then call police and/or file criminal action against your wife and seek her incarceration. Have your children interviewed by psychologist right away to document your claim. Threats or Physical abuse Photograph physical evidence, including your injuries, and audio or video tape the evidence. Call 911, report the abuse or threats, and request police intervention. When the police arrive, make sure that a complete police report is created that lists all her action (screaming, threatening, hitting you, etc...). Calling police may be particularly effective if your wife just drank alcohol. Police will detect her intoxication and it will substantially increase the credibility of your claim. Assault and battery claim can be proven with no physical evidence. Calling police can be somewhat risky because police will sometimes arrest the man even though the woman is the one engaging in abusive or threatening behavior (a video or audio tape of her abuse or threats would really help you here). Still, calling police may be worth doing in many cases. Records of your wife being arrested will help you in divorce court. Make sure you are the one calling 911 in domestic violence situation. On an interesting sidenote, divorce books for women tell them to be very careful when calling police in abuse situations. They warn women that their husband may end up in jail, and therefore have lower pre-divorce and post-divorce income. It’s an interesting example of how divorce 25 books for women assume that women will put their personal greed in front of safety of their children. Mental Abuse or Cruelty See the counsel and treatment of a psychologist if your wife mentally abuses you. It will help you document evidence of mental abuse and the psychologist can be called as an expert witness to substantiate your claims. Keep diary with dates and times and complete summaries of abuse statements or acts. Audio or video record abuse. Alcohol or Drug Abuse · Photograph your wife when she is drunk or on drugs. · Videotape or audiotape your wife getting drunk or taking drugs (don't forget to do it at parties you may attend). · Invite your wife to attend therapist sessions and discuss her alcohol or drug abuse. Therapist can later testify in court against your wife. · Records of your wife's alcohol and drug abuse will help you with your custody. Make sure you have records of criminal arrests and convictions against your wife if they exist (during or prior to your marriage). Don't forget her charges or convictions of driving while intoxicated, public intoxication, drugs possession, or any other criminal violations. "Help" the law enforcement charge and possibly arrest you wife is she is engaging in illegal activity (including illegal drug use obviously). Records of your wife's arrests and convictions will help you during divorce. 26 Chapter 6 If you want custody of children. You will definitely need to see a qualified attorney and discuss it. You will need to seek sole custody or primary custody. You will have to show that you will provide better overall environment for raising children than your wife and that it is in the best interest of the child to be with you (or primarily be with you). The easiest way to do it is to show that your wife is abusive or otherwise unfit mother. The more negative evidence against your wife described in the previous chapter you have, the better your chances will be. In addition to any evidence that your wife is abusive and otherwise unfit, record evidence of her pursuing interests that conflict with raising children. Just about anything that does not involve caring for children can be included here. Particularly things that may show that she is irresponsible, things like going out with friends to bars, or trips to Las Vegas. Courts no longer automatically give custody to women. You do have a chance to get custody even if both of you seemingly qualify to get custody. Things that will work in your favor as it relates to custody: · Anything illegal and unethical she does. Any evidence against your wife described in the previous chapter. · Your wife works long hours (or she is planning to work long hours). · Your wife has sexual relationships with more than one person. · Her new boyfriend sleeps over in her house. · Your wife is not in a position to provide stability and continuity for the child. · Your wife bad-mouths you to the child. · Your wife has a history of mental health problems (particularly depression). · Your wife is seeing (or saw in the past) psychiatrist or any other mental health professional. · Your wife takes (or took in the past) anti-depression medication. · Your wife wants to move or does not know where she really wants to live. · Your wife is going to school. Her future life path is unclear. · Your wife leaves children alone. · Your wife likes to go out with friends. 27 · Anything else she does that may fall under the category of "Ignoring children". It can be argued that she "derelicts in her duties as a mother". You and your wife will be evaluated on the above and other factors. The more factors are in your favor, the better your chances of getting custody. Make sure and document things your wife does that will increase your chances of getting custody. Have a history of caring for your children: get involved with their school, take them to their activities, to doctor’s appointments, cook for them, put them to bed, etc… Make sure you have as many records of you caring for children as possible. You want to be as much involved with their lives as possible. Do not move out of the house. Don't let children stay with your wife or her parents before and during divorce. Your wife's attorney will argue that you voluntarily abandoned your children or that you reached an informal agreement with your wife giving her custody. You may want to try to persuade your wife to move away or travel "for a while" while you stay with the children during divorce. You may be able to argue that moving children from the stable environment you created will be detrimental to them. Consider getting a Temporary Restraining Order (TRO), specifying that the children are prohibited from being taken out of the State. This will prevent your spouse from taking the children to another State and concealing them, something she may be legally able do if there is no TRO in place. You may be able to persuade your wife not to seek custody because children will be a “burden” for her. That might work if your wife has a career she wants to pursue. You can tell your wife that you will be pursuing a non-profit career and her child-support payments will be miniscule. Remind her how much children cost, and how much better off she will be without the burden of children (particularly regarding her career and dating life). There is absolutely no guarantee that it will work, but it may be worth a try. Here is an important thing to understand about modern American women. A lot of them regret having children. The reason many of them want custody is not because they genially want to raise children, but rather because they hate you and want to punish you by keeping you away from children. So children often become a sick power play on their part. Keep that in mind when you talk to her about children. If you make her think that she is not punishing you by fighting for custody, then she may not fight for it on the first place. 28 Chapter 7 Marital torts. Consider filing one and know that your wife may file one against you. Marital tort is basically a lawsuit one spouse can file against another spouse. The reasons for the lawsuit are usually claims that the other spouse injured or harmed you, including causing you mental or emotional stress. You need to be aware that your wife may bring marital tort suit against you (including doing so frivolously). You also need to consider filing your own marital tort suit against your wife. You'd be in a good position if you file the lawsuit first and force your wife defending herself instead of attacking you. Discuss it with your lawyer. Here are the reasons your can use to file marital tort against your wife: · Intentional infliction of emotional distress. You can claim that your wife "intentionally or recklessly caused you severe emotional distress". Any occurrences of her yelling and insulting can be considered emotional abuse. If it emotionally bothers you, then it can become a basis for a lawsuit. · Domestic violence. Any threats of violence or violence described in chapter 5 can be grounds for filing a marital tort. · Sexual tort. You can file sexual tort claim against your wife if she gave you sexually transmitted disease, particularly if you allege that she had extramarital affair(s). Below are some additional suggestions from divorce books for women. Just reverse the sexes, then you can use the same advice against her. "By rolling the dice with a marital tort suit, you can let the court decide just how despicable your husband is, and how much compensation you should get for putting up with him for so many years". "Filing a tort case against a husband can create leverage to get a larger divorce settlement". "The advantage of these particular suits is that you don't have to have solid proof as a basis for a claim to sue... The entire claim can be structured on your oral statements of evidence concerning his actions towards you." 29 "Another potential benefit of a marital tort claim is that a lawyer will pursue that claim on a contingency fee basis, for a percentage of the damages awarded by the court." "Basically, by filing a marital tort claim, you can't lose. At worst, you will get free representation on a percentage that will enable you to harass your husband for a year or more in court." 30 Chapter 8 Prenuptial and Postnuptial contract can be challenged in court. Below are suggestions from divorce books for women: "Challenge your prenuptial or postnuptial contract whenever you have any real basis for challenge, regardless how small". "You signed the contract under false pretenses". You agreed to the contract based on an inaccurate fact or set of facts. You thought he was healthy, he turned out to be ill. You thought he could have children, he could not, etc... "You were fraudulently induced to sign the marriage contract". Your husband had misinformed you before you signed it. He hid assets from you. "The contract is unfair and unconscionable". The contract is unfair if it is biased in favor of your husband. So basically any good contract can be argued to be unfair and therefore void on this ground. "You should ALWAYS claim that the contract is unfair". Challenge any contract using "Other loopholes". "The threat of the challenge may be enough to get your husband to give you more than the contract specifies". "Even if the claim is entirely invalid, your husband's lawyer will have to charge him substantially to defend him". So it might be cheaper for your husband just to give you what you want instead of fighting your false claims. 31 Chapter 9 Warning signs that your wife is preparing to divorce you. She starts spending time with new female friends. Watch for any new female friend(s) you wife may have. Pay particular attention to women who are not friendly towards you. That may mean that your wife is learning to hate you and she is preparing to divorce you. A lot of these women will be overweight, with short butchy hair, look asexual, and probably older than your wife. These type of women basically become older uglier mentors to your wife. They hate men and they hate you. They will brainwash your wife until she becomes one of them. You need to be seriously concerned if you start noticing your wife spending time with women like that. There is absolutely nothing you can do to get your wife back on your side at this point. Her female friends are less friendly towards you than they used to be. You wife started badmouthing you and she is getting ready to divorce you. Her female friend(s) get divorced. That may sound ridiculous, but her close friend getting divorced is likely to have a strong influence on your wife. Watch for the other signs described in this chapter ever closer. She is becoming emotionally withdrawn, yet superficially "nice". She is becoming emotionally withdrawn because she is learning to hate you before filing for divorce. She is superficially nice and friendly because divorce books teach her not to alarm you until the divorce is official. She starts going out with single or divorced friends. She is probably doing it as part of her pre-divorce withdrawal process. She starts watching Oprah, Dr Phil, or other similar shows. She is either preparing divorce, or just learning how to nag, be unhappy and depressed, and blame you for everything. So either you'll be getting divorced soon or your life will turn to once continuing nag. 32 She buys books and self-improvement, finding true meaning in life, etc… These books will teach her that you are to blame for all her problems and that she needs to leave you in order to be happy. She stops working. All divorce books for women emphasize that women should not work or work as little as possible before filing for divorce. She wants to live a more lavish lifestyle. That's another thing all divorce books for women emphasize. She wants to have a record of lavish life, so she can get as much money from you as possible during divorce and possibly get alimony after divorce. Your wife wants to do expensive home improvements or buy expensive furniture. She knows that she will probably keep the house with all the improvements you paid for after the divorce. Your wife starts seeing psychologist (and gets you to pay for it). Nothing good can come out of it. Either she is genially going crazy, or she is planning to use psychologist to accuse you of various things during divorce. "You could have the satisfaction of knowing that your husband is paying for his own character assassination" – quote from a divorce book for women. Watch your credit cards. All divorce books for women advice them to run up credit cards. She is asking you about financial records and any assets she may not be aware of or she is making inquiries about your finances. Divorce books teach her to gather all your financial records. Your wife spends time in your office by herself. She may drop by your office unexpectedly and say to the receptionist that she is there to drop off a gift. What she wants is to find financial documents you may be keeping in your office. 33 Your wife starts talking to your stockbroker or business associates about your assets. Or she is trying to befriend your stockbroker or business associates. One trick she may use is call them and tell them that she needs some information urgently to "help her husband". Your wife is befriending your secretary. She is fishing for information about you. She may even try talking to your associates secretaries or your broker's secretaries. 34 Chapter 10 Divorce advice your wife will be getting. Below are the exact quotes from divorce books for women: · Be unemployed for as long a period of time as possible prior to filing for divorce. · Hire a detective to prove your husband has a bad character, and pay for the services with your husband's money. · Always ask for more than what is fair, and substantially more than you think you deserve. · The less disposable income he has (after divorce), the more satisfied you can be. · Planning for your divorce requires a minimum of six months... The more money he has, the more time you will need to develop your plan. · Preparation for your divorce is the most important test of your life. · Shift substantial portions monetary assets (investment accounts, retirement plans, homes, vehicles, other personal property) into your name prior to filing for divorce. · You can be awarded more assets if you know about more assets. · Remind yourself that it is a divorce war, everything is fair. · Up to eighty percent of all testimony in divorce courts is either an embellishment or an outright lie… Most divorce judges will presume that people in divorce situations will lie in court. · Photograph all personal property. · Find and review your husband's tax returns. Payroll stubs. Loan applications and financial statements. · Cash checks at grocery stores. · Use cash advances on credit cards in your husband's name. · Buy assets... Judges overlook, or sometimes ignore, pre-divorce spending on assets. · Redecorate the house with new furniture. · Purchase a new car just before divorce. Be certain that your husband pays for the car in cash. · Stay or be unemployed before divorce. · Wait till he falls asleep. Rifle through his pockets. · Does he fall asleep after sex? Have fun -- then rifle through his pockets! · Go to Las Vegas or Atlantic City and tell him you lost it all -- except you did not. · If your husband pays your credit card bills but won't share his cash, charge! Then return for cash refund or resell that expensive stuff to friends. · If you cook, serve him hamburger, not steak. Pocket the difference. · If a bill is for $220, round it up to a nearest hundred and enter $300. · "Pay" the same phone or utility bill three times each month. 35 · Always carry something to remind you of your husband...like his credit card. · Secrets are not necessarily bad. Putting money away can be a wonderful thing for a relationship. · The first one who gets to the bank is the one to empty the joint accounts. · Learn to aggravate your husband whenever possible. Criticize him daily... Accuse him of having affairs (falsely)... Lend his money to your relatives... Run up his credit cards... Nag, Nag, Nag... · Control your husband by being alternately loving and indifferent to keep him in a state of continual concern. · His money is going to be your money anyway when he drops dead

  188. Jessica Alba

    nomarriage.com The purpose of NoMarriage.com website is to allow men to better understand two very important issues that get very little attention: # 4 out of 5 men regret marrying. Divorce rate is around 60%. Majority of remaining married men are stuck in sexless marriages with nagging and bitching wives, but they choose not to divorce because they are afraid of being wiped out financially during divorce. Furthermore, majority of relatively happy marriages are among very religious people, people choosing to live a simple lifestyle, people living in the rural South/Midwest, and recent Hispanic immigrants. 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This "princess" syndrome means that she will always think that she is better than you, and that she deserves and she is entitled to whatever she wants from you. 3. Her general mental instability and psychological disorders. 4. Her using sex as a weapon and reward to get things. Foreign women generally don't have any of these problems. Marrying an American woman simply does not make sense. The ONLY reason men stay with American women is because they did not have enough exposure to foreign women. Any man who spent a few months in Brazil or Russia will not even look at American women again. Dating or being married to an American woman is like driving a beat-up Ford Escort. If you are only used to driving a beat-up Ford Escort, then you have no idea what it feels like when you drive a Bentley or Ferrari. Frequently Asked Questions Is this website for real? Yes. This website is very serious. Most men are in denial about this subject until after they are already trapped. 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Women to avoid are women interested in Career, Personal Success, Personal Growth, Finding Themselves, and Self-improvement. That includes all career women and the majority of other North American and Western European women. I mostly use "American woman" throughout the website because it bacame synonymous with everything that is wrong with modern western women. Substitute American with British, Canadian, Australian, Scandinavian, etc if you don't live in the US. How/why did you start the website? Around the year 2000 I was in my late 20s and I noticed that almost all American women around me are either already mentally unstable, or they become mentally unstable after marriage. So married men are forced to live their lives constantly trying to please their wife's ever-evolving needs and wants, as well as constantly trying to prove and validate themselves to their wives. I started doing surveys and researching it further. I then put together the website and wrote the book. This whole thing is a public service announcement more than anything else. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/faq.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/faq.html Is the website written by you? Most of it is not. It's a collective thinking of many different men (I found most of it on various discussion forums). The book is written by me. Why are you against children? I am not against children at all. I just don't want my children to be raised by a modern western woman, whom I view as a selfish parasite. "Anti-children" rhetoric on my site is not about any anti-children ideology; they are just quotes that reflect the reality that many parents regret having children for whatever reasons. Are you divorced? I am 34. I have never been married and I don't have children. At this point I have very little contact with western women. I am not interested in getting married because I don't want to have children at this time. I will only marry a woman from Latin America if I ever decide I want to have children, and I will most likely move to Latin America permanently by then. I am trapped in a bad marriage. What should I do? Probably get a divorce. Then take a long vacation in Brazil so you can get a perspective on how real women should be. Order Fire Your Wife also. The book will help you understand what is wrong with your marriage and what your next pre-divorce steps should be. What are people saying about your site/book? I HAD to email to say, I wish I had visited your site four years ago! I've travelled overseas a lot, and everything you write is 95% true! If I had seen your site before, I wouldn't be saddled with two kids and an ungrateful wife who cares nothing about her appearances since the marriage! I would kill, at this point, to be able to take your advice about foreign women! Anyway, for all men who haven't been suckered yet, I want to thank you much for your services and hope that everyone that sees your site takes your advice! Again, thank you. Good to see that someone is running an informative website where men who are in denial and the inexperienced youth can go and read the truth. This is so true... it should be in the Bible, under the Psalms... Good write-up about the site written by a woman - check it out if you are still skeptical. Email me at noMarriageSite (at) Yahoo (dot) com if you have any further questions. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/comments.shtml http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/comments.shtml 80% of American women develop Postpartum Depression after giving birth. * more on statistics "Postpartum depression is a common, but frequently unrecognized, devastating mood disorder," says Kathryn Leopold, M.D., assistant professor of obstetrics at Albany Medical Center in New York. Postpartum depression (developed within six weeks of delivery) is severe and long-lasting, with symptoms including: Anxiety, sadness or despair (constant mental basketcase and bitchy attitude) Feelings of worthlessness or guilt, especially failure at motherhood (you will be blamed for everything she does wrong) Loss of interest in usually pleasurable activities (sex stops, constant nagging starts) Difficulty concentrating or making decisions (similar to mentally retarded child) Fatigue (did nothing the whole day, yet always tired) Changes in appetite or sleep (becomes fat, then obese) Recurrent thoughts of death or suicide (completely mentally insane) The point here is that you don't want women's problems to become your problems. 67% of "women of independent minds" agree that they are mentally messed up. And that's before they give birth and have Postpartum depression on top of their existing mental problems. Truly scary stuff. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/postpartum_depression.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/postpartum_depression.html Why men should not marry. All the older guys I know, guys that are 55 and older are telling me the same story; don't do it. It just turns to crap no matter what you do. They'd rather be independent. At best it's a tedious bore. At worst a living hell with financial ruin thrown in for good measure. The problem is that when you're young, you just naturally fall into this mind set where your whole self image is based on how women regard you, and so you spend all your money and energy trying to make yourself acceptable to them. Then later in life the shine wears off and you finally realize that you've wasted yourself on a bunch of crap. Children - "the ultimate human experience" I couldn't even begin to list all of the older folks i know from work or through my family with kids they either don't get along with, are disappointed in, or are so distant as to not even be a factor in each other's lives. I'm really skeptical about the idea of children as "the ultimate blessing." How many friends do you have with little or no meaningful contact or relationships with their parents? I would wager the statistic for happy child/parent relations would be as bad, if not worse, than the marriage numbers. Who wants to deal with TWO bitter, unfulfilling relationships?! Marriage is a sham for men. There is no benefit. If you are about to get married, think it over. Don't let your dick do your thinking for you. Don't let your punch-drunk I'm in love euphoria put you on autopilot. You will wake up in a hell of a hangover staring at this woman who will control your life. A few years ago I went through a major depression over this until I started talking to all the older guys I knew...and they all said the same thing; "don't do it, it's shit. Even when it's not bad, it's shit". You end up being closely tied to an old woman. Think about that. I can go to Europe or the south seas tomorrow. If I was married I wouldn't have the money and I'd have to ask HER permission. Don't get married unless you are absolutely religiously in love with her. Like carry her sick aged body to the toilet and wipe her ass and be happy to do it kind of love. What I'm saying is that human beings are nasty weak treacherous creatures that are for the most part totally untrustworthy. Experience is my basis for this statement, both mine and others who I know or who have written reliable histories. If you can find a woman to be your companion who is not treacherous, a deceitful little actress, a sly whore or a manipulative nag or a shrieking hag, then you are among the lucky few. Congratulations. I hope your luck continues to hold out. Ok, assume that you will end up divorced and won't see your kids and lose half of your assets, how different is that from being married? Most married guys I know are working their asses off to pay bills, rarely to get to spend time with their families, mediocre or no sex life, and have wives that spend as much of their money as absolutely possible. My problem with marriage isn't a fear of divorce; it is that the whole thing sucks divorce or not. What security is there for men in marriage? If I cheat on my wife, she gets half my shit. If she cheats on me, she still gets half my shit. Why the fuck should i get married? Fuck it man, it's easy to get depressed about not being married when we live in a society that constantly feeds us the image of the happy couple. It's one big lie. The happiest person alive is someone who isn't a prisoner dependent on another human being... We only have 80 or so years on this rock to achieve true freedom Very few marriages last nowadays, and even guys older than me are telling me not to even think about it... It's a grossly overrated source of happiness. And for the 80% that do go through divorce, it will financially ruin you for life. Period. You can take your best 10 earning years from say, 35 to 45 and take all the wealth you would have accumulated and flush it down the toilet. Because it will go to her and her lawyer. If it happens naturally and it's good then great, good luck. But the worst thing is to force it, to make gross exertions and ignore all sorts of red lights going off just to be hooked up and "normal". Get some hobbies. Relax. Hang out. Enjoy. Take life as it comes. As men, we all know that a woman's primary objective is to marry. After years of experience I've discovered their most commonly used strategy. here it is: 1. Girl pressures guy for marriage. 2. Guy delays. 3. Girl gradually starts destroying guy's self-esteem and eliminating his friends. 4. Guy becomes too weak and too much of a loser to find something better than what he has. 5. Girl starts to limit sex. In effect controlling the only good thing in the guy's life. 6. Guy is in despair. Capitulates to marriage. Then 5-10 years later the guy is an empty shell of his former self. Girl is a ruthless manipulating machine. Girl divorces loser husband. Girl takes 80% of guy's stuff because the guy is too brain dead to find a good lawyer. Girl lives happily ever after. Guy becomes bald alcoholic who dies of heart attack at 45 years old. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/why_men_should_not_marry.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/why_men_should_not_marry.html Sex after marriage stops. Here's why I'll be with my girlfriend tonight and not my wife. Two phone calls this afternoon: 1. Me: Hey sweetie, my mom called and she wants the kids to stay over tonight. What do you say I pick up a bottle of wine and we open up the hottub. Wife: No, John, you know Tuesdays are difficult days. I had carpool this morning and I'm just too tired. . . . 2. Me: Hey sugar, you want to get a drink tonight after work? Girlfriend: Why don't we just go to my place? My wife reads in the kitchen until I fall asleep to avoid having sex with me, or if I am not tired, she waits until I am in the shower and then gets into bed and goes to sleep. Prior to marriage: Real sex is unequivocal to anything else, including food and oxygen. Porn is only there if you're in-between girls. Up to four years of marriage: Sex is great and when you finish with the foreplay (usually 30 minutes of begging), you have a pretty good time. Porn is okay After four or more years of marriage: Sex = Been there, done that, nothing new. Porn is now the better since at least you're seeing something new and fresh. Sorry girls, we love you forever, but even eating steak and lobster gets old if you do it too much. My take on marriage: It's a great way to complicate an otherwise amicable business relationship with sex. I can remember my last blowjob like it was yesterday. Actually it was six years ago the day before I got married. Sex then was four to five times a week. Now I have a four year old son who sleeps in my bed with my wife more nights a week than I do. Sex now maybe once a month. Triple that for vacation sex. I have noticed that the rate goes up for a short period of time but drops off quickly when large purchases are made (house, Landrover, shopping sprees, new floors, etc). I am thirty eight, not happy, and slowly methodically plotting my way out. I always love the look in the eyes of my friends who say that won't happen to them. When we were changing for the reception after the wedding and I tried to kiss her (and after 3 years of mind-bending sex), my wife of 45 minutes said "No more of that. We're married now." My wife was a frigid, shriveled bitch. Before we were married, we had plenty of sex, but as soon as we passed the six month mark after our wedding, she stopped being interested. My wife only fucks when she "feels sexy." Translation: when I give her jewellery. She is just a withered old bag at the age of 35. My granddad told me an insightful story before my wedding. He said for the first year of marriage to put a penny in a jar every time I had sex with my wife. Starting in year two, take out two pennies every time we had sex. He said there'd be money in the jar when I died. I think he's going to be right. I've been married 15 years and my wife and I have lived most of that as brother and sister. There has been no sex AT ALL for the last four years. Get a girlfriend or get used to it. Marriage is all about learning how to do without sex. My wife reached a point where she only uses sex to get something, and she doesn't happen to want anything at the moment. My GF was damn good to me, in and out of the sack. We probably had sex, on average, 10-15 times a week. Anywhere and everywhere. Even a once a day BJ on average. Things were great. That was, until we got married. A day later, everything had changed. Got it once on the honeymoon, and she told me to "hurry up and finish". When I ask her why she never initiates anything, never even flirts anymore, when she used to before, she says "I was trying to get you to marry me then". I have been married 3 times. Yup, slooooowwww learner. Each time it was good/great sex before marriage and lucky to have any sex after the first year of marriage. No more sex. Period. She's too busy spending my money putting traventine in the entryway, redoing the kitchen with Corian, redecorating the bedroom, having parties, and all that other shit, or talking to girlfriends incessantly about the same. Wife is overweight, no sex, doesn't cook anything not in a can. 3 kids. I am stuck. I can't even cheat on her since we do a mail order company out of the house. No alone time, no peace. I think I am going crazy. Oh, another fun aspect - wife is a born again Christian, so if I bring up the sex issue she uses the bible to justify herself. I argue that, and kazam, I am Satan, and no sex for Satan. If I do not argue, no sex for me either. I used to pay a lot for sex, like my whole salary. Then I got a divorce and now sex is easy, fun and free! My little sis is married and has two kids under 6 years. She says that sex to her is "just one more person wanting something from me". I walked into a large bedroom when my wife was changing into her outfit to get on the plane to start our honeymoon, admired her gorgeous half-naked figure with a 'you wanna knock one out right here and now' look on my face, and she said, "Oh, no. None of that nonsense. We're married now." I mean she changed *instantly* from this funny happy woman into this scheming bitch who just had plans to buy and redecorate a big house and throw parties in it with my money. Here is a typical married woman: I give birth to your kids and you complain we don't have sex? How do you think they were born, osmosis? Who takes care of them, drives them to school, picks them up for after school activities, drives them to sports, takes them to their friends houses, plays chauffeur, cleans, cooks, goes to PTA meetings and then caters to your sorry whiney ass when you get home. To top it off after you eat, fart or burp you walk out the door and go out with your buddies. You want sex? Go fuck yourself! I'm too tired. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/marriedsex.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/marriedsex.html Only marry foreign women. "Now you understand why US men prefer foreign born women: THEY TREAT US BETTER, RESPECT US, APPRECIATE THAT AFFECTION WE SHOW THEM, AND ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE A BETTER LIFE." A huge percentage of American women are selfish, flighty, insecure, needy and psychotic, and quite capable of concealing those traits during the dating phase White 'career' American chicks are the bottom of the barrel marriage-wise. Foreign women from South America, Eastern Europe, and Asia are at the top. Only guys who travel (in other words, guys who are successful and ambitious enough to travel a lot) find these. But they never, ever go back. Foreign-born women living in the US are the next best. They get married early...they are highly soughtafter by American guys for their wifely skills (hell, any women who has ANY ability to be a wife is better than your average American chick, who knows NOTHING about being a wife) Bottom of the barrel---white American chicks. Yecch. Here's a story: I knew a guy who was Hungarian (parents emigrated) who tried for 15 years to find a half-decent women to marry. He's a doctor, by the way. Finally after 8 psycho-weirdo US chicks, he went back to the 'old country' to find a wife. The people there were lining the women up for him to meet...he's a rich American guy...they are considered the best husbands in the world. He found this lovely wife. She is a total gem, and he's happy as hell. 2 kids. Happily ever after. I will go one step further and differentiate between Western women vs. non-Western women. This is not just an American phenomenon, most women in Western countries have that cold, bitchy, superficial, stuck up attitude. A lot of Western women hold themselves as the pure center of the relationship. If the men don't fit a rigid and unrealistic criteria or she doesn't feel the man can take care of her enough (even if she has a higher paying job) then she will drop him like a hot potato, regardless of his character or commitment to the relationship. Popular Myth: Western men looking for foreign wives are only seeking subservient slaves. Truth: Most Western men today are evolved and modern and truly believe in the 50/50 system. Most Western men are dismayed by the lack of sincerity of Western women. I can do my own laundry and cooking thank you! Yes, Latin American and Eastern European women do make better mates because both come from more conservative and family oriented cultures where relationships and commitment are actually revered. I was absolutely blown away by the quality of women on my trip to eastern Europe. Classy, cultured, traditional values, how could you ask for more? One year with my Japanese girlfriend So far... -No fights. -Great sex every night. -She cooks a delicious meal every night (unless I take her out). -No guilt trips for going out with the guys. -Thin and absolutely beautiful. Think I've finally found myself a keeper. One thing's for sure; I'll never go date an American girl again. Latin American women seem to make decent wives. My friend married a hot girl from Venezuela. Sweet, beautiful, cooks, cleans, and is the perfect wife. Like how American women were in the 1950s America. As I said, it's a competitive marketplace. We're not looking to marry other men. The real world is not about what is fair, but what you can get. American men have options. American women do not. So the American women huff and puff, and scowl at the incoming foreign brides who don't demand the feminazi equality bullshit. You WISH American men didn't have choices. You're like a labor union that's pissed off because the company is hiring non-union employees. Honestly I wish I could have found an American wife with all the qualities of my foreign wife. I could not, because they do not exist. Here is a partial list of her loveliness 1: Sensible and good with money. 2: Genuine commitment. 3: Very family oriented. 4: She enjoys housework. 5: Hard working. 6: She does not have to diet to look great Foreign women are comfortable in their femininity. As a male I am attracted to this. And I love her with all my heart. I believe that American women have priced themselves out of the marketplace. Too needy, too many headgames, too easy to divorce. Not many foreign men want American wives either. American women.. - highest maintenance (I've never heard of a foreign bride demanding her husband buy expensive house & cars) - fattest in the world - most likely to cheat - highest rate of divorce (60% - US-US marriages; 20% - US-foreign marriages) - largest payout in divorce court (you'll be ass-raped for everything you earned, plus most of what you will earn for years to come) - bitchiest - most likely to nag constantly - most likely to believe in feminism and "equality" - most likely to hate men - spend least amount of time with her children - worst at cooking and cleaning - fucked & chucked by tons of guys before tricking you into marriage 3 reasons to marry an American woman 1. You actually believe BBW = big BEAUTIFUL wife. 2. You believe nagging is essential for personal growth. 3. You really look forward to the day your BBW wife divorces you and you gladly fork over 50% over your hard earned assets, plus child support and alimony (a lard ass bitch for sure is not going to have a good job). Then after that you have to figure out how to live on 20% of your income. Every foreign girl I've met was superior in every conceivable way to any other girl I've known, from attractiveness to personality. I have a foreign Latino girl and she blows away American women. This web site are 100% true; I can speak from experience of living with my girl for a month. I could never go back to American trash women. I also use to think web sites like that were stupid until I had the experience for myself. It has changed my life for the better, made me look at American women in a different light. I wouldn't even consider dating an American women, the majority are bitchy prudes that only put out when they think they can cash in. I for one will never spend a huge amount of money of some stupid bitch just to get laid. Mexican and Asian women are a much better choice and they look better than American chics too. After many many years of dealing with American women, I've hit an interesting point. I've lost ALL sexual interest in them, in fact I just about puke walking down the sidewalk on any day, seeing all those shitty, rude, mean, snotty American women. Strange thing, cause for so long I've been quite a horndog, chasing women at all levels. I'm still totally attracted to foreign women...Indians, Orientals, Europeans. But show me an American chick and I basically couldn't care less. Tell me how "beautiful" she is...doesn't matter. I suppose from an intellectual viewpoint I can see the beauty, but it's not any more attractive to me than...let's say...admiring a beautiful horse or a well-groomed cat. OK, admirable, but not sexy folks. They say that sex is 90% mental...well, my mind has rejected American women completely. Since I've been traveling overseas I have met many nice Japanese, Russian, and Spanish women. I can tell you this....the women are so much better. I want a lady that, when I get home from work, would rather kiss me than scream at me for some trivial reason like I didn't mow the lawn. I can do without the nagging thanks. To all my fellow American men... American women are easily replaceable...go Asian, or Russian, even European (except British, Italian, and French women) and you can't go wrong. Experience is the best teacher. I can not date white American women anymore. I was in the navy and I have seen the light. Women from other countries just look better and treat you better too! I didn't pay for shit when I was overseas and I pay up the wazoo here. Any rational person can figure it out from here. American women are high-maintenance primadonnas with attitudes. I'd take a foreign born Russian or Latina woman any day. They are much nicer and normally MUCH SMARTER than most American women - plus they don't watch Rosie and Ricci Lake - they go to the library or perform outside activities. Dating or being married to an American woman is like driving a beat-up Ford Escort. If you are only used to driving a beat-up Ford Escort, then you have no idea what it feels like when you drive a Bentley or Ferrari. You need to at least test-drive a Ferrari, so you'll have a reference point on what a real car feels like. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/why_foreign_women_are_better.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/why_foreign_women_are_better.html Marry only if YOU want children. Marriage today is really for weak men or for men who want to raise a family. I'd rather be single or fuck 20-something prostitutes in Germany, Australia, etc, than spend the last 50 years of my life chained to an old, wrinkled, nagging, bitchy woman who could ass rape me in divorce court at the drop of a hat. I don't get lonely. I'm not needy, insecure, dependent. I don't need the security blanket of a lifetime companion. The only reason I would ever get married is for having kids.. and for that, there is no way I'd marry an American woman. If looking for a good housewife, mother and role model for my children, foreign women (and American women pre-1950s) fit the bill much better. Women need proof that if they're going to have your kids, that you'll be around to take care of them (and that if you break up, you'll bear part of the burden of raising them). So, if you're not having kids, I don't see the point. Lots of guys are wising up to this fact. The best piece of advice ever given to me was "only get married if you are absolutely sure you want to have kids." As it turns out, I was absolutely sure and finally got married. I took a long time to find the right woman. It's a lot of work, but I am happy because the lady I ended up with is an equal in most every way. She is very capable and not looking for "someone to take care of her." Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/kids.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/kids.html Children are so overrated. There is an unspoken taboo in our society where if you admit that having kids wasn't quite what you thought it would be and that if you could do it all over again that you would have chosen NOT to have kids, that you are a monster, an evil, despicable monster. The truth is a large percentage of parents HATE being parents. They will never say it out loud and they can't even admit that to themselves because "only an evil demon" would come to that conclusion, they think. However, underneath it all, underneath all the B.S. is the truth that we all know: Children are overrated. For every precious moment where the little brat does something special, there are 1,000 moments where they drive you crazy. They literally tear your life upside down. Marriage, sex life, your wives appearance, your social life, the list goes on and on and on. Oh yeah, the worst part is yet to come - the teenage years. I could write volumes on this subject. The reason people have children is because of this unwritten societal norm where the standard is to get married and immediately begin to produce offspring because "that's the thing to do". Here's another fact for you if you're interested in the subject: the highest points of martial satisfaction are: 1) after the kids leave and 2) before the kids were born. Look it up, it's true. I decided not to have kids or a wife... And haven't regretted it one bit!!! I look at all my sorry faced friends straining to make ends meet, having the endless honey do lists, soccer games, Dr bills, bitching, whinny little brats, debt up their asses!!.....and me....well I focused on work and saving money and have no debt, date all different kinds of women, no strings attached, buying a brand new custom house that my friends and family can only dream about, and will be able to retire at 45..... Yea, I may grow up old and have no one but look....most of you will be divorced and so broke after raising kids, alimony, child support, kids college...that you will have nothing to show for it when you are 65 and still have to work till your are dead......sorry thats reality. My relatives have given up asking. They know better. Then someone always pulls me aside and says, "I would love to have your life". I think most people end up having kids because 1) They're too stupid to know how to use birth control properly and/or 2) They have an idealistic, completely unrealistic vision of what parenthood entails. People imagine dressing their daughter in pretty clothes, or playing catch with their son. They don't think about being awoken at 2 a.m. by a sick, screaming kid who just threw up all over the bed, and who doesn't give a shit that you have to get up for work in four hours. They don't think about the mortgage company threatening to foreclose, or the electricity being shut off, because the husband can't pay all the bills on one income. More people should think about these things, and fewer people should be having children. Parenthood should be left to those few couples who are willing to take the good with the bad. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/children.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/children.html Why marriage no longer makes sense. Traditional marriage balances different privileges and obligations for men and women. Modern woman wants all the benefits of "equality" without any of the responsibilities. Traditional Western culture balanced special privileges for women with special obligations, and the same for men. Equality states that no one get special privileges, and that responsibilities and rights should be equally shared. Either system is balanced and fair. The problem with modern Western culture is that many women want only the positives from both systems: They want special privileges from the traditional system (men paying, being "gentlemen" by using special deferential manners and language to women, being the main breadwinner, etc) but not the oldfashioned obligations (being modest and ladylike, being a housewife, etc). They want the positives of equality (rights, equal access to work and education, etc) without the responsibilities (paying your own way financially a full 50% for life, taking risks with no safety net, and taking your lumps without complaint like men do...not expecting to be protected or sheltered from harsh reality, etc). You can't take only the good from both systems...you have to take the bad with the good in any balance you strike. When women try to have their cake and eat it in this way, the bad doesn't disappear...it gets paid by men, and this is why the current culture is one of exploitation by selfish hypocritical women...and it's why men are tired of the inequity. If American women chose one system or the other and took their full share of the bad with the good there would be no problem. But current American culture discourages women being looked at critically, instead projecting all blame unjustly onto men; and so the inequity is rationalized away. This is why other cultures which haven't got this fucked up as far as gender relations go, start to look attractive. The women there expect to give as well as get. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/nosense.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/nosense.html Examples of modern American women. The following was copied from the website of a woman critical of my site. This woman obviously thinks she is perfect, and that one day she will make a great wife. And somebody will probably marry her and then wonder why his marriage is not going well. 4.31am - Arrive home. Briefly debate removing make up, before concluding that there's nothing in my house that couldn't be improved by a little glittery eyeshadow smeared over it. Go to bed. 5.50am - Wake with terrible desire for Ribena. 6.32am - Throw up. Reflect that although can quite easily identify the cause of the purple component, the bright yellow remains a mystery. 6.48am - Throw up again. Remember falteringly the previous night's experiments with yellow chartreuse, hitting self hard on the forehead all the while. 7.07am - Fall asleep on bathroom floor. 8.44am - Wake, remove contact lenses, go back to sleep. 10.22am - Wake up with very bad feeling in the spleen area due to sudden recollection of phone call to ex boyfriend at two in the morning and inability to remember what was said. Check call duration: seven minutes. Jesus fuck Jesus fuck. 10.59am - Wake with earth-splitting headache: go in search of and locate the last two remaining Nurofen in the house. 11.15am - Throw up last two remaining Nurofen in the house. Swear expansively. 2.03pm - Woken by the arrival of text message from ex boyfriend, pissing himself over seven-minute long answerphone message left last night of which he cannot make out a word. 3.11pm - Look for breakfast food. Have cornflakes but no milk, and tea bags but no kettle. Where is kettle? 3.17pm - Locate kettle half under bed in apparent abortive attempt to make hot water bottle the night before. Go back to bed. 4.14pm - Ex boyfriend rings, fancy the pub? Shower and leave. These allegedly 24yo (going on 40) women advertise themselves on a personals site as "fit built". So I am 47 years old, single again and dating. What I have found: The women are pigs. From meeting a couple do you know what they classify as an "average" build these days? Average is considered anything less then 300 lbs on a 5'2 lady. 300 to 500 is considered "Rubenesque" while over 500 is considered being a BBW which I have learned is "Big Beautiful Woman". Good God American women, you are turning into disgusting pigs! Picture of a Big Beautiful American woman relaxing in the park. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/modern_american_woman_1.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/modern_american_woman_1.html Dear Abby: I have been married for over 11 years. My marriage was a dream come true and appears to be ideal, with a loving husband, a big house, nice jobs, fancy vacations and now two children. A twist of fate started seven years ago when I was reunited with an old friend from high school. Within a year we became intimate and very attached. We tried to stop seeing each other, but our separations wouldn't last. Four years ago I got pregnant with my second child. It turns out the child is not my husband's. My friend wanted me to divorce my husband but could only offer his love and companionship and not the marriage or lifestyle I now have. I was scared of starting over in life. My secret relationship and all communication with my friend ended shortly after I gave birth. No one has any idea of our affair. I recently was in contact with him after 2 1/2 years. We still love each other, and I don't think I can live without him. I feel so guilty about my feelings that I cause a lot of arguments in my marriage. I mentioned divorce to my husband, so now we see a marriage counsellor. It has been helping. The problem is the entire story isn't out in the open. I know I really messed up. Help! Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/modern_american_woman_2.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/modern_american_woman_2.html The skanks on Capitol Hill by Michelle Malkin Jessica Cutler Meet the new Monica Lewinsky. Jessica Cutler, a 24-year-old mailroom clerk and phone receptionist, worked for Sen. Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, until last Friday -- when he fired her for using Senate computers to post to an Internet Web log that chronicled her trysts with six different men in Washington. Cutler's partners reportedly included government officials who gave her money for her sexual services. Diary excerpt: "I just took a long lunch with F and made a quick $400. When I returned to the office, I heard that my boss was asking about my whereabouts. Loser." In another entry, Cutler explains: "F(equals)Married man who pays me for sex. Chief of Staff at one of the gov agencies, appointed by Bush." Cutler, who aspired to be a journalist, spouted: "I'm sure I am not the only one who makes money on the side this way: How can anybody live on $25K/year??" When I was 24 and making less than that, I did it by eating Spaghetti-O's, Ramen noodles and Swanson pot pies for dinner; driving a Toyota Tercel with no air conditioning; and sleeping on a $30 futon. I did it the way most parents teach their daughters to succeed: through hard work, thrift, faith and perseverance. The Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post featured Cutler, who dubbed herself and her online diary "Washingtonienne," in a prominent story last Sunday headlined "The Hill's Sex Diarist Reveals All (Well, Some)." Cutler posed for a fetching photo and supplied juicy soundbites. "It's so cliched. It's like, 'There's a slutty girl on the Hill?' There's millions of 'em," Cutler told the Washington Post's Richard Leiby. Millions? Follow-up dispatches appeared in Roll Call, the New York Post, the London Independent, United Press International and the Associated Press, whose wire reports on Cutler were reprinted everywhere from the Akron Beacon Journal to the Houston Chronicle to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. The news media originally caught whiff of Cutler from an online D.C.-based gossip site, Wonkette.com, authored by "edgy" (read: profanity-laced and sex-obsessed) writer Ana Marie Cox, who herself has been recently touted extensively by adoring media fans. CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen hosted a tony party for Cox last month; Washington Post reporter Howard Kurtz invited her on his CNN show, where she boasted, "I'm the expert at talking dirty." Cutler and Cox, 31, appeared together on Fox News Channel this week, where they giggled and guffawed and rolled their eyes as they reveled in their sleazy celebrity. When Fox anchor Brigitte Quinn (who deserves a medal for her restraint) asked Cutler whether her parents knew about her raunchy sex life, she snorted: "They do now!" Cox cackled and went on to coo about Cutler's writing talent and future book publishing prospects. Cox generously mentioned she didn't want too much "credit" for Cutler's newfound notoriety. ("Credit?" Quinn mused subtly. "That's an interesting word.") This female Beavis and Butthead duo illustrate what normal Americans hate about the Capitol scene: narcissism, moral bankruptcy and self-congratulatory media-political incest. The Washington Post's legitimization of this shallow "story" illustrates something else: the mainstream media's perverted moral values. The paper's recent profiles and features of social conservatives drip with condescension and ridicule. Religious activists are portrayed as intolerant homophobes; Republicans as gun-toting rubes; abstinence promoters as freaks. But give The Washington Post two vain, young, trash-mouthed skanks who couldn't care less about what their parents think of their sex-drenched infamy, and the newspaper can't wait to help make them full-fledged members of the media elite. Cutler and Cox apparently have no trouble looking at themselves in the mirror every morning. I pity the mainstream journalists-turned-pimps who can do the same. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/article_jessica_cutler.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/article_jessica_cutler.html Any American man can find a good foreign girlfriend or wife. Don't get tricked into marrying American woman who will become a lazy fat nagging bitch, take your children away from you, and take all your money in divorce court. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/foreigngirl.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/foreigngirl.html Give me ONE good reason why a man should sign a marriage contract with an American woman. Give me one good reason why a man should sign the marriage contact with an American woman. With a foreign bride, I guess you need to sign the marriage contract so she can get her green card and move to the United States. Ok, fine. But with an American woman, why not just live with her and fuck her. Verbally commit for life if you want. The ONLY thing that signing that marriage contract will do is ensure that the man receives a solid ass raping in divorce court if the relationship doesn't work out. And since American-American marriages have a 60% divorce rate, that's a very real possibility. As a man, what's in it for me? Unless you are that dancer who married J-Lo of course. Love. >> Two people can love each other without the marriage contract. ** Doesn't feel like love in divorce court. *** Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another. Vowing that you have the faith and committment. >> You can make that vow without the marriage contract. ** Right up to the time the guy doesn't make enough $$ to keep her happy (moving target!!) And celebrating this with your friends and family. >> That's gay. ** What, holidays aren't enough? Health insurance. >> Minor benefit. If both people are working, it's a non-issue. And the marriage penalty in taxes offsets this benefit. ** That's a bullshit reason for getting married. Making it harder to abandon someone during the hard times. >> That's only a benefit to a woman because women get preferential treatment in divorce court. ** May make it harder on the guy, but women are OK bolting any fucking time. Especially the hard times. Ensuring that the world and society views you and treats you as a team. >> Why be a tool for society? Make your own decisions, and don't let society tell you how to live. ** Grow up already. Society doesn't give a rats ass about you or me. I ask: why not if you sign a pre-nup? >> Often, pre-nups expire after a certain amount of years. Plus, women now can contest pre-nups and essentially render them void. Pre-nups don't help at all in issues like who gets the kids, visitation rights, and child support. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/reasons.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/reasons.html Are you a loser or a pussy? Let's translate "loser" from women-speak into English. "Loser" in woman-speak simply means a man who is smart enough to do things that are in HIS best interest. · You don't spend your hard-earned money on women - you are a loser · You expect regular sex - you are a loser · You are not interested in marriage - you are a loser · You don't want to be stuck with kids - you are a loser · You don't want to slave away 60 hours a week so a woman can buy a new SUV every year - you are a loser · You prefer South American women who treat you better - you are a HUUGE LOOOSER The alternative to "loser" is a pussyfied man, or simply a pussy. A pussyfied man does what a woman wants - he is a docile schmuck who slaves away at work and pays her bills and not pesters her for sex. Another words, he is an ideal husband. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/loser.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/loser.html American women will bring out the WORST in you. Feminists believe that all men are evil abusers. When a man abuses them, deep down they feel a creamy sense of satisfaction. Their belief has been validated. Therefore they carefully craft a life, and surround themselves with people who will create more of this abuse. Thus further confirming their belief structure. This type of mentality has been studied and explored by countless psychologists, and is wellunderstood by all people with common sense. Also, there is a more dangerous issue, here. Men are very "susceptible" to women's opinions of us. Let's face it guys, when we get married, we are very likely to start changing in response to our woman's needs. We can't help it...her emotions are so strong, and our sense of responsibility to her is so deep, that we can't help but slowly become the man she envisions us to be. That can be good, or bad. A man who is married to an angry feminist will often become more abusive, fulfilling her expectations of him. She accuses him of shit he didn't do...finally he thinks "well, if she's going to treat me like a scumbag, then by golly I should just go ahead and be a scumbag." On the other hand, a man who marries a loving woman (who trusts men) will usually become more worthy of trust, thus fulfilling her expectations of him. The old cliche of "behind every great man is great woman" is so true. Men, choose your wife carefully. Her mental image of men will probably become your destiny. Avoid women who think badly of men (which as you know, includes the vast majority of American women). American women have been born and raised in the corrosive negative world of feminism. They can't help but think like a feminist and view the world like a feminist. So they have learned to always emphasize the negative things about men, never the positive. In any given opportunity... instead of saying "he's protective" they'll say "he's oppressive" instead of saying "he's smart" they'll complain "he demeans my intelligence" instead of saying "he's hard-working" they'll say "he's obsessed with work" instead of saying "he's confident" they'll say "he's an ego-monster" The bottom line...every one of your qualities will be spun as a NEGATIVE, not a positive. Of course, they don't do this when you are dating. All women put up a good face early on. Later, after a few years of marriage, suddenly the real woman will emerge, and you will subjected to negative diatribes about you, day in, day out, like a constant weight on your shoulders. So when you marry a feminist, you will slowly change to become the bad man that she sees. All the negative aspects of you (which you've probably learned to suppress and minimize) will suddenly start to crop up again. Eventually you'll say "well, fuck it, if she's going to attack me for a bad habit anyway, I might as well indulge in it." She will bring out the worst in you. And of course, she'll be happy, because then she can scamper off to her feminist-asshole friends and say "SEE! We're right! Men really ARE as bad as we've said!" Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/bringworst.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/bringworst.html Typical evening of a married man with kids. The thing about 90% of most women that become mothers is that their twat stretches out and they get a big gut. They started eating for two, and they find they like it. So it's twinkies and m&ms all day. Then they run up the mastercard buying the Tova Borgnine wrinkle cream and the Bob Bowersox spatchela collection from QVC which they watch all day. So you come home from your day at work, and you see this fat fuck in polyester stretch pants. "I took Dakota to the doctor and he has ADD. And Ashleigh has the flu and I think I have a scratchy throat too. And the voyager makes a ping ping sound so you have to take it down to the garage. And I think I damaged the springs under the front seat when I loaded my 400 lb ass onto it while strapping and unstrapping and adjusting and unadjusting the rear facing child safety seats while it took me 45 minutes to load and unload the screaming little treasures in and out of the car." You see, once the woman has her two little trophies, she doesn't need you any more, except as a meal ticket. We had one kid. Wife stays home, but the kid wears her out. I bust my fucking ASS 60 hrs/week and get no credit. Wife gives me guilt when I don't throw everything down right after work to watch this screaming, annoying fucking kid so she can go out to the gym, or to some restaurant with her friends, or to her sister's house to watch movies. She gets to take naps during the day when the baby sleeps, and every time I call her on the cell during the day, she is at Starbucks with her Mom or friends. She says that doesn't count as "Her time" because she's with the baby. I've had enough. I feel so undervalued and OWNED. She is so 'entitled' now it's like 60 (or 70, or 80) hours a week from me is EXPECTED. Being at work from 8-7 counts as my 'social' time, so I am not allowed to have any friends or ever do ANYTHING outside of change FUCKING DIAPERS. I give birth to your kids and you complain we don't have sex? How do you think they were born, osmosis? Who takes care of them, drives them to school, picks them up for after school activities, drives them to sports, takes them to their friends houses, plays chauffeur, cleans, cooks, goes to PTA meetings and then caters to your sorry whiney ass when you get home. To top it off after you eat, fart or burp you walk out the door and go out with your buddies. You want sex? Go fuck yourself! I'm too tired. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/evening.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/evening.html What your future wife will be thinking a few years after you have children. This is the discussion copied from Internet discussion forum: Woman 1 My second husband and I were pregnant and happy. He has 3 children from a prior marriage, and all seemed peaceful. His ex wife, upon learning he was having a child with me engaged an attorney and upped the child support to the point where half of his income after taxes is being paid to her. Now, instead of being able to stay home with my new daughter, I will have to go to work to support her. And if it ever goes bad in my marriage, I will receive very little support. Think hard before marrying a man with children and a living ex wife. Woman 2 I believe you will be entitled to your full share if you divorce. He will not have much of a life left though. Woman 3 Full share? Not in Texas, it's a non alimony state. Woman 1 You raise a good point; by being forced to work, I will have income which will count against me for alimony. I am in CA, thankfully. Woman 2 If you are feeling distant from him (emotional neglect) or he is lashing out at you (emotional rape) - do not start going to work. You need to act now to protect whatever benefits you are entitled to later. Woman 1 He has been very distant and stressed, and I do feel that we are drifting apart. Plus, I do not feel I should have to work due to his past mistakes. Woman 2 I recommend if possible you make it to the 7-10 year mark before divorcing him - that will yield maximum benefits. And don't forget, when you do drop the bomb - get a lawyer first and he has to cover the costs. Woman 1 I did not know this. Thanks for the advice! Well, I have the child, and I do feel quite neglected. I think maybe now is the time to cash out. Question: he has an inheritance - can I still get a piece of it after the marriage ends? Woman 2 Yes! You get a piece out of every dollar that he gets for the next eighteen years - and by then laws will have been changed to possibly raise it to beyond 18. Woman 3 Don't go to work. The Ex will take you back for an increase based on more household income from your job. Find a job under the table... The court's standard bullshit line on this is "don't have more kids if you can't support the ones you already have..." Woman 1 This is what I am thinking. Maybe just cash out now, sell the house at some point, and let him pay until the inheritance hits. In the meantime, I can remarry, after a little "playtime". I do feel like he promised me happiness and now it is all just sadness and I have to work. Clint Eastwood (73) and his lovely wife Dina Ruiz (37), whom he married and had a child with when he was 66. Clint Eastwood is my new hero and an inspiration to all American men. Stay in shape, make and save money, sportfuck American women till you are 66. Then marry a hot 30 year old Latina and have a child with her. Well, 66 might be a tad extreme, but there is absolutely no reason for men to even start thinking about getting married and having children until they are in their 40s. I am guessing Dina does not bitch at Clint and loves giving him blowjobs. And no, you don't have to be Clink Eastwood to find a beautiful and loyal wife 20+ years younger. Interestingly, 66 year old nagging bitches are urged to become lesbians. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/Dina_Ruiz.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/Dina_Ruiz.html Majority of American women have Histrionic and Narcissistic disorders. We are talking really serious stuff here. Most American women have at least two serious personality disorder. And having personality disorder(s) and being a good wife are mutually exclusive things. That means American women are completely unfit to be wives and mothers. Histrionic disorder: manipulative, attention seekers, dominate the conversation, use grandiose language, seek constant praise, dress provocatively, exaggerate illnesses in order to gain attention, exaggerate friendships and relationships, believe that everyone loves them. Narcissistic disorder: self-centered, seek attention and praise, take advantage of people, fantasize about success and power, expect favorable treatment, exaggerate achievements, have difficulty maintaining long-lasting relationships, expect others to recognize them as being superior. Many American women also have Dependent, Obsessive-Compulsive, and Borderline disorders. Think about the women you dated and see how many of them had the combination of: mental/biological/genetic problems (defects), tried to kill herself, depressed, mood-swings, arthritic, psychotic breakdowns, unhappy, nutcase, every condition known to man, deranged attention whore. Learn more about personality disorders here. More on Narcissistic disorder, lots of problems with western women are related to it: The only reality which exists for the narcissist is their own, and even when they are repeatedly shown to be wrong or misinformed about something, they will maintain their original stance, despite all contradictory evidence, no matter how compelling. They have no interest in understanding reality, or others. Instead, they project themselves onto the other: - in lieu of internalising the other, they externalise and generalise themselves. It has often been noted here that it is difficult to tell whether the narcissist is stupider or madder, as there are such strong elements of both in their disposition. And the madness is real. The narcissist will twist and distort reality to infinity in order to place themselves at the earth's center. No amount of objectivity shall be allowed to intefere with this. This is their prime objective, and they will talk any amount of nonsense to achieve it. They don't care. There is only them, and their prison is a familiar, comfortable zone. It has walls padded with velvety selfdeception. So the narcissist is not just weak, stupid, vain and unrealistic. Because if their condition was just a composite of common character flaws, they could change, grow out of it, be reasoned with. Nor is it just an act of will, for when they are shown that their interests are not best served by unflinching selfishness, there is no change. Narcissism is a mental illness - a psychological disease which shares many characteristics with schizophrenia. It is a 'self' trapped in and constructed solely by infinite self-reflections reiterating to infinity. It cannot change. It cannot be treated. When the window of internalised other closed in childhood, it jammed shut - never to let light in again. * More on statistics: Medical community generally says that only 2-3% of American women have Histrionic or Narcissistic disorders. That is obviously an outright lie that flies in the face of common sense. Read about various disorders on the above link (it's a fun project, you might even find that you have a disorder of your own), then think about all the women you dated or women you know well (particularly women between 25 and 30 years old). You will see that almost all of them have at least one disorder, and majority will have two or more disorders. Medical community generally says that 80% of women have a short-term form of Postpartum depression (also called baby blues). But the baby does not go away after a few weeks. Responsibilities and stress do not go away after a few weeks. If baby, stress, and responsibilities make 80% of women depressed for several weeks after giving birth, then they will be even more stressed and depressed after 6 months of constant dealing with the baby. What we have here is medical community that is afraid to say that a big percentage of American women have very serious mental problems. Courtesy: http://www.nomarriage.com/disorders.html http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nomarriage.com/disorders.html 20% of men who think they are fathers are not. Random DNA checks prove that 20% of men who think they are father are not. This statistic is truly shocking. There's a whole evolutionary game theory worked out to explain this. Simply put, a woman wants to bind a man into a monogamous relationship so he provides food and resources for her and her children, while she maximizes the genetic diversity of her children by having them with several different men. DNA test at childbirth should be required to determine the actual paternity. Discussion from pregnancy message board: It took me 2 years to get pg, we finally said screw it, stopped trying, and went to Mexico. Whammo, a vacation and margi's did the trick. Your son looks kind-of Mexican, right? shhhh- don't tell my husband From the Guardian, 1998-07-14: "More than 25 years ago the consultant obstetrician E E Phillipp reported to a symposium on embryo transfer that blood tests on between 200 and 300 women in a town in the south-east of England revealed that 30 per cent of their children could not have been fathered by the men whose blood groups had also been sampled". From the Dallas Morning News 1999-10-31: "DNA Diagnostics Center … an industry leader, says 30 percent of the men it tests prove to be misidentified. Similar numbers come from the Texas attorney general's office, which enforces child support: About a quarter of the men who disputed paternity in the last year turned out to be right. In Florida, the proportion was one-third". From the Sunday Times 2000-01-23: "David Hartshorne, spokesman for Cellmark, said that in about one case in seven, the presumed father turns out to be the wrong man". From the Santa Barbara News-Press 2000-02-27: "For the population as a whole, "The generic number used by us is 10 percent," said Dr. Bradley Popovich, vice president of the American College of Medical Genetics. [15 to 25 % has been determined from blood tests of parents and offspring in Canada and the US.]" From The Age 2000-03-26: "About 3000 paternity tests are carried out a year in Australia. In about 20 per cent of cases the purported father is found to be unrelated to the child. This figure is estimated to be 10 per cent in the general community". From The REPORT Newsmagazine 2000-04-24: "The rate of wrongful paternity in "stable monogamous marriages," according to the Max Planck Institute in Munich, Germany, ranges from one in 10 with the first child to one in four with the fourth". From the Independent 2000-05-12: "... biologists Robin Baker and Mark Bellis ... review of paternity studies also suggested frequent infidelity, with extra-pair paternity running between 1.4 per cent and 30 per cent in different communities". From The Globe and Mail 2000-05-20: "Anecdotal evidence suggests these numbers bear out in Canada as well…. Maxxam Analytics in Guelph, Ont., performs approximately two paternity tests a day. And according to Dr. Wayne Murray, head of the human DNA department, one out of four men who come in pointing a finger at their spouse is not the biological father of the child in question". From the Sunday Times 2000-06-11: "More than 250,000 tests a year are now conducted in America, and about 15,000 in Britain.... roughly 30% of men taking the tests discover that they are not the fathers of the children they regarded as their own. In the wider community, social scientists say up to 1 in 20 children are not the offspring of the man who believes himself to be their father". From the Observer 2000-09-03: "One study followed couples waiting for NHS fertility treatment, where the men were 'azoospermic', meaning they produced no sperm and were totally infertile. The researchers found that 25 per cent of the women became pregnant before fertility treatment started". From the American Association of Blood Banks - 2001-02-26: "The overall exclusion rate for 1999 was 28.2% for accredited labs. Exclusion rates for non-accredited US and foreign labs were slightly less at 22.7% and 20.6% respectively". 20% of men who think they are fathers are not. Random DNA checks prove that 20% of men who think they are father are not. This statistic is truly shocking. There's a whole evolutionary game theory worked out to explain this. Simply put, a woman wants to bind a man into a monogamous relationship so he provides food and resources for her and her children, while she maximizes the genetic diversity of her children by having them with several different men. DNA test at childbirth should be required to determine the actual paternity. Discussion from pregnancy message board: It took me 2 years to get pg, we finally said screw it, stopped trying, and w

  189. Caitlin

    This thread is bizarre. It seems like everyone is seriously hating on empowered women. It really reinforces the stereotype that men who travel to Asia are looking for women who will cater to their needs (in a mix of 1950s housewife and Victoria Secret sex doll style.) There is a huge divide on what type of relationship people on this thread want to be in. Here is the answer: don't desire someone who is going to expect you to be someone your not. I feel bad for the Western women in Asia trying to date, but it seems like most of them would be unhappy with the unequal power dynamic Asian men, and most expat men, expect. Men who hate on empowered Western women -- just stick to the Asian women who are taught to put the men in their lives before themselves. (You can probably guess that I am an American empowered woman, but here it is full disclosure :) Also, the men in the thread who are talking about how unattractive American women are are very off-putting and don't seems like the type of guys I would want to chat with let alone date) My experience dating abroad has been extremely positive, though I have only travel in South America and Africa. So I would say go to those places if you are an American woman looking for lots of male attention! (In Africa, I was even told a few times that I was too skinny to be truly sexy.) My guess is that when I travel to Seoul this year, I won't get as much attention because I am 5'6" and curvy (150lbs.) But that is okay, because my boyfriend is coming with me and I don't want any temptation. :)

  190. InnocentBystander

    If that's what you took from it then you've missed the point. Being "empowered" doesn't have to mean being a crappy human being, or feeling empowered to treat the other half of the human race like trash, in order to show your feminist bonafides.

  191. Jeff

    The men commenting here are an embarrassment, this doesn't represent American men. These guys are old and bitter.

  192. Jeff

    They make the rest of us look shallow and whiny.

  193. Jeff

    American women are great.

  194. Han

    OMG the amount of talk here about what women are doing wrong is too much for me and I had to stop reading the comments! The guys here (my guess are single) and their comments about feminism ruining women in America's attractiveness just highlights exactly why there is a need for feminism in the first place. The only thing that feminism has and wants to achieve is equality... and the comments from some of the men on here just reek of unearned male privilege. So the problem with American women is that feminism has given them high standards that make them want to be treated as equals and the men don't want to treat a woman that way? Better for the American women to be single than to settle for men who can't hack that simple dynamic. And yes, perhaps the women who have been considered 'good for sex and bad wives' or whatever do insist on being put on a pedistal to begin with... perhaps that is the effect of treating them like casual sex partners in the first place- maybe in a culture where the sex is readily available and 'casual', these women need a clear message that the men are serious and not only after one thing. And who is to blame for that? Maybe if the men did not chase the same women for casual sex, they would have an easier time in dating them. Ever considered THAT *to the men who are encouraging American women to self-criticise (hello invitation to lowering self-esteem or what?) and dress to attract men. What are YOU doing to attract women exactly? If it was up to me, all men would learn how to romance a woman, be caring and fantastic lovers, have six pack stomachs, be faithful, grow their hair to jaw length (similar to Johnny Depp etc), learn to be good listeners, stand up for their woman in public, be fun and be an equal bread winner/child rearer. When you have all that going on, THEN and only then can you make 'helpful' comments about women's weight, clothing choices and radical beliefs that they (unattractively) consider themselves equal to men. And in case you were wondering, I have been compared to a supermodel, and not American and am single and looking for Mr Decent and sexy. I just can't stand it when men pick on women about their attractiveness and pickiness while simultaneously coming off like they have a consumerist attitude towards women. We are not things you know.

  195. Han

    By the way, the marriages around me that I have seen that actually work, are mutually fulfilling, lasting and happy are the ones where the woman is sort of on a pedistal admired and adored by her husband. The way I look at it is this- when a husband gives so much to his wife, she has so much that she has plenty to give... so naturally she gives her body to the baby she bears and the husband feeds the wife emotionally and the the wife feeds the children emotionally and the children feed the husband emotionally. Of course the wife feeds the husband emotionally too or it won't work, but the point is that when a man gives the woman more than she needs for herself, she makes a better mother, because she has plenty of everything to be selfless towards her child, because while she is busy with children, forgetting her own needs, she has a husband who is looking out for what she needs and putting her first. I think that is beautiful. The problems I see is when the woman gives too much to a man who doesn't reciprocate and then has children and the whole thing breaks down because it's unsustainable and only the man gets his needs met (to begin with) but then the woman has nothing for herself if the man isn't devoted to helping and nourishing her and eventually she has nothing to give her children, then they have problems and that impacts on the husband in the long run and no one is happy.

  196. jawnee

    As an american male who has some assets,and seen everyone of his friends bankrupted and divorced or both by american woman,the kids kept from them,and in some cases woman using no fault maternal presumption and false abuse claims to sway custody battles,there is no way in a cold day in hell I will ever marry an american woman. I simply stopped dating years ago,and will not date an americanized,westernized female,ever.I just cant take thier attitudes and sense of entitlement a lot of woman have.Woman have always had walls I guess,but woman have created such a ridiculously high wall based on their overpriced value,that most men today look at that wall woman have,and their entitlment attitude,they look at that wall,and laugh and turn around and walk away.Its just not worth the little to no return a woman offers in a relationship today because most woman have such a high value on themselves,no man or god could ever meet. Overvalueing yourself,means you dont have a celing on your value in a relationship,and that ceiling is the eventual destination of happiness,and with woman having such high values where their value doesnt have a ceiling means that a lot of woman simply do not have the capacity to be happy,because they dont even have a ceiling. Woman also have lot of choice in relationships and receive hundreds of emails or more on dating sites.A lot of woman are simply victims to instinct,if a woman has 25 numbers in her phone of males that are interested,a woman may exploit everyone of those males for a dinner and rinks,its just the way it is. Some men will tell you to have game,some confidence,blah blah blah I could be married right now,or have a girlfriend but am convinced the only way to keep a westernized female happy would take such effort,such amounts of money and blood sweat and tears,it just isnt worth it.Its like men have to turn over their testicles and become full time court jestors and do stupid human tricks just to keep a woman happy.I have found it nearly impossible,and just not worth it. Womans ridiculous value they have placed on themselves stems from feminism,socail marixsm,disney princess movies,hollywood,tv shows etc...I believe literal brainwashing to seperate the family unit and destroy themselves,the children and the family unit to destroy the Usa. For the first time in history in the Usa,over half of american woman are single.Feminism has made it harder on woman,now a lot of woman are single mothers,going to school and working at the same time,paying their own taxes and raising children by themselves when they had it easier as wives and mothers,but feminism has taught woman how thats a terrible fate,they got suckered into the reason feminism was most likely started,to get the other half of america that didnt pay taxes,to simply pay taxes,it was a sham,feminism convinced woman they were victims more than they were,and are now working harder in society than ever before. What are the answers???

  197. Jessica Alba

    I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. Americans who are raised by European parents get some thing extra from our European parents 100 percent because of our upbringing that Americans who are raised by American parents do not get. That is that when we walk the streets in Europe every body thinks we are born in Europe we can behave like a typical European speak our parents native language (some only speak English) just as easily as our European parents can (still have European mentality) and it is impossible to tell that we are born in the United States and that we are Americans. It would appear that we are born in Europe not the United States even if we are born in the United States. Eastern European women who hate American women think they are born in Greece not the United States, and this is the only reason why they like me. I was born in the United States, my mother was born in the United States, but my grand parents are born in Greece.

  198. Bill

    Alba, you are an American and so is your mother. How you can think you have European parents is beyond me as is the entire point of your post.

  199. Jeff

    The men commenting here are cowards and an embarrassment. Get over yourselves you bitter losers! Stop making me look bad!

  200. Bill

    Calling yourself "Jeff" isn't fooling anyone Ma'am.

  201. Mrs. Moore

    I've had to stop reading the comments, too much for me. As a very American woman, born and raised in the US and taught by fully American parents, grand parents and great grand parents, I am horrified at the extreme hatred for Americans, especially women. I can certainly see how Americans have created a bad wrap for themselves. Honestly folks, "Reality TV" does nothing to show the other side of America. Our nation is full of exploded egos, expanded waist bands and disrespectful entitled children. Our television shows and movies portray us as man eating, money hungry, attention crazed morons. Well, lets be honest, not all Americans are like that.. We could make general stereotypes about any country as a whole and assume it is correct because of a handful of people. We could stereotype countries, religions, races etc. Luckily here, we get to deal with the topic of women. What i am reading the most here is that American women are not subservient, they are not home makers, they are too difficult to please, they take take take. etc. etc. We need to look at culture of each country to adequately compare. In the United States, the concept of the man being the bread winner is simply not allowing for the majority of families to survive. Women are in the work force. Women are expected to bring in the bread, feed, clean, take care of the children, and fulfill their husbands needs. Personally, as a wife, mother, employee, dog walker, cleaning lady, chef, nanny, accountant, fitness trainer, auto mechanic, taxi, walking play land, peace maker and lover, I have spent more than half my life tending to, caring for and cherishing my husband and our children. This stereotype is rather frustrating to me, as a hard working woman whom does not ask for much other than love and respect. For years, my husband was unemployed and I still fulfilled my duties including loving him, $$$ or not. I put his well being and our children's well being emotionally, physically and spiritually before my own. Now, that is what I consider a woman. It is unfortunate that some women in the United States are obsessed with money and themselves. But that simply does not reflect all American women. There are a good amount of women who are not this egocentric gold digging monster. There are American women whom are sweet and kind, loving and faithful, compassionate and understanding... and most importantly unconcerned with the pocket book and more concerned with giving and receiving respect. Personally, I'm not affected by this blog or any of the other millions of blogs out there about hating women or "American Women". I was lucky to find a man who recognizes my value and understands my unconditional love that I share with him and our children. I believe most of the men posting negatively about women have been scorned by a few of the American Beauties. Sometimes the fisherman wants to be the catch... so he must go elsewhere to change his status. Simple enough. Every single person in this world is different in one way or another. It would be ignorant for someone to say they don' t like an apple because they found a worm in one, or trying one wine of a particular year and not enjoying it, so you'll never try any other year or type of that brand. You're being selective and judgmental. Not all women, not all men are stereotypical, and those feeling superior enough to make that judgment is just full of hot air.

  202. Jeff

    "Calling yourself “Jeff” isn’t fooling anyone Ma’am." Lol.

  203. Maxine

    Jessica de Alba, WHAT AN ENORMOUS BIBLE YOU JUST WROTE, I literally had to just scroll down for about a minute in order to be able to read other people's comments.... ======= moving on.... I am a foreigner, I am Colombian and when I went to California for six months to study I was in shock by the huge amount of VERY GOOD LOOKING, NICE, FAMILY ORIENTED, OPEN MINDED AMERICAN MEN, with some of the fattest, meanest, trashiest, sluttiest women I've ever seen.... it's OBVIOUS that gender roles are messed up in the USA. This video from cheaters is a CLEAR example of what I am talking about, two relatively handsome American men, being fooled by a fat skanky much ulgier than the men american woman with a nasty manly attitude!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=oigG0ZWhKSM I have spoken with several American men about this, and they tell me American women suck, and american minority women are also americanized and equally as bad.... therefore many of the men are stuck!!! they have to date the best they can find outta the bottom of the barrel. (according to my american male friend) I dated an American man, he was shocked because on our first date I told him to save his money, and he can come over to my house and I can teach him how to cook a nice meal and after we can eat it in the form of a nice candle light dinner.... he thought it was the nicest most lovely thing a woman has ever done for him!! He told me American women would expect him to take them out, pay for everything, then hear them bitch and bitch and bitch and he would be forced to hear ridiculous stories involving alcohol and fights and high school style pettyness female crap.... and OH MY GOD THIS, OH MY GOD THAT'S CUTE THAT presented in the form of an extremly fake sounding voice!!! he told me if he could, he'd leave the US!!! Unfortunately everything came to an end when I had to leave the US..... Living in America raised my self steem.... I never had so many handsome, manly sweet men approach me and be nice to me..... and I've never witnessed so many nasty skanky slutty fat obscene women in my life as well. When I tell my colombian girlfriends all this, they are surprised and claim that american men should visit colombia more often to find a nice loving feminine girl who wants to commit!!! I AGREE

  204. cotownsend78

    If you live in America as a male, then you already know that America teaches women every day that good men are not men and this attitude is based on pure “BS.” American women have been brainwashed to believe garbage men are the real men in life. You know, the Thugz, Pimp, Player, etc.. American women have been brainwashed to hate a man based on his height and that is what I want to concentrate on with this blog. Really? Height? No, height does not make you smarter. No, height does not make you better, and No height won’t save your butt if a bullet is coming your way. One of the biggest accuses women use…”I feel more protected with a taller man.” Bull “chit”, what world are you living in? If you’re a woman and you were walking with a man seven foot tall and I wanted to rob you, I would simply shoot the seven foot man first. Now how much security do you have? Not to mention, power, speed, endurance and desired will contribute more towards a man winning a fight than height. I’ve seen too many men get their “azzes” “whipped” because they thought their height alone would somehow give them super strength over a shorter man. People….we’re talking about the size of a skeleton….? WTF the size of a man’s skeleton have to do with raw muscle strength and power? Nothing and it never will!! American will say it… Taller men are better, but it is not fact. America will say it’s fact, but don’t believer everything you hear, prove it. In what way are taller men better? All men have a head, two arms, two legs, two hands, two feet, one “pecker, two eyes, a nose, a mouth, a brain, etc… So what does the taller man have different because his skeleton is bigger? Can he walk through bullets? Can he fly up in the sky like a bird? Can he jump in front of a moving train and not get ran over? I would love to see that latter one. Because height can not be changed, it is the one thing which allows another man to say, “Ha! I got you! I’m better than you!” This is funny because a man who makes a seven digit income is obviously the better, more successful man in life, regardless of the fact he’s standing five foot three, bare footed. Because women hear such “jibberish” all the time and are made shame if they have a shorter man, they have condemned so many good men in America or ‘westernized’ males as some call it. Ask your self this… Why is it the man MUST be taller than the woman? By who’s standard is this? The answer… A man’s standard, not God’s and a man makes a mess every time he tries to play God. Condemning one group of men (good men) will eventually take a turn for the worst in the far future for American humanity. It is absolutely amazing how the news, movies, reality shows, etc have brainwashed all gullible Americans into believing they are some how superior being tall. Shall I tell you what the tall issues is really about people? A Human is a creature that loves to dominate other creatures. A Human is selfish, greedy and full of self pride. A Human want’s nothing more than to say, “I’m better than you.” There it is… That’s what it’s about people. A group of human beings (tall people) wanting to look down on the shorter people and say, “I’m better than you (because I know you can’t do anything about your height, hee hee!). Fact, not every successful person in the world is tall (look at Prince the singer). Your IQ is not going to be hindered based on your height. How in the hell does an IQ get hindered based on a skeleton? Your brain is your brain, your skeleton is your skeleton. Get a clue! I went to school with too many really tall guys who were dumb as hell. It’s amazing how much bull “chit” like this is fed to the American public every day of every year, and you wonder why there are so many good men being over looked. You wonder why every time you turn on the TV and watch news, some new crazy, bazaar act has taken placed or someone has been killed, raped or kidnapped. You wonder why there are so many single parent mothers out there with twenty kids from fifteen different “daddies.” You wonder why marriage is taken for a joke know. Women wonder why men act like dogs or cheat on them so much. “Jibberish” and ignorance… plain and simple. For women, this garbage knowledge starts early in life. The moment a mother tells her daughter she’s going to mary a TALL dark and handsome guy, the “jibberish” starts. Lets break this all down and see where America’s relationships between women and men have headed. Women… American Women are a joke now and I’ll tell you why. They chase after a man now based on height, because this American world says, “Tall” dark and handsome. Yes, America has brainwashed and baited women into this because that’s all they hear now when it comes to men. Even my sister dated a shorter man, but once she got older and kept hearing other people talk down on shorter men, she change and stared dating taller men so she could feel like one of the women who “fits in.” What American women don’t see, because most of them are too dumb to see, is this…. You just took a small number of men in American and you have told them they are “Pedestal Men.” You pretty much told them they are men only and all other men aren’t. Moving into the “Pedestal Man’s” shoes… That worshipped man now realizes, hey…”We’re going to get all the puzzy, guys.” “We are going to drop all the babies, guys.” Let me ask you American women something… Do you really think a man that knows all of you are going to screw him, will every want to settle down with any of you? If you’re thinking yes, then you’re the dumbest female in America. Fact, there are more women in America then men. So that automatically puts multiple women with one “Pedestal Man.” Once those “Pedestal Men” get a taste of all that “tang” they’re going crazy! They are going to drop illegitimate children like flies! In fact, they are so “puzzy” “whipped”, they even grab the women that are below average in looks. Why, because they can and it means even more “puzzy.” I’ve even seen a case where two women were both going into labor and the father of the two babies being born were the same guy… a “Pedestal Man.” Must have been nice “f’cking” one woman and then going right to the next woman and “bang” her, all in a days work. So all the American men that want American women for TRUE love… The men that want to take care of you, marry you, take care of their kids…. These men can only sit an watch the corruption take place. For what can they do? All of America is against them. Yes…the news, movies, reality shows, internet, etc; you see it everywhere and you hear it everywhere, if you’re a short man. Hell, you might not even get a job because there’s a TALLER man or brainwashed woman sitting behind the desk interviewing you, which means your chances for making a low level living in America is very slim. Wake up call!! Has anyone noticed yet…? Relationships between a man and women were better when women were averaging five feet tall and men were bouncing around five foot five or less? Once men started growing taller, the ignorance came. Why? I stated it already… Human beings finding a way to say, “I’m better than you.” The truth is, we are all flesh and bone. We all have the same weakness and needs, therefore “better then you” does not exists. Going back to the “Pedestal Men” having fun with all the women they have to play with, creating more and more single parent mothers; because yes women…when they are done with you….when they have used you up…they are moving on to the next young fine woman. As if things aren’t bad enough for the shorter men who have nothing but love to give…it gets worst for them. Well how can it get worst for those guys? Women have come up with this little outlet for being “dogged out.” You see, what happens is this…. Women will hit their teens and start having sex with “Pedestal Men” while overlooking any other guy. By the time they hit eighteen, those women are well “deflowered” by “Pedestal Men.” They are lucky if they don’t sprout a child early from one. These women will now go out in the world, the dating game, looking for love…true love. They want that man that’s going to want nothing from them but their love. They want that man who will commit to them in marriage and be by their side until death do them part. They want that successful man who is strong financially, so he can bring something to the table when it comes to family support/building. They want that man who is going to be that father and not walk out on the kids or her. They want that man who will love them even when they cut their first wrinkle. They want that strong man who will fight for them when needed. Ok, these women have that picture of that man so they are out there overlooking a lot of guys to find those “Pedestal Men.” What these women find out quick is, a lot of those “Pedestal Men” are players. Can you really blame them women? They are “f’cking” all of you and there’s more of you then them. What happens next is sad…. The once young women is now late twenties or cracking in her thirties and now find it hard to compete with the younger ladies for the “Pedestal Men.” But hey, you’re still good looking in your thirties because you take care of yourself, so some “Pedestal Men” are still using you to “bust a nutt” with. OMG! You are now approaching forty and no “Pedestal Man” want to marry you!! Why!? What did you do wrong? It’s simple ladies… You Played OUT!! There are too many young girls popping up every year ready for “Pedestal Men” to pop their cherry. These men do not have to settle for any woman, especially one they have already “f‘cked” a countless number of times. So what does these Played Out women do next? They finally turn around and start paying attention to all those men they overlooked while chasing “Pedestal Men.” Why? Because they need a REAL man to take care of them now; along with their twenty kids from fifteen different “Pedestal Men.” That’s the saddest part about it all…. Men that would have loved these women to death and in marriage...were never even given chance. Guess what worn out ladies? Those good men are NOT interested in YOU! Why should they be? You gave all your best years to the “Pedestal Man”; a man who is believed to be better for no reason what so ever other than the fact America says so. I bet my life, if you were to find the root of all that ignorance…you will find “Pedestal Men.” One thing for sure.. They will make sure American woman stay ignorant and their “dip sticks” stay wet. I’ve known males who wanted nothing in life but marriage, children and one woman to love, right from the start. Sad to say, those males will never ever be able to live their dream because they are short. I would imagine it’s torture for men like that to watch all women give themselves to men who are treated as superior because of something as lame as skeletal size. Fact! Something not worked hard for is taken for granted. “Pedestal Men” do not work hard for women because they are the only small number of men women spread their legs for. How can a man like that ever truly appreciate a woman? They don’t! They can use up and replace at any time! And if you’re a women who thinks she can change a “Pedestal Man”, then get ready to join the rest of the worn out old hags; because a lot of those women thought the same thing, but by the time they realize the answer to that question… You know, that question… Where did all the good men go? It was too late! What I would recommend for white males who are shorter and being overlooked, start looking outside the US for women. A lot of women in third world countries are still “traditionalized” and are in fact, real women who picks a man based on real qualities and not the size of his feet. If you’re a black American male… You are screwed! I say this because you will find it hard to be excepted in a lot of third world countries because you’re black. I would suggest heading South of the US (South America). There are a lot of dark skinned women there anyway. Of course “Pedestal Men” are going to argue against this blog like hell because they want to protect their “puzzy.” Stupid women will argue against this blog because they are one of those dumb women still blind to the fact. There will also be “Pedestal Men” posing as women and attacking this blog. “Pedestal Men” want to make sure American women keep draining their balls only. At least until the women cut their first wrinkle. I can’t believe American women who get dogged out by the wrong men actually get mad at the good men because they don’t want them with their worn out “puzzy” and twenty kids. God ladies…give the men you overlook a break. It’s not their fault. Someone told me when I was young… For every decision you make in life there will be consequences. A woman ending up old, worn out and without love is just receiving the consequences for judging a man based on this height. I can’t but feel this renissance of ignorance is causing a lot of straight men to same sex as well. If you haven’t noticed that the gay male population is rising in America…you need to tune in more often. This sick renaissance of ignorance will never change and good men will eventually die out in America, while the “Pedestal Men” will continue to “dog out.”

  205. Nate

    If you put a woman on a pedestal and try to protect her from the rat-race, you're a male chauvinist. If you don't you're sexist. If you stay home and do the housework, you're a pansy. If she stays home and do the housework, you're oppressive. If you work too hard there is never any time for her. If you don't work enough, you're a good-for-nothing bum. If she has a boring repetitive job with low pay, its called "exploitation". If YOU have a boring repetitive job with low pay..... you should get off your *** and find something better. If you get a promotion ahead of her, that is favoritism. If she gets a job ahead of you, it's equal opportunity. If you mention how nice she looks, it's sexual harassment. If you keep quiet, it's male indifference. If you cry, you're a wimp. If you don't, you're an insensitive bastard. If you make a decision without consulting her, you're a chauvinist. If she makes a decision without consulting you, she's a liberated woman. If you ask her to do something she doesn't enjoy, that's domination. If she asks you, it's a favor. If you appreciate the female form and frilly underwear, you're pervert. If you don't, you're gay. If you like a woman to shave her legs and keep in shape, you're sexist. If you don't, you're unromantic. If you try to keep yourself in shape, you're vain. If you don't, you're a slob. If you buy her flowers, you're after something. If you don't, you're not thoughtful. If you're proud of your achievements, you're full of yourself. If you're not, you're not ambitious. If she has a headache, she's tired. If you have a headache, you don't love her anymore. If you want it Too often, you're oversexed. If you don't, there must be someone else This is want American Men have to deal with

  206. Jeff

    Don't listen to the men here, they don't speak for me or tens of millions of other American men. American women are great, beautiful.

  207. Jessica Alba

    American (United States) Radio talks show host Tom Leykis has given up along time ago dating American women who are born in the USA and act like Americans. The women he as stuck that are born in another country (outside the USA) and came to the United States at any age. He also stuck to American women (born in the United States) who have parents/grand parents who came from another country. They are old-fashioned subscribe to culture and costumes of the country where there parents/grand parents are from. American women do not like the competition they get from other countries with increased immigration to the United States. Many foreign women have a very negative opinion of American women. Tom Leykis- American women vs Foreign Women 1 Tom Leykis- American women vs Foreign Women 2 Tom Leykis- American women vs Foreign Women 3 Tom Leykis- Sick of American Women 1 Tom Leykis- Sick of American Women 2 Tom Leykis- Sick of American Women 3 Tom Leykis- Sick of American Women 4 Tom Leykis- Foreign Women Critique American Women 1 Tom Leykis- Foreign Women Critique American Women 3 The reason for this is because US born girls who are raised by an immigrant foreign-born mother/grand mothers, are raised and behave the same way as their mother/immigrant mother. Eastern European women who hate American women would think they are born in their mother’s/grand mothers native country example, Belgium, Brazil, Columbia, Germany, Greece, Japan, India, Iraq, Mexico, Philippines and Sweden and it should be impossible to tell that they are born in the United States, other than the fact they speak English with an American accent. This is because their immigrant foreign-born mother raised her daughter/grand daughter the same way she was raised by her parents when she was infant/toddler/child and do not tolerate that they have American mentality and behave like Americans and expect her daughters and grand daughters. This is because many have to travel their mother’s native country. Some only speak English and many also speak there mothers native language. Most women/man in Latin America are raised the same way as people in Italy and Spain, and have the same lifestyle, culture as in Italy and Spain, but eat different food and speak a different language. They should have the skills to live and work in Spain and Italy. Latin America is different than the United States.

  208. Jeff

    American women are beautiful.

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  210. Jackie

    hey "Jessica Alba" why don't you write another 4 page post...saying exactly the same thing as your other 10 posts! Let's start a blog about American Men now.

  211. Diana

    I suspect a lot of women will hate me for this, but here goes. This article and the comments were an interesting read because I'm a Canadian woman who lived in Osaka , Japan for about three years. I did find the average Japanese woman infinitely more thoughtful than the average Canadian woman back home. Sure, there's no superficial (Hi! How are you? *smile**smile*) you get in NA, but the vast majority of women I met remembered my birthday, wrote thank you notes, offered to show me around, and did other things that I think most people under the age of 60 have forgotten in NA. A couple just wanted free English lessons or look cool by association by standing with a white person, but these were the minority, and generally Japanese men. But by and large, Japanese women know how to make others feel appreciated, something I think is severely lacking in NA culture and which we could stand to learn from. To be in a working relationship, you need to feel appreciated, period. NA women could also learn from Japanese women who put effort into their appearance. In my first few days in Osaka, I would look around whatever subway car and think "Damn, I need to buy some clothes". I don't advocate and wouldn't want to spend 3 hours in front of a mirror like some women do there, but it actually felt nice to buy feminine skirts, wear jewellery, get a fashionable hair cut, and live in something other than jeans every day. I left the apartment feeling good. When I came back to Canada, I was shocked by how sloppy everyone looked. Ill-fitting clothes, ripped shoes, unbrushed hair....I'm by no means a fashion guru, but I've come a long way. I like looking at people who care about their appearance. Chances are, so do you. It's OK to look attractive, and to put effort into looking your best. That said, I think men shouldn't kid themselves that Japanese women (I can't speak for the rest of the world) are *superior* to NA women. Every single Japanese woman I met (even my lovely, wonderful, sweet, hilarious Japanese friend that I love to bits) judged men in what I considered to be very black and white terms. He makes x amount of dollars. He is x/100 in looks. He has x nationality. She may genuinely like you, but I definitely got the impression that involvement with a man was based on fairly superficial things and not necessarily love. I had one student who had asked each of the three men she was dating to buy her an identical Gucci bag. She sold 2 for profit and kept one for her dates, all of these poor guys thinking she was carrying his bag on her shoulder. People still love having money, no matter where you are on the planet. I get the impression that a lot of NA guys don't get the pressure on NA women to "have it all". We live in a world where barring one person having a very good job, two people need to have incomes. And with a fairly high chance of divorce, women can't simply hope a good, caring man who will always take care of them will come along. You have to educate yourself. You have to fight for a job and be competitive. Christ, you're not supposed to consider a serious relationship until you get the education, the career, the house, the car...then you're supposed to magically tack someone on when you've achieved everything by yourself for 30 odd years. Of course you're going to suck at relationships, because you have virtually no experience in learning to rely on another person. Duh. I feel like a lot of men who've posted don't get this, and don't realize they suck at it as well. When I dated in Canada I found that about 50 percent of men I ran into were the self centred, career-obsessed, sex meant nothing, money uptight jerks that a lot of men who've posted have accused NA women of being. I baked one guy a cake and he told me he wouldn't eat it because his mother made better ones. When we broke up he didn't give a damn that I was obviously heartbroken and tried to sleep with me instead. I dated another guy who thought I should cover his rent every other month. I dated nice guys as well, but I was shocked by the number of self-entitled jerks I ran into. If there's a "princess" movement happening in NA, it's not just with the women. Thankfully, I met a UK man in Japan who understands these things. He understands appreciation. He couldn't believe it when I sent him a telegram at work and I couldn't believe it when he said "thank you for the meal". I know it's okay for me to be girly and wear skirts, and it's not a bad thing if he finds this attractive. I know I need to stay reasonably healthy and put effort into my appearance if I want him to feel attacted to me, which is OK! I can express the things I want - having children while working only part-time without worry that my NA culture is going to look down on me for wanting something that's "feminine". The admission of wanting that can get you killed in NA society. While I'm still looking for a job in the UK here, I do the majority of the housework, and he brings in the money. It's okay that we have different roles. I'm not sure what the point of this post was. Maybe that everyone in a culture isn't a clone. That NA culture sucks at time. That it's okay to be feminine. Full House hug.

  212. Marc

    This is a great thread. I'm very stocked with the comments of some woman here, making a very mature analysis of what goes on culture wise around the world, like this last post from Diana for example. I'm Brazilian and I live and work in US for 6 years now, but I have traveled to many different countries and experienced relationships with woman from diverse cultures. I believe that every culture is different but the outcome of a man or a woman is the upbringing. Your family values and how your were raised is what will count on how you interact, appreciate and how honest you will be in society. Unfortunately, rich countries like US, where the amount of struggle is smaller compared to south american countries for example, creates a skewed view that US is the best, the most free country in the world, and so on. I had multiple interaction with Americans where they would brag about US and diminish other countries. But again, not everyone! I talked and met Americans that are well traveled and respect other cultures, but so far they are the minority. So I believe the combination of all these factors ends up affecting how most Americans are raised an how they perceive their value in the world setting. When you grow up hearing: "we are the best, we are the most powerful", that ends up ingrained in your brain one way or the other, not only in the woman here, but also in the men. I mentioned all that to get to my next point. When you grow up this way, you feel less necessity to engage in real human relationships, and it becomes more about continuing the fight to be the best. That brings the worse in the human being, since your life will mostly turn around the necessity of getting the best position, having the best car, best house, etc. You become more and more shallow and your life will turn around more materialistic. I believe that this will happen in other places, like Japan for instance, where the culture of working to death is normal. So, in a nutshell, I believe what I described is a common problem all over the world nowadays. The fact is, US would have more of this problem since it has been the most rich country in the world for a long time. That skews values and relationships, which impacts how most american woman behaves (not all of them) and so forth. I'm not going to lie, you will see the same issues in most rich areas in Brazil. The majority of the people will be snob, materialistic, etc., the main difference there is the fact women will be mostly gorgeous, since the Brazilian culture revolves around looks. Again, this comes with family values and upbringing. I believe is much more just to think about our flaws as humans more then try to classify as man, woman, American, Japanese, Brazilian, Chinese, etc. We share the same source of DNA, so the situation and setting we grow up with will mostly affect how we turn out as human beings.

  213. Grim

    Here's the problem with western women today 1) Selfish - to the point where they don't know the difference between love of self and plain downright greed--and drilled into believing that whatever happens is the fault of whatever man is in their life because of the feminist crud drilled into them by the cadre of asexual closet cases called "therapists" who appear on "Ricki", "Oprah" or other such electronic drivel 2) Deluded - into thinking they "deserve" a rich, model-handsome husband who will "take them away from all of this"--whatever the "this" might be--and leading to resentment when they discover that the universe does NOT revolve around them 3) Angry - ALL the damn time about things which are so far out of their control as to be nonsensical--and constantly wanting to "discuss" this mind numbing drivel ad nauseam 4) Psychotic - multiple personalities in the same woman - as "Nomad" put it in the "Star Trek" episode: "Woman...a mass of inconsistencies...", and also when the feminist voices in their heads start with the regrets and victim acculturation 5) Worthless - anything that does not immediately resolve itself in her favor or to her benefit is meaningless to her, especially husband and family 6) Lazy - drilled into their head that they "deserve" a maid, nanny and personal slave to take care of every detail - and that their husband/boyfriend is REQUIRED to cater to their each and every mindless whim 7) Resentful - especially of other women who have things that they do not, in material, spiritual and esoteric senses 8) Greedy - to them, "housekeeping" means getting the house in the divorce (thanks to Zsa Zsa for that immortal line) and sucking the guy for every last cent, even if they had nothing to do with the building of the nest egg 9) Mindless - constant, irritating, idle prattle about topics they read about in some women's magazine and then become instant experts--particularly pop psychology and the latest crap they see on "Oprah" or "Ricki" 10) Vain - believing that they are irresistible to everything in pants and therefore are allowed to behave sluttish and without any honor

  214. Bill

    This thread has it all, even a midget with a chip on his little shoulder it seems. Anyway I wish the moderator would clean up the encyclopedic cut and pastes. Just post a link if you think someone is interested in an incoherent two hour rambling read Alba AKA (Steve55). Oh and I still say "Jeff" is a chick. Probably quite hefty at that.

  215. Mrs. Smith

    As a non American woman married to an American man, this is what I have to say: http://curiousmrssmith.yolasite.com/blog/non-american-wife American women are not just cold and heartless to American men, they are treating their foreign wives with same disrespect. Feel free to visit my blog and read full article. Thank you very much. Message to all single American men, that are looking for a warm home, good food and nice family - avoid American woman.

  216. SillyAmerican

    It's alright boys, I wouldn't date you either. I won't be trading in my hiking boots for heals, jeans for dresses, or my dreams to be someone I'm not to make you all happy. I'll finish my masters and head for a PhD. The best part about it all? I have the world's greatest husband that supports me through it all. I would do anything to make him smile, to support him at the end of a rough day, and to share dreams with. Judge me all you will, you're pretty good at it after all. P.S. There is a roughly an equal ratio of men in America that act, for all intents and purposes, the same way that you characterize American women. Their wants may be different but most often are just as trivial. Not to mention it's hard to hold a conversation with someone who can only talk about one of three things: Halo, beer and sex.

  217. Ari

    Thankyou for your post Diana :) it was intelligent and entertaining and offered an objective viewpoint which majority of the posts here are lacking. I'm an Australian woman with Irish heritage and stumbled accross the idea that northern American and apparently western woman in general make bad wife's. It's troubling to some degree because of australias tendency to mimic American culture and unfortunately I can see a lot of the stereotypes being posted by men here about American woman (overweight, self centered, unable to cook/clean ect) to be true in the next generation of Australian woman. I love the rights I am granted in this country and never take them for granted but I do think that girls should act like girls and men should act like men. it's a national shame when I see young girls here running around in denim shorts drinking and swearing and being completely unladylike. However, it also must be said that western men are no picnic either. The last three guys I've dated, two Australian and one American have been alcohol sculling ungrateful manwhores who all had a ridiculously high no of sex partners and thought I'd be impressed when they attempted to brag to me about it. Ew. Ive completely given up on western men for the time being and am dating a nice boy from hong kong who doesnt drink much, doesn't sleep around and knows how to treat me in a way that makes me want to surprise him with nice meals and clean up his place when he's at work. When I spend a lot of time on my appearance he says I look beautiful rather than hot and makes an effort to compliment me. Yes it's true that western woman need to ditch the jeans, put on dresses and start acting like feminine woman again, but you western men need to sober up and start acting like decent gentlemen again too.

  218. Steve Barr

    Dramatized, sickened, dissapointed but won't have it anymore. . .my "CHOICE". Don't like it. . .don't care. I did NOT make your bed. . .YOU did. A good man need do nothing at all. . .then he wins Till death be us apart Live long and prosper

  219. Angela

    As an American woman who not only is the breadwinner of the house, but also finds time to cook my husband and children dinner almost every night, keep up my part-time business, study Flamenco dancing, and enjoy a very mutually satisfying sex life...I'm floored by this. I just shared this post with my male friends (most of whom are VERY well traveled) and every single one of them thought it was a (bad) joke. My husband and brother-in-law recently got back from a 3 month trip where they stayed in India, Russia, and Germany. According to them, the men he met from these countries had no ill feelings whatsoever towards American women, in fact one Russian man he met was very happily married to one. In 2010, I visited Bahia, Brazil for 2 months. The (very attractive) girl I was staying with was engaged to a British man, and her best friend to a South African man. They both told me that Brazilian women avoid American men as far as marriage, as they are "known" for all being dishonest and unfaithful. I feel very stupid now for the passion I displayed in DEFENDING American men against this childish generalization. It's obvious by the uninhibited and naturally flowing degradation coming from the minds of the men who have convinced themselves that American women are useless, do not know how to treat a woman. If you meet a woman who is acting like a princess, demanding, treating you like garbage, cheating on you, cant cook or clean - then don't bother with her. For every spoiled princess, there are 5 gracious and down to earth girls who are willing to give of themselves to be in a happy and fulfilled relationship. It's very pitiful to see how some can blame their brutal lack of self esteem on others. It's a very unattractive quality in either sex.

  220. James

    I feel the same about English women, and men too in fact. I'm going to leave to look for a non-western woman, and expect I'll settle in South America. Our culture is mind-bogglingly shallow, self-absorbed to self-obsessed, proud, and I find others from my generation arrogant, rude, angry, competitive, ignorant, shallow. I find the rationalisation that any man who criticises women must be a loser quite funny, but not surprising.

  221. Andre

    The essence of the current problem (circa 2012) with American women in the United States is as follows: Due to a self awareness of the vast powerful federal and state laws which give her a protected status vis a vis males (and society in general), she no longer needs the physical and financial protection of males. But American males still need emotional support, sexual contact, and affection of a woman. Removed of this natural contract which previously bound the sexes together, American females now experience males to be superfluous to her survival. As an American male you will inarticulacy feel that American females are not your contemporary; but rather are in some inexplicable way "above you". How does this play out? As an American male, you might be in the same room as American female, standing beside her, talk to her, etc. but you never get the sense that you two are occupying the same time-space thread. You don't feel she is your peer. In fact, you are invisible to her. But when an American male meets a foreign women it's often a much different feeling: There's and instant understanding at a primal level, even though you might not speak the same language, let alone know anything about her culture. There is a mutual respect. Summary: American males DO have contemporaries, but they occupy threads of time and space that run through places across the globe often referred to as "underdeveloped" nations. Ie, Eastern Europe, South American, Africa, etc. Personally, I have noticed a large change in American women over the last 25 years due to consolidation of their protected status and consolidation of their power over males. It is not good for American women (unbeknownst to them, they have become old spinsters in training) and it is not good for men (the smart ones are leaving the country permanently when finances allow).

  222. michijo

    Yes, true American women are not "buddies" in any sense that I have known. I am an American male, and I have never really dated an American woman. I had one friend one time who was an American woman, but she was very nagging, always wanted to buy different types of shoes, and seemed to want to live in the best neighborhood even when it clearly was beyond her finances. That being said, I have almost exclusively date Latino women who were already legal residents of the USA and didn't need me for money or citizenship. Even on Okcupid, I have noticed non-American women respond to messages more often. Like A Serbian woman I was writing to who grew up in Pennsylvania and was basically an American woman but first generation Serbian. The real issue was simply that she wrote back to me in a "buddy-like" manner, and all the white American women neglected to write back. Furthermore, the American women on Okcupid seemed somehow aloof, untouchable, like their profiles were there as "teases". Maybe some of them were even fake profiles put on there by Okcupid to make it seem like more women were in the area than actually were! I dont know, but only non-white Americans responded.

  223. Phil

    American women spend the first half of their lives pissed off because a bunch of creeps are trying to screw them all the time and the second half pissed off because those creeps are the only ones that are still interested. Yuck to those self entitled bitches!!

  224. Bernie

    It never occurred to me to read a blog about the perception of American Women abroad until I started world wide travel a few months ago. For most of my life, finding a good relationship in the US has been difficult. Just like finding a needle in a hay stack to quote an over used analogy. Rather than blame all American women for my bad luck, I decided to "man up" and blame myself for not having the qualities that most women in the US are looking for. So I started reading books on how to be a better man and even went to a seminar or two on self improvement. Having always thought of myself as a good catch because of being a decent guy and having a high income, I figured all the trouble I was having with the women I was dating was due to the fact that I lacked the bad boy qualities that many, but certainly not all, women instinctively crave. Then I took a long business trip through several Asian countries and my self perception changed forever. I am now in Thailand and it is striking to me how much different it is engaging in conversations with local women here then it is back home in the USA. I'm not referring to the notorious "ladies of the night" that Bangkok is well known for either. I have no interest in such women. I'm talking about average girls working at the Mall or meeting you in a Coffee shop. It's such a stark contrast from the "Please don't look or speak to me" energy that I get from the average US woman, that I was simply overwhelmed by it. I remember having to think of appropriate things to say and ways to behave when I approached US women when I was back home. It was always a major ordeal and usually met with mixed results. I sensed a "You have 30 seconds to impress me or get lost" feel to MOST women that I tried to strike up a conversation with. I simply accepted this as a fact of life that was universally true with every woman in the world. It was a challenge that I figured I have to overcome if I wanted to be a "real man". Much to my very pleasant surprise, reticence to engage in friendly, non sexual, conversation ISN'T a universal feminine trait. Most women in the world DO NOT assume that they're going to be assaulted or creeped-out if a guy they just met speaks to them. My self confidence and just general happiness level has never been higher and I'm finding it amazingly easy to meet women and just have a pleasant conversation. I am absolutely floored by the display of 100 percent pure femininity and delight that women here take in being girls. Girls in their mannerisms, dress and general style. Rarely do I sense even a hint of masculine, "Take Charge" energy that I routinely encounter with women back home in the USA. I'm not writing this post to dump on or even blame US women for all of the dating problems in America. God knows US men have more then their share to blame for the relationship mess that exist. I do wish to say, however, that our culture has taught our women, that femininity equals weakness, therefore you should act more masculine. It has taught them that catering to the needs of a guy, in anyway, is the same as setting yourself up to be a door mat. It has taught them that us guys are kind of dumb and untrustworthy so you have to be a little (or even a lot) bitchy to them to keep them in check and on their toes. My overseas experience has, once and for all, settled this as an almost uniquely American cultural change for the worst in American females. Now seeing the stark cultural differences in female behaviors around the world, I now see opportunities for a great monogamous relationship that I had long sense given up on.

  225. CeliaM

    It's hysterical when American women have the nerve to be indignant when someone points out the truth about them! I am a first generation American woman of European descent and I will tell you that I am ashamed of my status of being an American woman. These manly, nasal voiced, porn star wannabes are the most disgusting vile creatures this world has ever produced. As a feminine, sensual, classy female I have either experienced the brunt of their jealousy or have seen with disasterous effects how they try to emulate me. They have not one iota what it is that makes up being a woman. No mystery, too lazy to cook healthy meals for their families (just take a look at the long lines in the Mcdonalds drive throughs) and the most ungainly militant mannerisms. Hostility always lingers under the surface of these miserable beings no matter how hard they try to suppress it. Maybe if American men do boycott them in favor of foreign women, they will be forced to learn to be real women again. My God! Is that even possible for them at this point? Good luck to all you men who have made the wise decision to look elsewhere. Good choice!

  226. CeliaM

    Let me add another statistic here. American women lose their fertility at ridiculously young ages. I spoke with an Asian friend of mine who has a sister that just had a baby. I was shocked because his sister is 44 years old. He was amused at my reaction and couldn't understand why I would be suprised. In America there are women going into menopause earlier and earlier. Some in their late 30's!!! I don't know if it's all the fake food they eat that is damaging their reproductive systems or if somehow something in them is shutting down for other reasons. It is interesting to note that there was an author who was writing a book set in the 1800's. When he did extensive research on that time period in America he discovered something really amazing. It was not uncommon to see a woman in her late 40's with a new born in her arms. In this day and age this would be something of a rarity among American women.

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  229. Capster78

    Just a reply to one of your posts from another person. Question: The value that Western women believe they possess compared to what they can actually offer a man is so out of whack it’s laughable.” Your Counter Question: What about the value that western MEN believe they have to offer? My Answer: What men in general, have to offer, is no longer valued by American Women. Women can either purchase these things from a business as a result of their newly found equal rights in the workplace (handy men, car mechanics, carpenters.. ect ect), or they can find a plethora of eager poor men willing to help a woman just to get some attention from her. Now that women no longer need men as providers, we are reduced to being valued for being funny, charming, good looking, excessivley rich and also submissive to their wife. These things only last for so long, usually during the courting process when men have to put on a show for a woman by being these things. After the man has no more new and interesting ways to make her laugh, stops being charming because he's got you now and does not have to, gains a few lbs staying at home because you are to insecure to let him go anywhere and enjoy anything on his own, and eventually goes into debt because you spend all his money while saving all of your own.. Or even worse, spending your money and his money on yourself. An American women will get bored, divorce him, and find another guy that interests her in these ways again. Your retort: You mentioned that western women have overlooked you in the past because you’re a little chubby (your words) and yet one of the reasons you list for not dating a western women is because she doesn’t take care of her body. But what about you, Alex? My Answer: Look around, how many really attractive women do you see with fat guys? How many decent looking guys do you see dating chubby or overweight women? I have made this observation over and over. I rarely see a really attractive girl with a fat guy, but I cant go anywhere without seeing a much slimmer guy with a big girl. Making this observation, I come to 3 conclusions. One is that attractive women simply don't date fat guys which means they are the more shallow sex. The second is that there are not enough attractive women to go around for men, which is why they accept women bigger than they are just for female attention. Or that there is a pool of attractive women who simply choose to stay single and only the minority of really attractive charming guys are privy to them. Which means you have a small crowd of very lucky guys who get easy attention from a lot of girls. None of these perceptions are flattering for American Women. Your question: Is it fair to hold western women to standards that you don’t hold for yourself? My answer: Maybe we should be asking American women this question. Why do american women rarely marry down in income? Why do american women dress so terribly but expect a man to be fashionable? Why do american women insist on the legal system be biased against men (alimony, child custody, divided property). Your question: You condemn western women for overeating and then demanding that people ‘love them the way they are’. But isn’t that what you want from people as well? For someone to ‘love you the way you are’? You think women in America love men for who they are? American men are the laughing stock of America. All you have to do is switch on the TV and you see it first hand. In commercials and movies, the woman is always the sensible one, while the man is a bumbling bafoon who messes everything up. The fact that you even have to put up with us, is demeaning to you. That is why American women always have this demeaning scowl on their face when someone mentions what their husband or boyfriend did. And then the man bashing begins.. all females join in.. He does not deserve you... then you get this silly little thought into your head that you deserve better. Funny thing is that you wrote this article obviously wishing to get responses and when you get them, you push them off to the side as writings from a broken hearted man.

  230. Fred

    I lived in Eastern Europe for many years. I also lived in Central America. Here is my take on American women. They are the most revolting women to look at; they have the most revolting personalities. A 10 in America would be a 2 or a 3 in Eastern Europe. American women have negative value. They are a liability. The paradox is that American women actually BELIEVE they are beautiful and have positive value. In fact, America women behave as if they are the most beautiful and intelligent women in the world. I don't know how this happened. I regard it as one of the mysteries of the 21st century. But the word is getting out. Even neutral search terms like "dating American women" bring up websites and comments that reveal the awful truth about American women. And of course, marriage rates to American women are plummeting; no one wants them. My advice to American women is this. If you want a companion, go lesbian and get an American girlfriend, And for God sakes, don't have children. Let's breed these awful American women genes out of the universe in the the next 30 years or so. If I could think of one word to describe America women it would be this: HUMAN GARBAGE.

  231. knight rider 2012

    Ok Here is a shot at tough but fair. There is a side to North America that incredibly empathetic towards others. Remember the side that likes fair play and family values... The side that puts itself on the line for others without hesitation and quite frankly risks even their lives for others. That is a side of North America that I do long admire and love. This being said yes... there can be American women with these types of qualities, sadly however this seems to be eroding with modern points of views and a misplaced feelings of entitlement. Yes Good american women can be found.......... however you might need to look a little harder these days. People seem to have forgotten the sense of making your partners needs and wants as important as your own. There seems to be a sense of Me first..... and then MAYBE you. Now Is there something wrong with me or How can you not see whats wrong with this mentaility? Im a firm believer of equality. Of men and women being equal. Sharing an equal partnership in your relationship. Im also a believer in giving your partner special treatment because she is the one you care about. However there is a very big difference between that and a sense of entitlement, dominance and control that some people can take when this point of view is abused. In my opinion that is unacceptable. Good treatment is good treatment. Poor treatment is just that poor treatment. There is no excuse for it. I have sensed what some people say about some women here in North America. Its like a contempt for others. Almost as if you're unworthy of even being looked at. Even though I'm Athletic, Educated, and well dressed. Most of the time is by women ive never met in my life, and no I dont act strangely. I just dont get that. I do have to say Ive noticed this issue too. The subject of this thread, I DONT think its something marginal but might be a bit EXAGERATED on some of the posts here. Ive also noticed this People in North America seem to admire women who are forceful and to put it midly a bit abrupt. I tend to admire people who can achieve what they want with common respect and good treatment that people deserve, dont you?

  232. Jessica Alba

    Eastern European women told me, a European, I should never trust and body that is born in the United States and, only trust, people who are born in Europe. Eastern European women also told me that any body that is born in the United States is a piece of crap. Eastern European women have advised me a European man to stay away from American women and to stick to European women. They say that European man and there US born American son in the United States should only marry European born women (example, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom) and speak your native language Dutch to your children while the mother should only speak her native language to the same children. That way your US born American children should have the skills to live and work in Belgium/Netherlands if you decide to move back to Belgium/Netherlands in the future even if they have an German, Italian, Swedish, or even a Greek born mother. European born mothers will make sure of that. If an American citizen (male and female) does not have the skills to live and work in Europe as easily as an average European and is hated by eastern European women who says that you are a piece of crap, because you, stick out: to be very easily noticed because of being different, in Europe, than you will never get a job at the US State Department. This would even be the case if you are liked by most Europeans/Belgium’s/Italians/Swedish when you visit Europe. The US State Department does not care if you have American or European parents, because this would be considered discrimination under US law. This is because other countries example Canadians and people in the Middle East (Iran) can declare US diplomats for any reason Persona non grata (Latin, plural: personae non gratae), literally meaning "an unwelcome person", is a legal term used in diplomacy that indicates a proscription against a person entering the country.

  233. Jessica Alba

    Eastern European women told me, a European, I should never trust and body that is born in the United States and, only trust, people who are born in Europe. Eastern European women also told me that any body that is born in the United States is a piece of crap. Eastern European women have advised me a European man to stay away from American women and to stick to European women. They say that European man and there US born American son in the United States should only marry European born women (example, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom) and speak your native language Dutch to your children while the mother should only speak her native language to the same children. That way your US born American children should have the skills to live and work in Belgium/Netherlands if you decide to move back to Belgium/Netherlands in the future even if they have an German, Italian, Swedish, or even a Greek born mother. European born mothers will make sure of that. If an American citizen (male and female) does not have the skills to live and work in Europe as easily as an average European and is hated by eastern European women who says that you are a piece of crap, because you, stick out: to be very easily noticed because of being different, in Europe, than you will never get a job at the US State Department. This would even be the case if you are liked by most Europeans/Belgium’s/Italians/Swedish when you visit Europe. The US State Department does not care if you have American or European parents, because this would be considered discrimination under US law. This is because other countries example Canadians and people in the Middle East (Iran) can declare US diplomats for any reason Persona non grata (Latin, plural: personae non gratae), literally meaning “an unwelcome person”, is a legal term used in diplomacy that indicates a proscription against a person entering the country. For example American women raised by Greek parents told me that the grand daughters (second generation US born) of her parents (her sisters children) speak Greek, have American & Greek passports. She also says that when they visit Greece people in think they are born in Greece (it is impossible to tell that they are born in the United States) and are not more Americanized than an average European born expatriate living in the United States. This is because Greek immigrant parents raised their children and grand children the same way they are raised, it is impossible to tell that they are born in the United States. This is why when they visit their grand parents native country Greece and speak Greek every body in Greece thinks they are born in Greece and it is impossible to tell that they are born in the United States. Because they have a European born father, than they can probably only handle European man, like their father. They also know that most Americans citizens do not have the skills to live and work in Europe with their behavior and mentality. Their father was born in Italy. Eastern European women who hate American women think they are born in Greece not the United States. They can be equally trusted as their Greek grand parents can. Her brother who was born and raised in the United States moved to his parent’s native country Greece and can integrate in Greece easier than in the United States. Her bother does not want his Greek born daughters to have any thing to do with the United States and visit the United States before there 18 birthday other than having a US social security number and a US Consular Report of Birth Abroad (proof of US Citizenship). This is very common among US born and raised man who have European parents. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. Americans who are raised by European parents get some thing extra from our European parents 100 percent because of our upbringing that Americans who are raised by American parents do not get. That is that when we walk the streets in Europe every body thinks we are born in Europe we can behave like a typical European even if we only speak English just as easily as our European parents can (still have European mentality) and it is impossible to tell that we are born in the United States and that we are Americans. It would appear that we are born in Europe not the United States even if we are born in the United States. Eastern women who hate American women/men think that they were born in Greece, and this is the only reason why they like me. This is 100 percent because of the way they were raised by their European born parents/grand parents when they were an infant/toddler/child. A few years earlier I saw a 12-year-old girl with her Germany mother at work. I thought she was from Germany, because she is not more Americanized than an average German child that has never been to the USA and her German mother. She was born around 1998. That was the first thing I noticed when I saw her with her German mother. I also noticed that she is better behaved than most American children/adults, and has a better relationship with German mother than most American children have with there American mother. She was speaking German to her mother. She told me that when she visits Germany it is impossible to tell that she is an American (born in the USA). Her German mother conformed that that is correct. A German corporate officer told me in the United States, the reason this is the case is because a German mother raises her children the same way she was raised and this can be done in the United States just as easily as in Germany. There for it would appear that he/she is born in Germany even if they are born United States and it is impossible to tell that they are born in the United States. According to her German mother she has the skills to live in Germany as easily as her German parents can and can be equally be trusted as her mother. Eastern European women who hate American women think she is born in the Germany, and know that she can be equally be trusted as her German mother and has the skills to live in Germany as easily as her German mother can and it is impossible to tell that she is born in the United States when she travels to Europe. This child speaks English with an American accent, and this is the only give away that she has lived in the United States for a long time, but this does not look negative on her. This child has a German father but some have an American father. This is how a German father who works for a European company in the United States expects his daughter to be raised. This German father expects his German wife to make sure that his daughter has the skills to live in Germany, as easily as her German mother can. This is because she may have to move back to Germany when she is a child/adult with their German parents and need these skills to integrate in Germany as easily as her German parents, can. This girl can probably only handle a romantic relationship with a European man just like her German daddy and can’t deal with American man. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. Americans who are raised by European parents get some thing extra from our European parents 100 percent because of our upbringing that Americans who are raised by American parents do not get. That is that when we walk the streets in Europe every body thinks we are born in Europe we can behave like a typical European speak our parents native language (some only speak English) just as easily as our European parents can (still have European mentality) and it is impossible to tell that we are born in the United States and that we are Americans. It would appear that we are born in Europe not the United States even if we are born in the United States. When I visit Germany and speak German every body in German thinks I was born in Germany, but I was born in the United States and have lived my entire live I the United States. My mother was born in Germany. Eastern women who hate American women/men think that I was born in Germany, and this is the only reason why they like me. This is 100 percent because of the way I is raised by my German born mother when I was an infant/toddler/child. This applies to both male and female children/adults who are raised by German born mothers. I have seen a girl (a child now a teenager) who I thought was born in Brazil and was speaking Portuguese. I asked her if she was born in Brazil and she told me that she was born in the United States and has lived her entire live in the United States. She says that she is a citizen of Brazil because her mother is born in Brazil and is also a citizen of Italy, because her daddy is born in Italy. She has a very good relationship with her Italian daddy. Most Brazilian women including her mother are raised the same way as most European women and have the skills to live and work in Italy/Portugal/Spain. This girl is raised the same way as most European/Brazilian women and can be equally be trusted as her Italian father. This Italian man married a woman from Brazil, because a Brazilian mother can raises her American daughter that way just as easily as a European born mother because it is very difficult to find an American women that can be trusted to do the job. I had American man telling me that you should only marry and have children (have sex with) with foreign-born (unwed or married) women in the United States and stay away from American women, if you do not want to pay court ordered child support driven out of your children’s lives, and tread as criminal/crap/garbage, by an American women. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. Americans who are raised by European parents get some thing extra from our European parents 100 percent because of our upbringing that Americans who are raised by American parents do not get. That is that when we walk the streets in Europe every body thinks we are born in Europe we can behave like a typical European speak our parents native language (some only speak English) just as easily as our European parents can (still have European mentality) and it is impossible to tell that we are born in the United States and that we are Americans. It would appear that we are born in Europe not the United States even if we are born in the United States. When I visit Europe and speaks Portuguese every body in Europe thinks I was born in Brazil/Portugal, but I was born in the United States and have lived my entire live I the United States. My mother was born in Brazil. Eastern women who hate American women/men think that I was born in Brazil/Portugal, and this is the only reason why they like me. This is 100 percent because of the way I is raised by my Brazil born mother when I was an infant/toddler/child. This applies to both male and female children/adults who are raised by Brazil born mothers.

  234. Jessica Alba

    Avoid American Women When Possible There. I said it. American women are, with the usual exceptions, out-and-out bitches. They are raised with one goal in mind: to get you to sign a contract obligating you to hand over half of everything you have and to fund their desire to reproduce. And they will do whatever they have to do to accomplish their goal of getting you to marry them. Sex as a loss leader just the way that Albertson's sells six-packs of Pepsi for 99 cents? Absolutely. Laugh at your bad jokes? You bet. Do anything and everything you want sexually (until the contract is safely signed)? By all means. Don't you know the drill by now? If not, visit your local supermarket at about 10 AM any weekday and it is there in front of you: the truth in all its glory. 180 pounders who have chopped their hair off and who slog around in leggings or sweat pants screaming and yelling at a passel of kids that some poor hostage is paying for. These human Cinnabons are the ballbusters who do practically nothing during the day and then complain about all of the things you forget to do or don't do well enough for their liking. How many of you sit watching the late night replay of tonight's Tampa Bay Rays or Memphis Grizzlies game or Poker After Dark at your local bar rather than go home and be told that, once again, you failed to remember to take out the garbage? When I see these chicks gathering at Starbucks during the day, I think of the poor slobs who are paying for those five dollar lattes. They have their daily meetings of the Beaten Dogs' Club at Hooters, your local sports bar, bowling alleys, and your neighborhood barber shop. Some of these guys are the IT guys at your office who never go home. At radio stations, they are the Chief Engineers who are, amazingly, always on call. Ever wonder why some people are so devoted to their jobs? Even notice that those who are so devoted are almost never women? As many of you know, I am America's Original Feminist. That is why I insist on total equality. Starting with the dinner tab, ladies. Then, let's move on to the lifting of heavy objects or getting up to let one of you cows sit down on the bus. Never going to happen because I believe in Gender Equality. Sure I'll give you my seat: right after you iron my shirt and make me some fucking lunch! And when is the last time you ladies did something like that? 1970? American women have been trained to be "strong" and "in charge." Great. If I needed to be with someone like that, I'd marry a Marine. I stopped dating American women long ago because I was tired of hearing about all the things that were wrong with me or about how inadequate I am. The women of Latin America (and their daughters) may have tempers, but even after an argument, they will always ask if you've eaten today and if you took a jacket to work. And sex? Any time, any place. They know that being 180 pounds is unacceptable, and cutting their hair off? It just doesn't happen! I haven't been to a bowling alley or a Hooters in years, and I believe that this is why. For the most part, foreign women just don't see marriage as a permanent visit to the gravy train. Some students live in parts of the country where women of other cultures are few and far between. My advice? Move! Thank God for our liberal immigration policy! Courtesy: http://www.leykis101.com/tip-of-the-day/avoid-american-women-when-possible

  235. sedrick

    I personally think American women are dirty and disgusting. I have no interest I these women and the ones I have met are not impressive at all. I personally find east European and Asian women to be some of the most beautiful women and have enjoyed every relationship. I can understand why American men have in growing numbers began dating and marrying non American women. It's strange that amercan men are respected worldwide but American women are viewed as lowclass and dirty.

  236. Jesie

    Sheesh.... reading the comments to this blog post make me feel that, as an American Woman, I should just go hide in the corner and not trouble you perfect, amazing American men with my horrible presence. I've been single for a few years now, I'm not overweight, I'm in my late 20s and can't find a decent, relationship minded man ANYWHERE. I make decent money and couldn't care less what he makes (I don't require money to be happy) I have 3 college degrees and work as an aircraft mechanic. I'm extremely nice to men and end up being used and then throw aside for the 'cute idiot blonde'. I lived with a man for 4 years, did ALL the housework, maintained both of our cars (due to my mechanic experience) AND made twice as much money as he did so I paid the majority of the bills. Guess how he repaid me? By cheating on me multiple times with materialistic fake women. Maybe if men started ignoring those women, they'd stop being that way, but they seem to be the ones who get the most attention. Women like me who will actually take care of her man and want an equal partnership are completely ignored for the flashier, trashier women. American men are scum, and I won't be marrying one because they expect to be waited on hand and foot and then cheat on you with those 'fake girls' you guys seem to despise so much. Or, they'll trade you in for a younger model once you get too old. Scum. All of them.

  237. knight rider 2012

    Jesie you seem like a great person. Like I said in my post there are good american women out there. Please, please, please... Do NOT change. People like you are too valuable to loose in our dog eat dog world. Much Luck to you....oh and yes there are nice men out there too. :)

  238. dave

    Ms. Jesie, it sounds like your idea of an "equal " partnership was not the same as your male partner's. What I am hearing from men in their offerings here is that the special little things they may try to do for their special female are taken for granted, as if expected, and that takes away the joy of trying to please someone. Maybe that is just part of the game.

  239. knight rider 2012

    Part of the game maybe but a joyless game? that is a tough one.

  240. Tom

    I thought that Bernie's comments expressed my own experiences almost exactly. He writes, "It’s such a stark contrast from the “Please don’t look or speak to me” energy that I get from the average US woman, that I was simply overwhelmed by it. I remember having to think of appropriate things to say and ways to behave when I approached US women when I was back home. It was always a major ordeal and usually met with mixed results. I sensed a “You have 30 seconds to impress me or get lost” feel to MOST women that I tried to strike up a conversation with. I simply accepted this as a fact of life that was universally true with every woman in the world. It was a challenge that I figured I have to overcome if I wanted to be a “real man”. Much to my very pleasant surprise, reticence to engage in friendly, non sexual, conversation ISN’T a universal feminine trait. Most women in the world DO NOT assume that they’re going to be assaulted or creeped-out if a guy they just met speaks to them. My self confidence and just general happiness level has never been higher and I’m finding it amazingly easy to meet women and just have a pleasant conversation. I am absolutely floored by the display of 100 percent pure femininity and delight that women here take in being girls. Girls in their mannerisms, dress and general style. Rarely do I sense even a hint of masculine, “Take Charge” energy that I routinely encounter with women back home in the USA. " I spent most of my life taking care of a family and then ended up divorced at the age of 51. Hadn't traveled outside of the U.S.A. before that (except to the Arctic for work) and had little experience with women from other cultures. I started traveling then. Lived in Canada for 7 years, teaching, then ended up in China. Since then, I've been living mostly in SE Asia. First noticed a difference when I was working with immigrants in Canada. Assumed that the women were so much nicer because I was helping them with their problems (my job was helping immigrants get squared away with the new culture. The men were equally nice, so I just assumed they were all being polite because I was helping them). Then, by invitation, I went to China to visit. I was offered a job there and, after considering for a few months, decided to try it out. I've now had two relationships with Chinese women. The first got really messed up because neither of us really understood the other's culture and expectations well enough. In the end, I misinterpreted one of her actions (a reality check with others from my own culture indicates most people would have done the same, but people from her culture understand her behavior perfectly. So, no fault, but real tragedy and I regret it did not work out to this day). The second relationship is ongoing and seems to get more solid all the time, even though we deal with communication problems all the time. I have to agree with the comment I've seen expressed here, and heard from other expat friends, to the effect that once you've had a relationship with a decent Chinese woman (there are the other kind), you'll never go back to a relationship with a North American woman (I include Canadian women here). I have tried to understand what the difference is, and it seems to me to come down to one very basic thing. North American women just do not really like men. No matter how much a North American woman loves you, she doesn't like you, just because you are a male. They have been telling themselves certain stories about how abusive men are and have been, for so long, that they simply cannot have any good feelings about men. The media, as others have noted, play into this by portraying men as bumbling fools who can only be saved by the intervention of the much wiser woman in his live. Interestingly, North American women have something in common with Christian beliefs: both the Christians and the women believe in original sin, but whereas the Christians think everyone has it, N.A. women think only men have it. The Chinese women I have been involved with do not have this attitude, nor this story running in their heads. In consequence, and in contrast to the N.A. women, the Chinese woman will continue to love her man (and respect him as a human being) even when she is furious with him. I have been thoroughly criticized by both of my partners, no holds barred. When I commented on the intensity of the criticism, both replied (with somewhat baffled expressions) that they only bothered with the criticism because they did actually care about me. If they didn't care, they wouldn't bother to criticize. Neither are they doormats nor shrinking violets, nor subservient, nor any of the other things N.A. women seem to think N.A. men want from these women. They ARE, in fact, just damned good company: intelligent, attractive, accomplished, educated, interesting, dynamic, comfortable with sexuality and the part that men and women play in it, realistic and practical about relationships, equally demanding of themselves and their partner when it comes to the relationship, humorous and joyful. N.A. women can believe that Asian women are constantly abused if they like, but I see these women laughing and enjoying their lives much more than N.A. women ever do, even though their standard of living is much lower and they do with many fewer luxuries. Another point that Bernie makes impressed me. Women here are approachable....it's absolutely true. If I approach a woman on the street with a question (typically asking for directions), there is nothing of the unapproachable stand-offishness, the suspicion, the hostility that I would get from approaching a N.A. woman. Instead, I will receive a big smile and, likely as not, a statement of, "Oh, I'll show you." Women begin conversations with me all the time, with no apprehension or reserve. It is a pure joy to talk with these women, because there is none of the feeling of walking through a minefield of verbal traps that N.A. women put in place. And don't believe that they start conversations with only me, because I'm a foreigner; they talk as freely to any man they feel like talking to. It is very much a brother/sister kind of feeling, a true comaraderie that I enjoy tremendously. There is no sexual undercurrent; there are no traps; it is just two poeple enjoying each other's company. In Canada, I had to counsel men from other cultures to be extremely careful about approaching Canadian women in the street, or anywhere else in public for that matter. I especially cautioned them not to make any flattering remarks and, in fact, to avoid any personal comments at all, in order to avoid the possibilty of being charged with harrassment. This because in their cultures, women were not nearly so prickly and ready to assume the worst motivation in any man who approached them so these men had no experience with this kind of thing. In return, I have yet to see any Chinese woman being harrassed, although I have read of some incidents of Western men harrassing some women. I suspect that some Western men, especially N.A. men, misinterpret the openness and approachability of Chinese women as "availability" since that is what such behavior would signal in North America. The women here are comfortable with being women, and with their own sexuality and sensuality. Sex is for family and fun, and is considered a normal human/animal need. There is none of the Puritan mawkishness and sense of shame that most N. Americans (including the men) have. When N.A. women want to be sexy, they often come off as simply trashy, because they do not know how to do it naturally and gracefully. Watching Chinese women walking down the street is a treat. They move with grace, hips swinging, heads high, absolutely delightful. On the occasions when I see a N.A. woman on the street, she truly seems to have a stick up her backside. The hips barely move, as if she's afraid she might appear like a woman, one of those weak-willed creatures she's been taught she shouldn't ever be. And it is true that Chinese women (in fact most women from S. America, Asia, and Africa) are in much better physical condition than N. American women are (can't speak for European women). So, getting back to Bernie and his comments--it was a genuine awakening for me to experience the ease of social intercourse with women in Asia. The women treat me as a full human being, not a rapist-waiting-for-an-opportunity or a potential abuser. As I mentioned, our relationships are much like brother/sister. Casual physical contact is common and carries no hidden meanings or innuendos (if it does, you are in no doubt of it, because she will say so) nor any dangers. It is common for men and women to be excellent friends without any sexual relationship (contra the nonsense in "When Harry Met Sally"). Like so many of the other men here, though with perhaps somewhat less bitterness, I also would never bother to have another relationship with a N.A. woman. I know that there are good women in N. America, but the chances of meeting one are slim at best. Twenty years ago, when I was an active hang glider pilot, we had an interesting observation from the father of one of the group with whom I flew. He had come to visit his son and had been hanging out with us for a couple of weeks. He noted that all of us were accomplished men, had good jobs, were well behaved and responsible, were in good condition and decent looking, but that none of us were married and only one had a girlfriend. He wondered why. The answer, after some discussion, was that the women who were available were more trouble than they were worth. But, now that I am out of my own culture and have met women from other cultures, I can see that our difficulty was merely one of location. I am very happy to have had the opportunity to meet and be involved with women who do not treat me with veiled disdain and suspicion, who do not feel like I owe them something to make up for all the sins men have purportedly visited on other women before them (or on her before me). I enjoy the woman who genuinely enjoys my company, who enjoys being a woman, who enjoys the fact that I appreciate her beauty, sexuality, and sensuality without feeling threatened by it, I feel like a huge weight of obligation has been removed. I LIKE THESE WOMEN. And they like me. If I find them attractive, they appreciate that fact instead of feeling threatened or diminished by it, because they know that sex and sexuality is an integral part of our animal and human nature. It makes them feel like competent females. In contrast, no matter how good a relationship I had with a N.A. woman, always (always) there would come a time when the comment would slip her lips that gave the show away ( "just like a man." "typical." ). Don't get that here. Glad to be here.

  241. A Lady

    As an American woman I feel conflicted. I grew up with feminist but also traditional views so when it comes to relationships I get confused in what role I am supposed assume. I saw this confusion in my mother who worked long hours and then came home and continued to do housework and cooking. She is now unable to do anything as the years of strain have destroyed her body. My father retired at an early age, he did nothing and expected my mother to do everything because housework was the traditional role for a woman, but since he didn't work she was also supposed to be the breadwinner. For years I watched my mother give all she could to support her family and with every passing year she became more mentally and physically exhausted. When I think of marriage nowadays this is what I see my life becoming. My parents are divorced now, my mother is relaxing and my father is learning domestic duties with help from me and my sister. They are both doing better because of it, for this I am glad. However, I am unable to pursue a relationship with any man. I don't hate men, I respect many of the men I have met over the years. I just don't know how I can be married to one. I am taught to love them yet to compete against them. I am taught to be independent yet to be dependent on a man. Being a woman in America is confusing. Now that I see how American men feel, I am even more confused. There is no solution, there is either love or power. So what is more important? If I choose love do I become like my mother? If I choose power do I remain alone forever? Is there any middle ground? American women, we are not goddesses, we are not entitled to anything unless we have worked for it. We are not victims, we are just confused. American men, you are not gods, you are not entitled to anything unless you have worked for it. However, you have been wronged, I see that but please don't hate American women forever we are still confused.

  242. John Hamilton

    WOW! This is tons of fun, i.e. listening to the respective biases that fail to site any type of neutral, 3rd party studies much less empirical evidence! This is tantamount to arguing about differences in faith. "HOWEVER"................ For the record and as a point of reference; I am the father of 5 girls and 1 boy who are all equally near and dear to me. I wish all of them equal rights and opportunities in life but none of them are any more "entitled" to anything than the other and if they want something, they must first EARN it, PERIOD! Here's where the "HOWEVER" comes in; I have "counseled" all my kids as to the importance of having respect and tolerance for all people regardless of any differences they may exhibit, HOWEVER, I have also told them to "think for themselves" and to never accept injustice or cruelty of any kind whatsoever and further, that if they have a passion for something, that "something" does not equate to "entitlement" in disparaging opposing viewpoints, HOWEVER, I have told my son that being a "gentleman" is becoming a lost quality and I've told my girls that being a "lady" is becoming an equally lost quality. It seems that in today's world, no discussion with any degree of difference in perspectives, remains civil and respectful and usually quickly degenerates into a contest in name calling as it has here. HOWEVER, I do believe that in many respects, the "pendulum" has swung too far in terms of acceptance of bad behavior by women when compared to men (especially on TV, etc.) as well as in the justice system where women do hold a decided advantage over men. HOWEVER, I must tell all the men out there who are giving my last observation "high five's" this; YOU are, to a large extent, YOUR own worst enemy! Men are not a united and a galvanized force and so, our elected officials and media pander to the "consensus vote" (as it were) because the squeaky wheel gets the grease and the "non-consensus" gets the shaft! It seems to me that men just don't care enough and are complacent in terms of dealing with the injustice they perceive being administered at their expense (and guys, it is not merely a perception, you are getting screwed over!). So; you want to gripe and complain? Then do so but nothing will change until men decide to get organized and vote in unison, whether it's at the polls or with their billfolds! HOWEVER, and is summation and as a point that illustrates the relative merits of men's complaints about American women vs. American women's rebuttals; here's an irrefutable fact that IS easily substantiated: THE PERCENTAGE OF MARRIAGES BETWEEN AMERICAN MEN AND FOREIGN WOMEN IS INCREASING AT A SIGNIFICANT RATE. THE PERCENTAGE OF MARRIAGES BETWEEN AMERICAN WOMEN AND FOREIGN MEN IS NEARLY NON-EXISTENT. I BELIEVE THIS SERVES TO DEMONSTRATE SOMETHING OF TRUE SIGNIFICANCE AND IT'S THIS; AMERICAN MEN ARE TIRED AND FED-UP AND SEEK AN EXIT STRATEGY WHILE AMERICAN WOMEN HAVE NO ONE, OTHER THAN "CAPTIVE" AMERICAN MEN, SEEKING THEM FOR SERIOUS RELATIONSHIPS. THE REASON IS SIMPLE; AMERICAN WOMEN HAVE LOST THE "ART" OF BEING WOMEN AND SEEM TO ACTUALLY RESENT IT! A HUGE PERCENTAGE ARE COURSE AND VULGAR, CAUSTIC AND ABRASIVE AND POSSESS AND ATTITUDE OF "ENTITLEMENT". LADIES; YOU WERE LIED TO BY GLORIA STEINEM AND HELEN GURLEY BROWN, YOU CANNOT HAVE IT ALL! NO ONE CAN! LIFE IS FULL OF TOUGH DECISIONS AND BY THE WAY, YOU MADE THE DECISIONS THAT LED TO YOUR STATE OF LIFE. NO MAN HELD A GUN TO YOUR HEAD AND SO, TAKE OWNERSHIP AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND GET OFF THE BAR STOOL AND DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN WAIT FOR YOUR "EX" TO DO IT FOR YOU. By the way, I’m a huge fan of Eastern European women. Why, you ask? They are (generally speaking and ESPECIALLY if compared to most American women), beautiful, intelligent, outgoing, witty, well-educated, worldly, strong in character, socially adept, kind, loving and very feminine while being all these things and...TA DA!!! they LOVE being women!!! Further, they APPRECIATE a man who is a good provider, kind, caring, loving and faithful rather than take these qualities for granted while, at the same time, not giving in return what they feel "entitled" to receive! How do I know this? I am a regular visitor to Slavic countries and have spent time in their culture. I love going there and I will marry a great woman of Slavic heritage if I can ever decide which one! There are so many to chose from who want a good man and so, the decision is difficult! If these ladies could easily come to the US, American men would flock to them in droves. And by the way, American women; these ladies are NOT submissive or weak and would chew you up and spit you out in a New York second and they'd look great doing it! They also have a great sense for fashion that's lost on most of you and they don't look like prostitutes in an attempt to be sexy! They are generally physically fit and take pride in looking great and they do it for their man willingly and wantonly! As I said, they LOVE being women and they do not equate “equality” to being the “same” and recognize the natural laws of attraction between men and women and they know how to use it to their advantage without being demanding or hostile and they make men feel honored in the process! As if these comparisons (which I have lived and experienced, not only witnessed) or the fact that American men are seeking wives from abroad in increasing numbers while foreign men are NOT seeking American women, aren’t enough, consider this; why would any intelligent woman seek conflict and strife knowing they own and control 100% of what men want, rather than employ tact and intelligence in meeting their wants? There is no logic or rationale for illogical and irrational behavior but this; AMERICAN WOMEN ARE IN GENERAL, BITTER, ANGRY AND BELIEVE THEY ARE “ENTITLED” ONLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE VAGINAS! Unfortunately, American women, your vaginas are not nearly attractive enough for an increasing percentage of smart, American men who will not yield to the lunacy of your world! Go EAST, young men!

  243. Tom

    Re: A Lady: You might be confused. Your "sisters" don't seem to be. Most of them don't seem to have given it a moment's thought.

  244. Caribana

    I am a Caribbean woman married to an American guy. He is my everything. I just wanted to say I could understand where the men here are saying as well as the women. It's in our nature as humans to always think the grass is always greener on the other side. To the men here complaining about North American women, does the women in your live fall in that category as well, your mothers, sisters,grandmothers aunts daughters??? In every culture/country there is good and bad. What work for you may not work for another vice versa. My husband has a friend very nice guy, he has been married twice ,both times to Thai women. Well he's divorce now, got laid of with the economy, wife number 2 got use to the way of life and couldn't handle down sizing. I also have met some self absorbed American women who all they cared about is their houses and cars and then I have met some real nice women who are down to earth the same goes for the men, some are so self absorbed and think they are gods gift to women and then some are real gentlemen..like my husband of course ;) .

  245. Tom

    Hi, Caribana: It's definitely not a case of the grass is greener for me. I'm not standing, looking over the fence......I crossed the fence and THEN DISCOVERED THAT IT WAS A MUCH NICER PLACE. So I stayed. It is my EXPERIENCE, not my speculation, that Chinese women are much nicer to spend time with. Better conversation. No underlying tensions. No latent contempt or disparagement. The women actually like men as people, and enjoy their company, with or without sex. I had no idea that this would be the case before I got into a situation which put me into regular contact with them. I grant your point that there are bad and good people everywhere, and I'm not saying that North American women are "bad." I'm saying that I wouldn't be tempted to have a serious relationship with one again because of the mismatch in our outlooks and expectations. No blame, just no compatability. Prior to my experiences with Chinese women, I just assumed that all male/female relationships were plagued with weird problems, an experience confirmed by many of my male friends.

  246. Jared

    A lot of interesting comments here. Interesting to see how some women here are getting so defensive. How long has it been since books and articles started publishing "Where have all the good men gone" and "All men are pigs", did you ladies defend men or did you shake your furious fists. Just because "some" of you ladies do not act this way, doesn't mean society or the majority of the female population do not. Bottom line is both genders have their problems. Its society that is the real problem. American women seek it all. They want to be independent and strong, equal or better to a man. Yet often when it suits them best, they will retract back to being the protected class or play the victim. 1)Feminists do not fight for equality. They fight for women's rights, and only in certain areas. The biggest problem with feminism is it concentrates on only the "disadvantages" of being a women is and none of the "positives". It actually does the exact opposite for men. Concentration on men who passed the "glass ceiling" and landed themselves a CEO position. Yet in reality, most men are on the bottom. 2)Women receive 1/3 the incarceration rate for the same crime committed. Often women are not even charged at all. 3)As men drop out of college, Women receive far more government grants, even though they make up the majority of students. Women receive grants for studying a major dominated by men, however, men do not receive grants for majors dominated by women such as nursing, one of the nations highest paying degree's. 4)Child custody and divorce laws are extremely biased. Often in court we view women as "nurturing and better for child development"......wait a second ladies, I thought we were equal.... oh I guess not when it benefits you. Men are ripped away from their children and forced to pay up to half of their checks to their ex-wives making it impossible to start a new life. 5) Men pay more into social security and taxes while receiving less government aid. 6) Women receive far more health aid than men, even though more men suffer from chronic disease. Ever see a blue ribbon? 7)Misandry is widely accepted. Ever see a shirt, "Boys do it better than girls" or "Beat the girls"...."Man Power"..... No... of course not. However the same cannot be said for girls. If a child starts off with hatred or contempt for the opposite gender then how do you think they will act as an adult? Shouldn't we be working as a team instead of competing against each other. 8) Men are seen as potential rapists and child molesters, meanwhile the women who commit statutory rape get off with misdemeanors and probation. Per capita more women sleep with underage persons. More women commit verbal abuse. More women commit abuse of an animal. 9) Feminists are the ultimate manipulators. Many are very well educated, especially in areas of statistics. Often feminists will manipulate statistics to their favor, such as the women make 75% to a mans dollar myth. However often media with feminist agenda will leave out categories of work where women make more than men. They also do not take in account for hours worked. 10)Women have an unknown hatred of men. They will spout out reasons such as, because "its a mans world", and "men oppressed women for centuries". However, when asked why they cannot come up with a logical reason. Misandry seems to be a in thing. Why in the world would any man from absolutely anywhere marry an American women? I for one would love real equality, and I would love a women who felt the same. Women deserve all the benefits of being a man, respect, and love. However, I have never met one who wants the responsibilities.

  247. Phil

    Cariana Said: "To the men here complaining about North American women, does the women in your live fall in that category as well, your mothers, sisters,grandmothers aunts daughters???" Sadly the answer is yes...............Except Grandma, she's old school. And they are too brainwashed to even know it. They could read this blog and think it's some one else being described. Certainly not them of course.

  248. Edward

    @All the hate coming from the men over here If a woman said anything like what you were saying but about men, how would you feel? Everyone has an opinion right, and that's fine. I'm just thinking of my mother and all the female relatives I have and cherish, who are American, and how wonderful they are. Cool though guys, say all this stuff to your mums, see what she says.

  249. Bernie

    @A _Lady Dear Lady, I am impressed by your candid comments. You've explained very well the same sort of emotional tension and turmoil that I've felt as a man when I've engaged many American women in conversation. As I stated in my early post back in July, I've sensed the emotion, by many American women, that I'm interrupting their day or that I'm on a thirty second timer when trying to engage in polite conversation with a woman I just met. After having spent an extended period of time in SE Asia, I noticed the complete lack of this tension between men and women that I routinely find in Western countries like the US. I think you explained very well the cause of this. An inherent mistrust of men due to feminism and the belief that men are, if not the enemy, definitely the primary competitors of women. The irony is, most women are much more competitive with each other then they are with men. Outside of the US, I believe this is well understood by women. I believe that most women in Asia, for example, take men for who they are both good and bad and completely separate it from the roles of what it means to be a woman. There simply is a complete lack of pretext that women are trying, in anyway to fulfill the roles of men. In fact they fully expect men to be bread winners, protect the family, and do the hard labor. It's revealing to hear how American Feminism has set up this unnecessary dichotomy between love and power. I say unnecessary because the vast majority of men, don't want to compete or have a power struggle with the women in their lives. Most decent men simply want to love their wives. So if their is indeed a power struggle, it's one sided and I think it's safe to conclude that Feminism is the culprit. If you've ever seen a good marriage during your life time, the one thing you'll notice that's missing is a struggle between love and power. A guy who truly loves his wife isn't a tyrant who expects his wife to manage all of the chores while he watches TV and asks her to bring him a beer. That's the stereotype Feminism has painted in the minds of Western born women and if that is at the forefront of women's mind every time a eligible man walks past her then that explains the awkward tension men feel around American women. It's being transmitted subconsciously and very effectively. The irony of Feminism is that it has disarmed women by taking away their Femininity. That's unfortunate because femininity, as any man will tell you, is such a powerful emotional and irresistible force. We men simply melt in the presence of feminine women. Power, prestige and independence, is simply not an aphrodisiac to most men. We'd just as soon marry the cashier at a department store over a female Corporate Executive if the cashier has the personality, playfulness and especially femininity that is lacking with the Executive. Feminism has erroneously taught our Western women that power and independence should be as important to women as they are to men. Someone forgot to send the memo to us guys because we've never believed that and never will. We want our girls back. We want women that we can cherish just as we cherish our daughters when they are small. I wish I could convey to you how powerful releasing yourself and just being a real feminine women is to a man. I know it is nearly impossible, but I'll try to explain it anyway. Femininity is a way of being. It is what radiates from women who are completely happy with themselves. Women who love every aspect of being a real girl and never worry about what the guys are doing, are irresistible to men. I suspect it is the same effect that most women experience with the confident, masculine, alpha males. I don't knock women for feeling this way toward powerful, successful, confident men. Women feel this way because of complex primal instincts. The same goes for men and our primal instinct to care for, cherish and love feminine ladies who are happy being 100 percent girls and minus masculine competitive traits. American feminism has robbed many women of this natural state and, in my opinion, caused unnecessary unhappiness and misunderstanding. Women outside of American culture haven't been as effected by this and are therefore more appealing to men who just want to be with a real woman.

  250. rt66hobo

    Lol phil..same here, but grandma included. Being slightly 'disabled' forced me to catch on a bit earlier. But about all the guys here all wanting relationships really astound me, when most guys just want to run around. http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_single_young_men.html Less than 20% of guys 18-40 in the west, including westernized nations like Japan, are looking for a mate.

  251. Tom

    @Edward: That's exactly what the women have been doing for the last 40 years. And that's why the men are turning off. It gets old. I'll say it to any women that asks.

  252. Mike Smith

    Hey Everyone! I am not ashamed to admit I looked for this blog because I needed some guidance for my current situation. I've been married to my wife for ten years with two beautiful children.Though I don't think it's necessary to generalize about weight and sexual preference/frequency etc. there is alot of truth to the negative perception of Women in North America- I believe it's true and its not their fault. I'm not old by the way, im only mid 30's! NA women's sense of entitlement is unreal, specifically how they should be treated. Family is lost here in North America. Like, by just getting up in the morning, women should be bonused out or rewarded. Traditional and average household duties, once performed by women are shared now, but, now women have to be recognized on a daily basis, for tiding up a kitchen or putting kids to bed. I find any women's failures are ours, (divorce/alimony) and all of the achievements are theirs (keep the house). It's unreal- through marriage or divorce, you are attached to this unreasonable, irrational behavior. I recognize the material aspect s of my argument, and that's my point. NA Women of today are focused on Career, money and some limited family time before they need "me time" Never mind the fact that they are having kids in their 40's- as if that wasn't enough "me" time. The sad thing though- we are lost here in North America- we taught men to be women, and women to be men. We kind of confused the whole thing along the way. We have whimpy men who are scared to stand up for themselves, and women who will bully men into submission. And we have all the laws to protect women from it getting out of hand. (Im not talking violence here. I'm saying she will take you to the cleaners). You have men doing everything; traditional and not, and women feeling insecure because they are feeling guilty about not being what they want to be and in fact should be. As a result, the divorce rate shoots through the roof. I find that NA women today are lazy- and love double standards. i.e. Still claim the part of the stay at home mom even though they work- and have full support from dads who really do care. The funny part about it all is, feminism has helped men more then it has women. It made Men realize how awesome it is to be a parent, and left NA women with a VOID in their life. One they try to fill with irrational behavior, and more hours in the office. Id never marry NA women again, shed have to be a hard working country girl. Dumb as a doorknob with no ambition but family - and im hot!

  253. knight rider 2012

    Interesting comments. Im noticing something here which we might all be missing. Could it be that what is happening now is a result of past lives and generations. Mike Smith mentioned ' we taught men to be women, and women to be men.' I think this is a reaction to Men in prior generations being abusive and women just taking it. Posibility... However, I think its gotten out of control and has simply become an over correction for what happened in the past. I think NA Men need to focus on what we have learned and also at the same time be more manly, At the same time NA women need to focus on what they have learned and at the same time be more womanly. However I dont know if that will happen because people are just too busy to recognize there is an issue going on and neither side is willing to do anything about it. Are we doomed to have this pattern continue, MAYBE, if people here in NA dont recognize it as an issue and do something about it. If denial continues it will never get fixed or will simply continue to degenerate.

  254. rt66hobo

    Knight, most guys nowadays are bucking the ol system, and the major problem is they are unorganized. Many of the guys hire strippers and escorts off the net and feminists groups are out in major force trying to shut everything down [craigslist and backpage for example]. If they do not wish to become slaves, then they need to start organizing and start fighting back.

  255. Mike Smith

    rt66hobo, I agree with half your argument if you are saying guys are bucking the ol system, in that they still abide by good familial standards, like in the old days. Work hard, feed family, AND a more updated version of a dad- which is play a role in raising your children- not just throwing a baseball around every once in a while and patting their heads "good throw!" on a sunday afternoon. Im certainly no Sunday afternoon dad! Raising children is in fact something we enjoy....but as far as the disorganized part of your argument- I dont get your vibe. In fact, most spoiled NA women are slobs- if you want to use disorganized in its purest definition. NA women look really good outside the house, but to what expense? Homes are a mess, I see it all the time. Clothes everywhere, make up crap, dirty laundry and dishes, etc. Alienation of their men, and straight out abusive foul mouthed political garbage they use against their men to get their way. Its a subculture of embarrassment. Any man who is soliciting prostitution has nothing to do with organization. (Though its not cool in my books). Prostitution is a right both men and women have- to be one or to use one. Not your place to judge. We are talking facts here. The argument of men being pigs is really getting old, which is really what you are saying here.

  256. rt66hobo

    Mike, no, family values are not for everyone. 80% of guys in their 20s are involved in what is often referred to as the 'marriage strike.' And 'hook-ups' have replaced dating. But that again is for some, and many just go to girlie bars or use online ads and the like. Those are not prostitutes by the way, as they don't sell sex.

  257. knight rider 2012

    I think the old system is still a good system if people play by the rules and try to improve on it. However people arent playing by the rules anymore because women ARE simply too protected now a days and feel they can get away with it. I do think that needs to be adjusted because it is becoming unequal protection under the law. Organize? Men are too afraid to because they are afraid of being singled out and possibly never getting another partner and just dont want to deal with the consequences of doing that even if they are intending something positive. I dont like to bully anyone but I also dont want to be bullied. I think this is more about equality and good treatment. Thats all.

  258. Anonymous

    Interesting discussion. I completely agree that, for the most part Western Women are out of control. I, a Western white male, have dated Western Women and I unfortunately I have found that we are simply not compatible. Just even from the first date, I feel like there is so much pressure when I go on a date with a white Western girl. The dates are more like interrogations. Its like the girls are playing good cop bad cop. We are talking and finally we are laughing and having a good time when the girl ruins the fun by throwing out some ridiculous question or accusation. She'll say, "haha your so smooth, bet you do this with all the girls." At which point we go from 6 flags of fun to no flags of fun. It's like some kind of test to see my composure, test my character, and find out if I am a man whore? Well I'll keep it together and move past it and then we're having fun again when she throws out the next jab. A date with a white woman is like a boxing sparring match. A relationship with a white woman is like a prize fight with Mike Tyson. I feel like white women want to dominate the the men. Like all the feminism has gone to their head. Like biologically they desire the strong, aggressive man that can defend them, give them good sex, and strong offspring. But they have been socially wired to want the gentle, feminized man (like Edward from the vampire show, who by the way just got cheated on). I see this in the schools, its now popular for boys to be thin. When I was going to school being an athlete, being strong was cool. Now the boys, I kid you not, are dieting. My cousin rides a bike every day to burn calories and consumes no more than 1500 calories to stay thin. He is super scrawny but that's whats cool now. Its cool because girls (the women of tomorrow) define it that way. The guys have to meet their standards to be accepted. The power has shifted completely to the girls. But that makes the girls unhappy because in a primal way they want to be led in some ways by the man. They want the man to take them out, to plan the date, to be the person who asks them out to begin with. They want a man to tastefully show that is sexually attracted to them, they want a man to lead. That's the biology, primal part of the brain that wants this. This is what makes for an exciting exchange between a man and a woman. But today the women want to be completely in control of everything. They do not let a man be man. They do not let the man be the protector, (a man's natural role evolved from thousands of years of evolution) even in the smallest way by opening the door. From walking on the outside of the curb. "I can do it myself." You sure can, but you make us men feel useless. If I can't do what I was designed by nature to do, even symbolically, then you do not make me feel like a man. By taking over the my functions you become the man and I don't want to date a man. I understand that white western women live in a society where me being able to physically defend them is essential useless and they do not need me to make money or provide for them because they can do it themselves. I understand you want to be totally in control even when it comes to sex. So given this, what use do I have to you other than essentially the role of a dildo (granted a very nice dildo lol). I have not date white women in 4 years and I am in a relationship with a latin girl that I am going to marry very soon. We had a discussion a couple days ago about dating and the topic of white women came up. It reminded me of the horrors I endured and I just wanted to check out other people's opinions. Looks like we are all in concurrence. Othere than the white women. So I challenge you white western women, think about it. You are 50% genetics, 50% nurture. I propose that your nurture is letting you down. There are ways to be an assertive woman but it does not mean that you have to have control 100% of the time. You have to let the man have 50% of the control. An important distinction is that in any given moment only one person can be in control. So it is impossible for two people to be 50% respectively in a given moment. So let your man have 100% control 50% of the time. Do it with small things to begin with, things that really don't even matter to you. Let him feel 50% of the time like he is the boss. And when you are successful, when the guy looks at you with disbelief that you are actually letting him be a man, you will see that he becomes more confident. And that will make you like him even more and he will like you even more. Then when you have an awesome relationship you can spread the word to other white women. That way us western men can some day stop outsourcing our relationships like we are outsourcing our jobs.

  259. rt66hobo

    Um, knight a good system for some, but what of those left out of it? Marriage was basically women's interest from the start...men roam and women nest. And organize just to vote against those promote 'no sex until marriage' or 'public morals' and other nonsense and they can't control how someone votes.

  260. Unknown Person

    I myself am a Canadian female and reading this, I can see what people are coming from. I find this quite sad how accurate this is for the majority of North American girls. Taking a outsider`s point of view, it`s really sad how it is like this.

  261. BrianJ

    Google “American women are easy” and this blog post pops right up. What's up with that? Anyway, I never visited Japan or Asia and I doubt I ever will. Maybe it's because I'm not crazy about earthquakes, tsunamis, or giant size hornets so I don't know enough to comment on that part of the world. However, I have lived in central Europe for 4 years and let me tell ya, I can say without a doubt the women are the most intoxicatingly beautiful creatures on the planet. In addition, they are also very domesticated and feminine which make them top notch for long term relationship & marriage material prospects. The downside? If you want a ONS they aren't as easy to sleep with unlike Canadian/American women. In North America, a woman will gladly spread her legs for a homeless guy if he can make her laugh. In central Europe however, she is much more discriminate with her womanly wares. When I read comments from guys who say they “hate American women” or “American women suck” it makes me wonder if they are loser milquetoasty manginas who can't get laid. Newsflash:North America is a poon paradise, and iIf you can't bed the easiest women on the planet, what makes you think you stand a chance with women overseas? They will eat you alive. Especially if they sense you have no idea how to entice them. They can come across as stoic and aloof and will look through you as if invisible. You think your male friends are going to help you? Dream on. They will see you as a serious threat to their svelte women and know you bring much more to the table (ie. confidence, charisma, a different sense of humour, and affluence) than they ever could. For me, the women were curious and treated me something as a novelty so getting hot women for girlfriends in central Europe wasn't hard. I notice when North American women came over, they virtually crashed and burned. At my place of business, we had two western women: One from Portland and the other from Toronto who packed it in after 8 months because--according to them—they were lonely and their personal lives sucked. No guy wanted to date them. The reasons are obvious for those with eyes to see. When they left for their respected countries, we (men & women) could not help but to poke fun at them for their outrageous expectations and beliefs. Here are 20 things wrong with Canadian and American women. If you are a woman, read at your own risk. They're fat They cut their hair short They\re overly opinionated They don't know how to cook They think being a housewife is a form of slavery They have standards way beyond their level of attractiveness They think being funny, sarcastic and witty is a quality men love They spend more time and effort building a career than landing a quality man They think being strong, independent and career driven makes them a good catch They sport tattoos They should spend more time looking attractive than focus on building their intelligence They watch too much tv They enjoy getting drunk and lack decorum They care more about maintaining a career than a good home They read magazines like Cosmo when it comes to pleasing men They are divorce prone They love wearing flip flops and consider it fashion footwear They rarely wear high heels They like shows like Sexy and the City and reality tv They swear too much

  262. Aussie

    I'm an Australian male and I definitely see this in Australian women. For all those women labeling the men above as misogynists and losers, what do you care? They're removing themselves from the dating pool anyway? If you do care, then it's because you know deep down that there's an element of truth to it, but you don't want to admit it. When women stood up and said something was wrong with the system, men listened and have arguably changed their ways. Now men are opting out (because to stand up would be to be negatively labelled) and you're calling them names rather than looking at what you (and the law) is doing to put men off. One only has to look as far as politics where any questioning of our female Prime Minister is silenced with accusations of misogyny by a PM who brought into effect the Australian equivalent of VAWA laws and changed the definition of rape to be that men are assumed under all circumstances to be the perpetrator (two drunk people have sex, the man is legally guilty of rape if the woman reports it as such). My first girlfriend dumped me because she thought she was too good for me because she went to a private high school and I went to a public one. Not such a big shock, except that I was 24 when we went out and I had since gotten an engineering degree (she never attended university) and was earning double her salary when we went out! My second girlfriend was Russian and she was, for the most part, a treat to be with. What was interesting was all the Australian women who came out of the woodwork to belittle me for my "mail-order girlfriend", when they had completely ignored me before I was earning good money! That relationship didn't endure the long distance aspect, but it was interesting to see the interest from local women had in me dry up once I was available again. Seems like they only want someone when they're already taken... So for all of these US/Canadian/Australian women who are seeing this "man-drought", why aren't you asking the government/media to ask men why they don't want to commit? You presumably want families, yet believe that the fault lies solely with the men. Men want what they want and women want what they want, you can't blame a man for NOT wanting a woman who he's being constantly questioned, belittled and talked down to and who might legally run off with your children, house and money. I know a guy who paid for his house THREE TIMES! He bought it in his early 20s by himself, got married in his late 20s, divorced at 50 and had to "buy out" his ex's half of the house he owned before the marriage. I don't fault that too much because they'd been married for about 20 years. The third time he had to buy it he wasn't even married, he just lived with a woman for four years and, when she left she was "entitled" to half his assets because they'd been classified as a "defacto" couple (which can happen in Australia in as little as 12 months of living together!). The only way he could have been safe in that situation was if he'd had a cohabitation agreement (the legal equivalent to a pre-nup) in place when she moved in, but why should a contract like that even be required in this modern day and age when women are supposed to be our equals and are fully capable of making a living? The poor guy then had to keep working into his 70s to pay the mortgage for a THIRD time on a house he'd lived in most his life and had already paid off twice. So his last "divorce" netted his ex about $400k for four years of cohabitation, not a bad rate of return since she wasn't paying rent or board for that whole time. Men usually do risk assessments on their actions and weigh up risk to reward, with marriage looking less and less appealing given the possible rewards on offer. So women can choose to either write off the men who aren't marrying locals as wimps, losers and misogynists for not "manning up" and continue on with their lives in blissful ignorance whilst forever lamenting "there aren't any good men", or they can take a good look at themselves, and probably more importantly the system in general, to try to work out what has made marrying them so unappealing, hopefully before it's too late.

  263. Ben F.

    Very interesting article and discussion. I have traveled extensively and although I am an American citizen, I was born outside the U.S. (Latin America). I have dated both Americans and foreign women and have found that although there are clearly cultural differences, the primary differences in women are simply in personalities and temperaments. As I thought about your write up on the perception of American women outside the U.S. I had an interesting thought about us Latin men who are stereotypically considered "womanizers". Although that could be partially attributed to the way the culture is, from my experience in living in Russia and Germany, there is little difference in that men "pursue women" no matter where they are. Still one cannot help but be placed in a stereotype. I have even been told that from first meeting me, that the assumption is that I am a womaniser (and this is considering that I am a business professional and wear suits). So is it appearance? Or cultural stereotype? I have found that because people have these general perceptions, they make assumptions and at times act on it. There are many of these perceptions about different cultures, countries or to specific types of people everywhere, it's human to have in mind and figure out what people are. In a way it eases us to know a person before we even know them, it is sort of like a built in safety mechanism (good or bad). The stereo type of American women as it exists is probably because women in the U.S. generally have more equality than what is given in other countries. Women can say no more often than they can in other countries. This liberty is widely perceived as "an American woman will not be controlled" in the same manner as perhaps an eastern European or Asian woman. Perhaps controlled is not the best word to use, submissive could be a better term. Are Latin men better lovers and womanizers? Probably not more than the stereotype of American women being self-centered, demanding, spoiled and materialistic.

  264. knight rider 2012

    Ben F I think you make a good point. A lot of times it simply does end up being prejudice which is not always good, like you said it can be a false sense of protection. I do think that it all depends on how you are treated man. Not just about freedom. I do think freedom is great but if its not handled the right way it might end up hurting someone and thereby having negative consequences. Again its about being treated well and good under most circumstances. I think that is better then simply treated better only when necessary or if things are performed correctly. I know this may sound like a coca cola commercial but its true. We all strive for a better life and a better world. Its just simply better. Better treatment, I dont think there should be a substitute for both man or woman.

  265. Eric Lecarde

    This is Female Privilege Female privilege is having no accountability for any wrongdoings as long as you can blame them on the opposite sex. Female privilege is having your health concerns much more catered to, simply because you're a woman, while the opposite sex, despite having similar health concerns, can just wait. Female privilege is being able to wear clothes traditionally associated with the opposite sex without getting beaten up or ostracized. Female privilege is being able to easily dismiss a person’s argument on the basis of gender (whether through “privilege”, sexuality, penis size, etc.) with the support of others. If the reverse were to occur, that person would be silenced and deemed a sexist. Female privilege is to be as education- and career-driven as desired, but still have the doors opened for and dates paid for by a male date. Female privilege is scorning a man for cheating on a woman, but if the reverse were to occur, it would be justified if the man “failed to make her happy”. Female privilege is not being called an unemployed loser if you decide to be a homemaker. Female privilege is getting the first seat on a lifeboat when the ship starts to sink. Female privilege is being able to declare your own sex superior without being called “sexist”. Female privilege is having more reproductive rights than men. Female privilege is being allowed around children without being seen as a potential pedophile. Female privilege is being allowed to ask for help without being told to “suck it up”, “stop being selfish”, “check your privilege”. Female privilege is being able to hurt a man while others assume he must have done something to deserve it or that it’s all in good fun “you go girl!! girl power!!”. Female privilege is being able to not have a job without being seen as a “useless deadbeat”. Female privilege is being sentenced to less jail time than male counterparts for committing the same crime. Female privilege is having exclusive access to domestic violence shelters despite the fact that domestic violence is initiated almost equally by both genders These are the privilege American Women, No Westernize Women are spoil with

  266. Susanna

    So many bitter men on here, it's pretty crazy! I find it hilarious how all these men complain about American women being fat and lazy and whatnot - I can just see them scratching their fat beer bellies and burping up their disgusting, greasy takeaway meal while clicking through their internet porn collection because no sane woman would date such chauvinist pigs! I am a European woman and I can assure you that feminism and gender equality is just as widespread and well-accepted here as in Northern America, so please, stay away from my continent when you look for your little subservient "feminine" housewife. A word on those wonderful, "feminine", open-minded and oh so friendly Thai, Korean, Japanese, etc. women: most of them look for a visa and a man who pays for their designer goods. It is a well-known fact that designer items are especially priced by Asian women, and make no mistake about who gets the bill for them. Same with Eastern European girls. At my university in Australia, Russian and Polish girls were especially attracted to those rich Saudi-Arabian men who came to Oz do their MBA. They would compare the gifts they got from the men and google to see how much they cost to determine whether it would be good to continue dating. Yes, these girls looked skinny and dressed in lovely, flowery dresses but they were disgustingly materialistic in a way that I have never seen in Western women (except a few rotten apples that exist everywhere). You are welcome to those women of course and I am sure they will be only too happy to let you live out your little alpha male provider fantasy. Just make sure to buy them those Gucci and Louis Vuitton bags on a regular basis or they will throw little hissy fits, stop having sex with you as punishment and badmouth you behind your back. In the meantime, I will happily stay with my British husband who thinks it is rather marvellous to be an active dad and share the housework 50/50 while we both work on our careers. He is crap at cooking so I do that every day, but in turn he does the ironing because I will only ruin his shirts. God bless feminism and God bless the new men who aren't afraid to embrace the new women!

  267. Joe American

    American women have a lot of toxic influences. Mainstream media is one of them, and mainstream media is totally blind to this. A small percentage of guys are aware of better alternatives and take them. The answer to "Are North American women that bad?" For the typical female deniers of this as an issue are in far worse shape than they think. They practice many universally undesirable behaviors and are clueless about it.

  268. knight rider 2012

    Hey Susanna I think you are just in denial about many issues. You did make some valid points but until you take a good hard look at the real issue like most guys are saying then you are just in denial. I bet a lot of the guys on here are not bitter losers they just see the flip side of the coin.

  269. Reality

    Oh Susanna, Your diatribe is the classic hate/envy propaganda used against Asian women from insecure, overweight, cigarette smoking, too much of the wrong kind of makeup, stinky, hairy, lazy, self entitled tramp stamp sporting western hags. Your nonsense couldn't befurtherr from the truth but saying it somehow makes you feel Ok about your utter lack of ability to understand why you're so miserable and unfulfilled.

  270. rt66hobo

    Really now Susanna...bitter? I wonder about some of the guys posting in here about family values since most guys avoid marriage to begin with. You're somewhat correct in that it's a western trend and not just in N America, but it's most women that are bitter and not the men, They bitter because of very low marriage rates and baby trap fiasco. Most of the angry guys you refer to are the now obese once upon a time bad boys that got screwed in divorce court.

  271. Phil

    Oh Susanna, don't you cry for me for I'm coming back from Asia with a virgin on my knee!! Arggg!

  272. Tom

    Oh, my, Susanna: Just a trifle strident and vitriolic aren't you? You really do trot out all the stereotypes. My friends and I, none of us fat or with beer bellies, all of us employed and working at good jobs, married or in long-term relationships with Chinese women, suffer from none of the activities and difficulties you detail in your rant. Our ladies are educated, intelligent, sensible, usually employed or in business ventures, and generally not at all impressed with expensive designer goods. In fact, they generally tell their partners NOT to waste money on these things. Don't know who you're hanging out with, but they don't match with my experience. Yep, I think you're feeling just a bit threatened. Greasy takeaway? Nope....both my wife and I cook. She cooks excellent Chinese food, and I do the Western. Looking for a visa? Nope. She's Chinese, but already has Canadian citizenship. Looking through porn sites? Get a grip, name-caller! How childish you are! Alpha male fantasy? Bullshit. Hissy fits? Never seen it. In fact, it is your nastiness and name calling, indicating what your basic beliefs about us males are, that comprise the very reason we don't want anything to do with you and your kind anymore. You said it yourself, you can find trash people everywhere. Apparently the ones you're spending time with are of that kind. Birds of a feather, and all that ........

  273. Connor

    Hi I am an American guy (born and raised) and I just want to give my personal dating experiences, I'm almost 22. I am a full time junior double majoring in economics and finance. I run an investment club, and I just quit my job as a loan officer to start my own hedge fund with a business partner. I am in shape, tall, and I admit it nerdy. I'm not trying to brag, I'm just wanting you to understand I'm not some unattractive loser deadbeat. My dating experiences here have been horrible; class, church, the library, the club, the bar, it always ends up the same for me, pain. Cheating, not going out with me again because I didn't want sex on the first date (seriously), lying, manipulating, expecting me to shower them with expensive gifts and lingerie, getting mad at me for giving to charity, lying to me about a kid, then getting mad at me for not accepting it, flirting with other guys in front of me, then getting mad at me if I even DARE mention anything. I'm not saying there aren't some great American women, but they are all seem to pair up pretty young and I feel like there isn't a single one here for me to find. Because honestly I just want to get married and be a great husband and father more than anything, even being rich. I want a sweet intelligent caring wife (American or not) who will love me for me and be a great caring mother. I want to share everything I am working towards with her and experience the world with her, I just don't want her to take it for granted. I get dates, but the girls here don't like my personality. Believe it or not I've heard I'm too much of a gentleman, I'm too smart, I look too nice (wtf does that even mean?). I don't tell them how much money I make or how much earning potential my hedge fund has (I want someone who loves me, the one time I did she went from kinda dating me to wanting to be exclusive, same girl who said starving kids in Africa weren't her problem), I won't disqualify women because they are simply American, but there is a lot of truth about what is said about American women. I think finding a woman over seas would probably be the best bet I have to finding what I want, and not a submissive sex toy. I honestly plan on sharing everything 50/50 with my wife and giving her the option of working or not working, whatever makes her feel happy and cared for. I just want to find the potential wife and mother to my children I can't seem to find here and it's a shame I think. Maybe someday...

  274. Mike

    I think there is something to the tendency to focus on American/Canadian women rather than both women and men. America was the first to go big on women's liberation in the 1960s which resulted in lots more women in the workforce. Men in all countries have been encouraged to be go getters, confident, aggressive, etc. But nowadays women in America (not sure about Canada) are groomed in pretty much the same way that men are. So you have American women with largely the same personalities as American men. Did American men change that much? No, not really. It's just that American women are no longer supportive, cooperative, demure, etc. They are competing with men domestically and professionally. I'd guess that American women should be the wealthiest women in the world bar none. But alas, men around the world want to be supported by their mates, and American women simply don't have that much support to give relative to other countries where women have retained their traditional characteristics. Mind you, I don't care if geographers don't consider Mexico part of North America, it is clearly part of the norther American continent which to me means it's part of North America. So maybe we shouldn't label all North American women as being detrimental to marital success.

  275. Sierra

    Umm just to set a tone: i am 17 years old never had a boyfriend never had sex and a proud american female. If these gentlemen who frequently post messages on here are going to inquire about my beauty or weight i will provide it to you. I am 165 pounds i wear a triple d bra and nice hips and nicely shaped butt if i do say so myself and i rate myself a 5/10 on the beauty scale :) I must admit i started crying when i read these posts. I guess i cant hypocricy well. I started flirting with a very handsome muscular teenager of my age and soon after my too generous friends warned me off of him. He started a bet/ rumor sort of thing that he was going to take my virginity within a month...that was kind of him wasnt it? My great grandfather(a handsome american male) repeatedly raped his three daughters and when my great grandmother found out she called the cops and sent him to jail. Those three girls grew up and had more girls and those girld had children and here i am! The only problem i guess you creative critics would call it is th fact my female family members are raised to never depend on a male. We were raised to protect ourselves and selfpreservate. You gentlemen or woman who wish to comment on this go ahead and tear me apart but just know that there is always a reason. To continue i must also add that i am considerably intimidating. Like any other girl or boy who has reached my age i have gone through the whole crush and heartbreak faze. I guess the heartbreak was partially my fault because i am a girl who since a young age have been quite litiral and have not been skilled in the arts of flirtation lol! I dont have high standards i guess all i want is to fall in love which i have no idea how to. Once i find my other half i will hopefully stay with him for the rest of my life. I do umderstand where the sterotype of the typical " princess" mentality comes from but i have observed through my aunts and mothers and other female adult figures lives woman in america nowadays generally support themselves it has become some men who dont pay and become entitled. I am surroumded by men who expect to be provided for call me a child who has no idea what life is really like, but i have learned from experience imcluding my father who i only see once a year due to his dedication flaws and other excuses he flies my way and my uncle who blames his exwife for his current pathetic life style. He beats his pets constantly pushes unneeded blame onto others including me under special circumstances. Some critics might claim that i have not slf evaluation my personality and that i am not getting to the core of the problem let me make a list for you : •I love myself- yes i love myself once from the crush i had he called me fat and ugly when i told him i liked him so thats why he didnt want to date me we were in 6th grade. He was quite the shakespearean very poetic with his word choice. If the guy i love doesnt love me back my love needs to be directed somewhere right? So why not be directee at myself i see my self love as self appreciation its a great feeling to love oneself. Maybe some of those bitter comment makes can find a way to love themselves •i am judgemental and blunt- you cannot tell me by ready my summary and description of my vody weight and such that you as a person didnt already start off by judgeing me? Female or male so be it. I find that the only way to get someones full attention or respect is by always telling them the truth. I qk not speaking about those rude people who have no boumdaries but if someone asks my opinion i will give it freely. I am money hungry i have found that my single mother who is raising two teenagers is having the most horrible of times because of money or the lack thereof. When i graduated i have decided to atted as much college as possible and enter the business world because the money people make there is outstandng. I have decided that i qm going to provide financially for my handicapped mother and my youmger brother for the rest of my life with or without a husband. I am materiallistic- i am a teenage girl who envies the other young girls who have new clothes every season. I still have a coat from four ywars ago because i cant ask. My mother for such money. But i must admit i do so wish to be those girls/ gys who always have new things and i guess that in itself is materiallistic. I am shallow because i cant hold a full conversation with a dimwit who cannot speak proper english and can only speak in ebonics. I quickly judge someones intelligence and altogether avoid slang or ebonic speakers because i am too shallow to take the time and find out why those people are the why they are. I am fiercely loyal- i am defiantely biased towards all of my friends i am bull headed with my opinion sometimes but i do listen and never ever betray a friends trust aquiantance or best friend. Mqybe sometimes im too loyal qnd cannot see the wrong that my friends have hence commited unto another person. I am selfish- i get jealous when my friends dont include me in on a little secret i dont like sharing my bestfriend with her other friends. Its a personality quirk of mine that i am getting over. My best friend knows how i am and she always laughs which forces me to start laughing at how silly i was acting of course left out a whole bunch of other personality quirks like me making a crazy face at a friend before i tickle them to death bu i believe you have received the gist With all that said and done i guess i can complete this journey by saying that with all of my pro lems i still love myself.

  276. Sierra

    I am no way trying to conivce those young virtuous men who prefer foreign womanover american woman i just want ted to point out that all the prejudice and biased arguments needto be halted and self evaluated. Toanswer the main topic of this whole article no... American woman ae not All crazy g

  277. Sierra

    American woman are not all crazy and selfish and as bad as some make them out to be just as not all american men are rapists horrible fathers or any such thing. Take a minute and soul search because at least I know how it feels to be blanketed and judged without a second thought as a female. It seems it is not only american Woman who do this blanketing and such but also american men. I hope i dont grow up to be so onesided like you gentlemen who are scorning american woman seem to be.

  278. knight rider 2012

    Hello Sierra, You seem like a very nice girl actually and I wish you all the success you deserve. I agree with you not all North American women are like that. I stated earlier there still are great North American women. But there is an underlying issue that might be getting a little blown up with these posts and exagerated to an extreme. However you did mention that there is a "princess" mentality that even you admit know where it comes from. Thats sort of what Im referring to. Women should be treated with respect and treated well but its when that starts to get abused and quite frankly misused is when things go sideways and thats what I think some of the guys here are talking about. I agree its not good to make blanket accusations but if a lot of guys are saying something similar maybe there is more to the story. You know what they say usually where there is smoke there is fire.

  279. John

    My 2 cents. From what I have read, it seems that in general, American guys overseas get a lot more attention from the opposite sex than American girls do. We can come up with as many theories as we want on why this is the case, but the fact remains that it is true. This fact, all by itself, says something about the demand of American girls on the world scale. Note: It may very well be (as has been hinted numerous times) that everyone is just intimidated by how perfect American girls are. Or it might not be ;)

  280. Ivan

    I have to agree about the entitlement that american women got with no good personality and shallow taste, in addition to that they go have sex with many men and expect love in the end. Why should I ever respect such a woman? I am really sad that my parents have dragged me into this country with such a problem with its women and it is very hard to go back to a country I came from too, since I have been lacking all the cultural education and moral standards. I only hope that perhaps some of the american women may realize that what really counts for a guy is that they show their strong care and warm heartiness, I know that not all american women out there are just plain users of men and their money or fame, at least some of them got to have some sort of a heart. I hope.

  281. Em

    American women are the first women in the world who are receiving almost complete human rights. While women are still payed much less then men on average at least we have the right to divorce an abusive husband and abort a rape child. We are no longer slaves of marriage like most of the worlds women. Men should not be looking for a submissive person to be their maid. No human should have to be a weak submissive slave like that. What is gross is not American women, the gross part is the idealization of a happy woman sex slave. God Bless America.

  282. Jenny

    Not sure what history books you guys are reading but America was NOT the first country to implement women's right. First country to give women the right to vote was, for instance, actually New Zealand. The Suffragette movement started in England. Women all over Europe have full rights, it's not just American women. Geez, Americans (men and women, mind you) - they always think their country is the best in the world when the rest of the world just laughs in their face. As to all these men who applaud themselves on their amazing desirability: it's pretty easy to find a demure, poor Thai or far Eastern European woman who will pretend she lurves you to bits for who you are (as long as you buy them a nice piece of jewelry), but try dating a Western European or heck, an Arabic woman and you will find they'll probably pass, and gladly, since they don't enjoy dealing with uneducated, fat rednecks who speak in loud, nasal American voices and complain about the next McDonald's being too far away. Oh, you think I am stereotyping? Yeah, well, you might want to re-read your own hateful posts about "Western" women if you dare to complain. Face it, most sane women wouldn't want to date any of you guys because you come across as complete and utter losers. You also strike me as very naive if you believe that South East Asian women aren't playing you just as bad, if not worse, than any materialistic American woman. If you look up "designer hauls" on youtube you will see that 90% of the girls doing them are Asian, clutching their latest Louis Vuitton or Chanel purse that they got from their "fiance".

  283. Steven

    Lol @ Jenny..I've heard your type crowing before and you wouldnt know a good relationship if it was handed to you on a silver platter. But here I'll throw my two cent out there. For all the guys out there going overseas..I wish I could join you. I'm well educated. I have a great job. Have my own place. Have a nice car that is paid for. I am respectful towards others. I love animals, kids, etc..etc.. unfortunately, all of these are negative qualities to american women. And because of that, I spend my life alone. When I was 22 I fell head over heels for the typical american single mother. Loved her child as well. But, guess what, she turned her nose up at me and went for a druggie instead. SHE PUT HER CHILD IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT. Why? ..Why? You see, american women only go for whats in "style" at the time..right now, it seems like whats in style is a) you have to be a "country" boy or b) you have to act like a thug/be black or c) you have to be a metrosexual pretty much. I am none of those above, therefore (according to Jenny and many others) I am a "loser". This "loser" fought for his country (4 years in the Navy). But does that matter? Nope, not when you can have the next eminem wannabe mooching off of you. You "women" love drama so damn much. Fine, have it. I would love to check out of this country for good. Perhaps someday I will.

  284. knight rider 2012

    Em and Jenny....my answer to you is Steven.....also since when is treating someone kindly and well is being subservient or being a slave??? It tells me that maybe your mind is starting at the wrong place....

  285. M

    "“…Western women have ridiculous material expectations of their men and expect to be put on a pedestal at all times (instead of being equitable partners). Bringing little to the sexless & boring relationship other than expensive bathroom faucets, obesity, credit card debt and demands to work harder to afford undeserved luxuries to fit in with their consumer culture.” Not only in Japan, China but also a lot of Europe where most of the women don't have all those EFFIN ridiculous expectations especially when it comes to men's EFFIN HEIGHT!!! GAWD men have EFFIN HAD it, JUST EFFIN HAD IT WITH THESE WOMEN (ESPECIALLY SHORT WOMEN 5'0 TO LIKE 5'5") THAT OUTRIGHT EFFIN DEMAND HER "GUY" BE FUCKING MINIMUM 6' OR ABOVE OR THESE WOMEN THROW G*D*A*N TEMPER TANTRUMS LIKE EFFIN THREE YEAR OLD'S. Then these women constantly say NO to every man cause they have this "PRINCESS" "Perfect" NON EXISTENT guy syndrome. Seriously don't women GET IT, men have HAD IT with women's complete BS ridiculous material expectations. Then these women can't figure out why the eff your always going home all alone or JUST get the COMPLETE LOOSERS, EFFIN D-Bags that ONLY want to EFF you, could care LESS about you and then the minute they are done they are out the door so fast.

  286. M

    Also I think a lot of American women have this completely twisted imagination that they made up from childhood that think there must some effin how must be this GQ of a guy, if they say no to literally every single guy, possibly go on dates and (expects to know if he is dating material or marriage material within like the first 3 or 5 minutes of the date). So many single women have this "glass" house la la picture that is SO NOT REALITY as in they think that her "guy" will have this "perfect" job (could never be laid off), makes this ginormous amount of money, can just always go "somewhere" any spur of the moment, has a "jet" blah blah blah. YEAH SMACK YOURSELVES LADIES THAT THINK LIKE THIS!!!! Reality is what you see with your brother's, sisters that have gotten married before you is like, IT'S CALLED REAL EFFIN LIFE. You have arguments, you figure out your arguments, you LOVE EACH OTHER, you come home from work, maybe once, twice a year you go on a vacation (flying to somewhere) vacation, maybe a dozen times you go on vacation within driving distance, each other helps out with "household" chores (cooking, yard work, kids, etc). THAT'S BASIC LIFE!!!

  287. Oh So True

    there are just too many LOW LIFE LOSER WOMEN out there today, and with the attitude problem that many of them have, they are not worth meeting at all.

  288. Devi

    I'm trying to take all this in.....People can really do on forever about this particular topic, yes? The feminist agenda really has done a number here in the states, I admit. Men are afraid to marry now (locally that is). Men who are scorned here in the U.S. (divorced, taken for everything they have) find a much younger bride in Asia. Besides that I am a little weirded out by the age difference, I can oddly enough sympathize. We are looking for happiness. My mother is a man-hater (dnt judge so harshly, she's had her heart torn to bits many o' times, with such scenerios unspeakable), I am till this day resisting her ideals, or much of society's ideas on what place men have in the family and the community. I'm using God's word. As well, and this is from the consumerist agenda (those fiends), women here do expect a lot of money to be spent on them during casual dating, without feeling that just perhaps, they might owe the man that they are dating something. I've only traveled abroad as a wee lil' lass, I don't necessarily remember how the folks in Europe compare to here, I'm saying what I've seen as I've grown. There are many great aspects of this country, but perhaps individualism as done much damage. I'm married and going to boot camp in April (my husband is going to be a full time student) and I'm praying to God that our roles as a man and as a woman will still be intact, and they we will never be one of those D-word statistics. If I babbled, my apologies. My plan to was get a few thoughts out, read some that follows and then never again read up on these sorts of topics, since much of it pierces my heart.

  289. dave

    Miss Em - Let us see. A happy, submissive sex slave. I guess that means a woman who will be my best friend, my lover, someone not holding up a notebook to see what is wrong with me ( nor would I hold a book on her), someone who can enjoy sex with me without using it as a weapon and someone who wants to spend the rest of her life with me, sharing the UPS and the DOWNS. Yeah, ,Miss EM, that does sound horribly, horribly submissive and slavelike. How disgusting!

  290. Wendy

    Dave, If you are talking about an equal relationship then there is nothing bad about what you said. If your partner is talking care of you and your emothional and physical needs, then men need to do the same for their partners. There is massive confusion in this country on the roles of men and women. Men are fighting and trying to hold on the a "Leave It To Beaver" life when women are saying no more. I personally am sick and tired of having to work all day long and then come home from work just to have to start another full time job of taking care of a grown man. I have no idea what it is like to come home and have a man make me dinner after I have had a hard day at work. I am so busy walking on egg shells making sure I dont upset the man's delicate fragile ego. For what? What is so fabulous about any man that a woman has to give up her entire life to be the built in maid, cook, mother to children and to the grown man, laundress? American men are very confused about the role change. It is disgusting how they let themselves go and get these big pot bellies but demand that we ladies must stay in shape or we get replaced by a younger 20 something. I am in my 40's and have no need for a man that behaves like a spoiled childish high school boy. Because that is what he is. A boy. But in truth, if a person is behaving bad to you, you need to look in the mirror at your self and see where you have contributed to this mess. Example: My ex demanded I take care of his needs, emotionally, intimately, physically. All the things that people should be taking care of in their partners. But he would not take care of me the way he demanded I take care of him. So after a few years of this crap, I stopped and started to treat him the way he treated me. All of a sudden, I am this bitch and a mean person. Something was wrong with me. I simply told him when he decides he wants to take care of me the way he wants me to take care of him, the so called unloving behavior will stop. But from that day forward I will mirror his behavior towards me back at him. He hated it. As you may have noticed, he is an ex. And he was offended that I gained 15 pounds while I was having respitory issues for a 2 year period. But He was offended when I mentioned he needs to go back to the gym and lose the 50 pounds he gained. I lost my 15 pounds. He still has his 50. American men and women need to re-define the roles of couples. I live in a very expensive state. It takes 2 incomes to make a comfortable living and be able to buy a home in a decent and safe place. If I have to work all day long at a job, I do not want to come home to a lazy jerk that expects me to wait on his every need and get nothing in return. I, personally, do not want a boy pretending to be a grown man as a partner. Because he is not a partner. He is a spoiled child that has not grown up yet. If men in america want women to treat them with respect and love and kindness, they must treat the women the same way. Then you can have everything you want.

  291. GrahamCordin

    I'm welcoming my retirement because I'll be able to travel more and meet women in other lands. But that is a long time from now. I do meet some women in So. Ca. ,but dating is very difficult. I'm in my late forties, so most women I meet have kids from a previous relationship. Both sexes my age have baggage. The chances are very slim to meet a female who's attractive and has no children. I don't think feminism has helped the American family situation. I find that many attractive women here have unreal expectations. There is so much narcissism on the internet and in real life with both sexes, too. I don't expect to meet a model, but it's hard enough to find someone who is normal; pleasant personality, somewhat humble,and attractive, minimal skeletons in the closet, etc. America will go on, but strong families are what makes a society prosper. Women are not completely to blame. It's really materialism that is the problem. Dating is very depressing in So. Ca. There aren't that many places to meet the opposite sex if you're not into clubs or drinking. I've done that, and it's lame. I hate drinking. My brother and his wife fight constantly. His marriage won't last. It's not all of his wife's fault though. But what I find is that American women are often not very approachable and can be socially inept. They often don't know what to do when someone from the opposite sex is nice or polite to them. Picking up on girls is sort of a lost art. My last girlfriend couldn't believe it when I told her that I probably had been rejected by girls a million times before I met her. Of course I told her that much later in the relationship. But this happens to men all over America. I do find that girls from other states, outside Ca. are more receptive and won't play you as much.

  292. knight rider 2012

    Wendy, I can totally see where you are coming from. Yes BOTH people should contribute to marriage life as equally as possible. I think the main issue about some of the posts here are on the opposite side of the spectrum. Its women that are doing the opposite of what you are doing. Meaning not contributing and just doing whatever they want and if they don't get their way......well you know how that goes. I think most people are addressing mostly dating situations too.

  293. rt66hobo

    Girls like Wendy are quickly heading towards fringe status in a few years. Dating and relationships are not the norm nowadays.

  294. Drellbeezer

    I don't have time to read everything here, at least not in one sitting (I stopped about 1/3rd of the way down), but here is my comment anyway. I was born in 1965, in PA, and have only visited Canada (not because I don't want to go elsewhere, I just can't afford it!) Americans, in general, are shallow - both men and women. That doesn't equate with hateful, as I can see a lot of the anger being generated here, just very negative (and improvable, with recognition). A problem, I think, is Americans have lost there way by focusing on material things in almost every aspect - chasing the phony so-called 'American dream'. When this all happened, I'm not sure, but it was certainly not as awful as it has become since the 70s (and it was somewhat bad then too). As I see it, America would be better off if both males and females trusted and looked to serve each other, not themselves. Sound boring? Old fashioned? Our country is crumbling under the weight of self-righteous selfishness. If we don't shed this weight, we won't have a civilization to be anything in. I couldn't help noticing rt66hobos comment, as it was just above mine: rt, you speak of the current trend (and a vacuous, soul-less one it is, too). The truth is, that is what is 'in' now, but it might not be in 20 or 30 years. It could get better, or, it could get worse (although I don't even want to contemplate what 'worse' could mean in this context). Wait and see, things that seem the 'norm' today, become yesterday's quaint 'fringe'... By the way, I am an American, and I know nothing, and I'm pretty shallow, too. But I try my best to recognize these qualities for what they are: big negatives, and to curb them. Thanks for reading, Drellbeezer

  295. Ella

    Hello! I am a 23 year old American woman. I actually agree with what you men are saying about us. When I was 19-21 I was exactly what you describe. I was a wreck. Luckily, I changed. I lost my first love because I was so horrible. It was a wakeup call to me. I started to see the bullshit that us girls are taught from a very young age. My mothers and grandmothers all used to sit around the table trash talking men. I was taught to view boys as disgusting perverts. Something inside of me knew that this thinking was wrong, but then it became a way to protect myself from men who could hurt a woman so deeply. My mother also chose men who abused her. I watched it happen. I saw the bruises. I grew up believing that men never really can love one women. Sooner or later, he will leave her for someone younger or prettier. So in my late teens, men became my enemy. I vowed to never fully love a man. I would never let myself be that vulnerable. Boys, please understand something. American media has seriously screwed up this country. Girls here feel this constant pressure to be this image of perfection for you guys. We all think you are only interested in us looking like supermodels. Mostly we act like bitches to keep you guys at a certain distance. We are afraid that if we let go and just love you, that eventually you will leave us. We think you are what the media says you are. We are all brainwashed to believe we will never be good enough to be loved by you. So we resent you all. When really, we should resent the media. Instead we consume it. Why is it surprising that we have no self esteem when we are told everyday through magazines, porn, fashion, that we are not beautiful, sexy or desirable enough. It is a game we cannot win. We constantly have makeup products shoved in our faces. We are reduced to the size of our breasts. We are then told to not care what anyone thinks of us. When really, we care WAY more than necessary. Porn tells women that if you are a slut, you will be loved. We think that sex equals love. Most sluts I know are sad sad girls. They are broken-hearted damaged women. Eventually that sadness turns to hatred, for herself and you. Then you have some women who feel that becoming successful is when she will be good enough. They are terrified of having children because that have seen what happened to their mothers. They would rather be single moms than risk the perceived eventual abandonment from you. At least her work will never make fun of her body or cheat on her. Some women have the mindset that they should totally destroy men. This is because they have been in some way destroyed by them. I think American women are not evil, but they are sad and hurting. They are poisoned in their minds. I understand for you boys, that maybe we are not worth the emotional trouble. I changed when I stopped looking at the media. I threw away all my fashion magazines, and I stopped hanging out with many of my skanky friends. I started being alone. I started sifting through all the lies in my head, that were keeping me in a prison of my insecurity. Strangely enough, I met a European man who saw some good in me. I confess, I tried very hard at times to be as mean as I could. I made him cry a few times because of things I would say. Yet he stayed. I was sure he would leave. I was sure that I could not be loved. Yet he stayed. Today we are married. I almost worship this man. It brings me to tears to describe him. His kindness and loyalty and dedication totally changed my heart towards men. I want nothing more now than to make him happy. I live in Europe now. Boys, on a final note, I just want to apologize on behalf of all American women. Many of us have been abused and neglected by our fathers. We totally are lost at how to see men. We have mostly only experienced the bad. It astounds us when we encounter a good, and nice man. It is almost uncomfortable. We feel unworthy. I know it is alot to ask, and maybe it isnt worth it, but if you find a woman, who you see something good in, hold on and keep loving her. Eventually you will shatter her distorted image of all men. Then you will have a loving, adoring woman. But you have to be LOYAL. On the other hand, some women need to be called out on their bullshit. No matter how damaged a person is, it is never ok to treat someone horribly. I learned my lesson, and I will never go back to being that way. I love men, and I love myself. :)

  296. rt66hobo

    Drellbeezer said ...you speak of the current trend (and a vacuous, soul-less one it is, too). The truth is, that is what is ‘in’ now, but it might not be in 20 or 30 years. It could get better, or, it could get worse (although I don’t even want to contemplate what ‘worse’ could mean in this context). Wait and see, things that seem the ‘norm’ today, become yesterday’s quaint ‘fringe’… And so? Things change, and why is that so bad? Marriage isn't for everyone, and the only people I see trying to push it on everyone are the ones desiring children and suffering from crab pot mentality. And yea, 30 years from now, dating robots from a dating service might an option and they'll do more than just kiss on the first date..

  297. Absolutely Very True

    the way that women have changed today, i would certainly say so. and now that there are so many low life loser women out there, they are making it worse for us straight men looking to meet a good one today. why are there so many mean women today?, that is a hard question to answer. i never seen so many bad women in my life, up until now. i am looking to meet a good real good honest one myself, especially one that doesn't cheat and can be very faithful to just only one man. the average woman today needs at least seven different boyfriends, that is one for each day of the week. i certainly have to say that women years ago were a lot more EDUCATED than the ones that are out there now, that is for sure.

  298. Drellbeezer

    To rt66hobo, I wasn't endorsing 'marriage' (I never even mentioned it), just trust and (more or less) selflessness. Those two qualities are what I see lacking in our culture. They have been becoming replaced by distrust and narcissism ad nauseum. It may not be your experience, but mine has been when others are given trust by me, the same is extended back to me; when I care for another, it is almost always reciprocated (or at least appreciated), not a reason for them to take advantage of my kindness. (One form of kindness particularly absent is listening to one another - we simply don't do it enough.) Conversely, in my opinion, the opposites hold true: distrust begets distrust; unkindness begets more unkindness. Trust and kindness are essential to a civilization that hopes to continue. Without them, we are back to barbarism, etc. That's what I meant. Do you disagree?

  299. rt66hobo

    Drel i was responding to your response about my response to Wendy about marriage, dating and relationships and how they are nearing obsolescence. It's obvious there are some here that have kids, or desire them, suffer from crab pot mentality and want to drag everyone else down with them.

  300. Kris Kemp

    You have to skip the American women. Most are dumb, lazy, overweight, boring, and demanding. I've traveled and I do not date American women for this reason. Why? Because they are entitled without a reason to be. I currently live in New York City and the women here are disappointing as well. Most of attitude, lack charm, lack intelligence, and don't know how to dress. Anyone defending American women usually falls into these categories: 1. Have not traveled outside the United States 2. They've only dated American women 3. They are themselves an American woman and feel defensive. Instead of getting defensive, if you are an American woman, try behaving more like a woman outside the United States by being feminine, reading books, treating a man nicely, dressing well, staying in shape.

  301. verghese

    American women are very materialistic, especially the ones in the age group of 15-35.Most of them have personality disorders.

  302. Drellbeezer

    Ella on January 17 at 5:31 am sounds happy, and that's because she decided to think (and feel) outside of her box. She decided to try what many Americans (men and women) have sworn off. She does not sound like a 'crab pot', just happy. Again, to rt66hobo - Yes, I hadn't read the entry you were responding to, but the stance you were at least voicing (if not possibly endorsing) in your response amounts to "lets all just forget getting to know one another [which is the point in dating someone], and about caring for one another [the essence of having a relationship, if it is a good one], and just use one another as fuck buddies and masturbation robots, and to hell with how they (the potential fb's and mr's) feel about it;" which can be boiled down to "all that matters is me, myself and I - everyone else is just something to be used". Why not just stay at home and indulge in internet porn if other people are just "things for [my/your/whoever's] use"? To look at dating and having relationships as things passé is, in effect, saying that getting to know anyone beyond a superficial depth is not worth the time—and that is basically how shallowness (of people) is defined. Those who have never experienced having real relationships are, I assure you, missing out big-time without even knowing it. No wonder, to my ears, they sound like the 'crab pots'. Just one final thing, and then I think I've said all I have to say (adding more wouldn't really be 'adding more'): a relationship should always be a friendship first. A sexual relationship, that isn't a part of a friendship, is really two people using each other to masturbate. Fine. But excluding relationships forever is like, well, vowing never to travel. Thanks! Drel

  303. growls

    As a hard working man with a lived in face the slightly wrong side of average , I have to ask why does it bother you if I dont date American women ? They dont look at me to start with , Im not bitter about it its just a fact of life.

  304. North American women = slovenly evil? - SocialPhobiaWorld.com

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  305. rt66hobo

    Drel, 'relationships' are not for everyone, only fools deal in absolutes.

  306. Donna

    have been living in this country since 1984.I'm dual citizen and dual graduated dentist.Worked and still working with a lot of American women.All above comments are true.American princesses look at their life via their fake boobs,fakely wet veginas fakely lubricated by KY,most of them are highly unedereducated with a highly developed selfless team, highly jadgimental about everything around them but not themselfs..All above mentioned "qualities" of American women are very true and seem to be consequences of entire system of their home education and way they have been raised by their mother s who aviousley have been representing same values that have been trading from generation to generation...and men are not even better...the whole concept of relationship in this country is based on money benefits and has nothing to do with any connections...loving means fucking in this society ... And women in this society seem to not learning anything ...still remain air headedf dolls playing their role to get a rich man and scrud him after is all committed...send them to boot camps,teach them how to get their own money to treat men like shit...and go from there....they deserve to be treated they are being treated.........but men .. values in this society is a different subject....

  307. Bill

    i have noticed myself how women have certainly changed over the years, and not for the good. much more women nowadays are much more nastier to talk too, and they will just tell me not to bother them. so how in the world can a good straight man like me meet a good woman today, especially finding one that doesn't cheat? most of them now seem to have a very serious attitude problem as well.

  308. Drellbeezer

    With the idea being that some things are better expressed by songs; some of the social criticisms that follow (that I apply to no particular sex) can be found in the song "This Damn Nation" by Actionslacks (c. 2004-5, not exactly sure from when): "I can hear this country cryin' Three hundred million tears For some Super Bowl commercial That's gonna banish all its fears My TV spews fake emotions So saccharine I could choke They call this entertainment This drama is a joke "Yeah, this damn nation is a sentimental fool Who's weepin' while there's work to do Yeah, this damn nation, aw, ya know I do adore I'm just lookin' for a little more "We got greeting-card emotion 'Cause we can't express ourselves I won't tell you to your face But I'll call you on my cell We got bumper sticker potshots And we hide behind our screens You can say anything you want Just don't talk to me "Yeah, this damn nation is a spoiled little child Selfish, unrepentant, and wild Yeah, this damn nation, oh, ya know I do adore I'm just lookin' for a little more "Yeah, this damnation, this indictment is a prayer And in my mind no flags are burned But "American popular culture," my friend Is a contradiction in terms "We got twelve-year-olds conditioned Sex and violence every day We got kids thinkin' they're freaks 'Cause they're not getting laid And don't talk about the airwaves 'Cause I can't hold back the tears All the bands that could save your life You will never hear "Yeah, this damn nation, it leaves me so uninspired Disappointed, sad, and tired Yeah, this damn nation, oh, ya know I do adore I'm just lookin' for a little more "Yeah, this damnation, this indictment is a prayer And my country, 'tis of thee I sing And American popular culture can't be dead 'Cause there is no such thing" Hobo, do you really think that 'excluding relationships forever' (my own quote), a position many are adopting lately, and that I reject, is not an "absolute" position? I sense you are reading way more into what I'm saying than exists, and missing the point(s) of it as well. Possibly, I am doing the same to what you are saying. I'm not absolutist; I think it's fine for people to do whatever they please, for the most part (provided parties are mutually consenting, etc). My objection was to your apparent belief that human nature is static, starting with the generation that thinks of relationships as things of a bygone age. When you wrote 'Girls like Wendy are quickly heading towards fringe status in a few years. Dating and relationships are not the norm nowadays,' you construed the future and the past as the same thing; with the implication being that what is happening 'nowadays' is also where were headed 'in a few years'. My point was, in general, trends in societies tend change, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse, and there is nothing wrong in making limited judgments about these changes. I don't have any objection to what any given individual's particular stances are. I can choose to avoid them, or engage with them; befriend them, or not befriend them. Stepping aside from 'relationships' for a moment for some rather uncontroversial analogies: where I live, there is a lot more violence than had occurred in the past, which most would judge to be a change for the worse (and maybe in the future violence will lessen - a good thing); on the other hand, again where I live, more gardens and trees have been planted than ever before - the city is a lot greener and less polluted than just 20 years ago. This, for most people, is a good thing (but if decisions of consequence are made to tear down city gardens in favor of erecting polluting industries without halt, as was the case in the late 1800's - this would be a bad thing for those people of our city who happen to breath, i.e. everyone). To both examples I have given value judgments. My observation about people getting more and more superficial is, by intention, a generalization; and does not speak to any individual's choices: "superficiality" and "narcissism' have always existed as possible character traits in people. However, when being superficiality and narcissism become very generalized into something like a movement, as I think has happened in the last few decades in North America, it is, I think, without question bad. I have no particular criticism of the possibility some individuals want nothing to do with (having relationships with) other people (that is, dealing with them on only a superficial basis); nor does it bother me that some people see the world only as it originates from them (patent narcissism). What I care about is that huge amounts of people seem to have, for the moment, the same conformist superficial narcissistic attitude; and that has definite 'bad' consequences for civilization. As individuals, we're all just statistical blips, so what any individual does mostly has consequences for just them and those immediately around them; societal trends, on the other hand (good, bad, or even neutral ones, by whomever's doing the judging) have deeper consequences for you, me, and everyone. Drel

  309. WorldTraveler

    Canadian citizen and world traveler here. The article is bang on, all the facts are true. I'm a Canadian citizen, but born in one of the European countries. I'm the world traveler, thus have seen a lot and experienced a lot, and have some facts to compare. USA and Canada are an absolute Hell on Earth in terms of dating or having a stable relationship! Ladies there are only and entirely after money, more money and even more money after that. If a male does not make at least 5000$ US after tax per month, does not own a nice condo or a big house and 2 cars (one car is obviously destined to be given to the lady right after the first get together) he's seen as an unworthy person, a sore loser. If a male dares to stand up and be counted, dares to have his own opinion, not influenced by a loads of baloney on CBC or CTV, dares to be not politically correct and respects himself, then he's a definite NO-NO right from the start for the overwhelming majority of Canadian or American females. An American or Canadian lady would gladly go on a date with an ugly abusive freak, who's loaded with money, you can see it happening all along in all the bars, night clubs, restaurants and lounges all over Canada or USA. I've lived in Canada for over 6+ years and traveled extensively all over the USA, I'm not in Canada any longer, and those days were like a never ending nightmare.... I'm a professional swimmer, tall, tanned, sporty, educated, professional SCUBA diving, swimming, snorkeling instructor, adventure tour guide with several foreign languages, but I have never as in NEVER had any dates with women in Canada or the USA. They don't even look at you if you don't drive a new BMW or Corvette and shower them with money every single day. Personal qualities, health, fitness level, respect, understanding, support and attention from a male do not and never will matter for an American or Canadian lady. It's only about money. And nothing else matters. I'm in the Caribbean right now, in Mexico, and let me tell you about the behavioural pattern of Canadian and American females here. They usually come to the beach alone or with another female, and take a very defensive approach, just laying down with a book or a music player, and pretending that the world around them does not exist. They never swim, never play beach volleyball or other beach games, they just read their books, smoke one after another, drink some beer and completely ignore the world around them! They are the Snow Queens and the rest of the world is a one big zero to them. On the other hand I happen sometimes to see an attractive American or a Canadian female with some kind of a low life pot smoking male bum here, all tattooed, with an unwashed braided hair, looking like he's just got out of a trash bin.... I still fail to understand the reason why.. I know a lot of males from around the world, working here with sports and travel, and let me tell you-they all share exactly the same opinion about American and Canadian ladies! Women in North America are: Totally selfish, self-centered, with a sense of entitlement, with a ME ME ME syndrome, Snow Queens, who only care about money and more money and consider themselves to be above the rest! There is a simple solution to the problem though. I went over to Russia and got married to an amazing Russian lady. I'll be permanently moving to Russia this summer 2013. Every self respecting North American male should completely avoid dating in America and just ignore North American ladies, and take several trips over Europe, be it Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Czech republic, Sweden, Germany, Hungary or Bulgaria. Get yourself a European wife or girlfriend! It's a different world out there. The ratio of males to attractive females is 1 to 4, yes, it is indeed 1 to 4. Beautiful females are everywhere, on the street, in the cafes, subway, buses, street cars, everywhere! They know style, they have education, they can carry on a meaningful conversation without asking how much you make in a month and what car you drive, they are amazingly sexy and take good care of themselves! You hardly see ANY fatties on the streets of Europe!!! Just forget about the North American ladies and realize, that there is indeed a world of opportunities outside of North America, worth to be explored!!

  310. GrahamCordin

    World Traveler, Yep, you're right. I'm forty six years old. I'm feeling the need to get the hell out of So. Ca. Unlike you though, I'm not much of a traveler. For me it's sort of a pain in the ass. I must change my attitude. I think my attitude has always been a backlash against all of those people (especially chicks) who say they love traveling. To hear this over and over from females gets really irritating, hence my rebellion. But you're right about N. American girls and meeting them outside of N. America. I am an avid surfer, and have been doing it for thirty five years. This is one of few things in So. Ca. that brings me joy. Few women here bring anybody joy. And yes, It is difficult to stand up against the shit T.V. and politically correct culture. I don't own a television. This does not sit well with female media junkies. They think I'm weird. That's fine with me. A huge population of girls here are over weight and have attitudes. There aren't many places to meet girls here because they aren't very receptive. Drinking and hanging out in bars is really lame and unhealthy. A complete waste of time and money. I am commited to staying here because of my job. My life is passing me by. But I'll have to start traveling again. I know that I'm missing out. Thank you for such a positive note on traveling and meeting girls outside the U.S.A.

  311. WorldTraveler

    Thanks for some nice words Graham:-) I've been traveling extensively since I was 15, so I've seen a little bit and dare to compare. You don't have to change your atitude or anything. You just have to put aside some time in your life to travel the world. It's that simple!! You don't need to stay away from SoCal for 6 months, but can get on a trip of 2-3 weeks easily. Women is SoCal are raised with Hollywood on their minds, or some porno set in San Fernando valley. They have to think, look and act like all those stars, they have to imitate stars hoping one day to become one. I don't have a TV myself, internet is totally enough for me. I'm not home most of the time anyway. Don't be afraid to differ, don't be afraid to stand up and be counted, don't be afraid to go against the mainstream! Too bad that modern society values booze, drugs, smoke and bar/disco until 6 am over sports, traveling, getting educated and becoming a personality. You have your job in SoCal and it's great!! It means you have a stable income!!! How about you create a profile on one of a numerous dating sites for Eastern European ladies and get in touch with some?:-) You next step would be a trip over there for 1 month to get to know them all and probably to select the ONE you'd like the most. Trust me-it is a different universe there!!! Every American and Canadian male should make a trip to Eastern Europe just to realize what hellhole USA and Canada are in terms of dating if compared to Russia, Ukraine etc... And your final step would be bringing your lady over to sunny California! And suddenly you have it all 3 in 1: your job, your surf and your lady! Just don't wait too long... time is flying... time is ticking away... with every minute and every hour... Good luck to you!

  312. GrahamCordin

    World Traveler, I'm taking your advice. I'm going to E. Europe this summer. I'm checking out those websites that you mentioned. Ca. is dire. Thanks again. -G

  313. European Man

    I am a European man living in the United States and if some body were to introduce a American women, that can’t properly present her self abroad for the same reason US diplomats that work for the US State Department (US federal government) can, I will tell her that she is a piece of crap. She would be worth less than a piece of shit outside the United States. I told an American man that, ninety percent of American women can not, be trusted because that is what an Italian woman told me. Most US born women who raised by a European born mother can be equally be trusted as there European born mother. An Italian man was aware of this since the late 1960s (the time of the Beatles) because his parents explained to him almost 45 years ago. That is what he told me. I told the same American man that you should only marry American women that can properly present them selves abroad for the same reason US Diplomats that work for the US State Department (US federal government) can. He has one son from a previous marriage, that his ex wife abandoned with him. His ex wife American women was a horrible mother. He asked my why I knew his second wife an American women is such a good mother to his son from a previous marriage. I told him, that a European (German) women told me that his second American wife would be allowed to work unsupervised with small children in Europe (example Belgium and Germany). It is very difficult to find an American woman that can, but there are some that can. It is very easy for a European (German) women to determine that. His wife is 22 years old (born in 1990) and has two small permanent tattoos on her body that can be easily hidden. I also told him that she would raise his American baby new born daughter in the same close nit family structure of the 1950’s properly under official Italian rules. This means that his American baby new born daughter should also be able to properly present her self abroad for the same reason US diplomats that work for the US State Department (US federal government) can when she becomes an adult. His wife has a very good relationship with her biological father, who has been married to her American mother for more than 20 years. The point of the story is that the American wife (born in 1990) of my American friend and his American daughter (born in 2012), has the skills to live and work in Europe (would be liked in Belgium) for the same reason that American diplomats that work for the American Embassy in Brussels can. The reason why I know that is because a European woman told me so. The same European mother also told her son and me that, 90 percent of American women can not be trusted and can not live in Europe with there behavior and mentality and are a piece of crap. This is 100 percent because of the way she was raised by her mother when she was a infant/toddler/child. You as a person have no control over how you are raised by your parents when you are an infant/toddler/child. This means that if an American citizen is not raised the same way as Barrack Obama/Michelle Obama (same mentality) by your parents when you are an infants/toddlers/child than you cannot properly present your self abroad and do not have the skills to live and work outside the United States, live and work in Europe, became a pilot/flight attendants on a transatlantic airplane (example, American Airlines) flight, and get a job at the US State Department. You as a person have no control over how you are raised by your parents when you are an infant/toddler/child.

  314. European Man

    An American (US born) woman with a Italian born mother told me that 90 percent of Australian and American women are a piece of crap. She told me that Australian women are as bad as American women. Some people would say that Australian women are worse than American women, but I can’t verify this. She became a naturalized Australian citizen before she moved back to the United States. She has a better relationship with her mother than most American women have and is better behaved than most American women. She also has a very good relationship with her American father because her Italian mother is still married to her American father. This is very common among American woman who are raised by European mothers (this is more common than you think). An Italian born mother told me that, ninety percent of American women can not be trusted (can not properly present them selves abroad). Ninety percent of European women (for example, Belgian, Italian and Swedish) can be trusted and properly present them selves abroad. An Italian man was aware of this since the late 1960s (the time of the Beatles) because his parents explained to him almost 45 years ago. That is what he told me. Most US born women who are raised by a European born mother can be equally be trusted as their European born mother and should have the skills to live in Europe. They generally have a better relationship with their European born mother and grand mother, and are better behaved than most American women and men who are raised by American mothers. The first and sometimes second generation should see no American influence. Amanda Leigh "Mandy" Moore (born April 10, 1984) is a primarily example of this, with her English-born maternal grandmother. They can normally be equally trusted as their European born mother and grand mother. That is what the same Italian born women told me.

  315. European Man

    What an American man who is married to a Dutch woman in the United States told me. I have had American man explain this to me who was married to a Dutch woman for more than 30 years. He always refers to his US born and raised daughter as a European not an American and hates American women. He has a better relationship with his daughter than most Americans have and can thank his Dutch wife for that. His Dutch wife’s three European brothers married American women and all three American women divorced them, interfered with there parental rights moved out of state and made them pay child support in the corrupt US family court system. The only way to get child support in the USA is to drive the fathers out there children’s lives and that is why most American women do this. He explained to his American son & me a European man that if you do not want to deal with those ugly divorces and participate in Glenn Sacks Internet Archive Wayback Machine version director of (Fathers & Families Internet Archive Wayback Machine version) and his Have Anti-Father Family Court Policies Led to a Men’s Marriage Strike Internet Archive Wayback Machine version, than you must stay away from American women and stick to European women. His daughter married an Italian national and his grand son that he sees every day is raised Italian. It is very rare to find an Italian/European man marry an American women. This is how it usually goes if an American man were to marry a European woman. This is because a European woman raises her American children the same way she was raised and make sure they comply with the official Euro requirement. The same American man who was raised by Dutch/European parents confirms that this story is usually correct. Most girls who are born in the United States that have a European born mother have a better relationship with there European mother and are better behaved than most girls who have an American mother and have the skills to live in Europe as easily as there European mother can. They can usually be equally be trusted as their European born mother. This is why it is very common to find European man marry US born women who are raised by European born mothers. This is because a European born mother raises her American daughter/son the same way she is raised. This is because European born mothers expects her American daughter/son to have the skills to live in Europe (be trusted), as easily as she can, and do not tolerate that they behave like Americans and have American mentality. She would expect the same for her grand children. Her daughter in this case married an Italian man. Her grand son is raised by an Italian born man and speaks Italian. The same American who was raised by European parents told me that if an American man has US born daughter/son with a European born mother he will generally have a better relationship with his daughter/son and they would generally better behaved than most American man who have a daughter/son with an American women. But if his daughter/son were to visit Europe, most people in Europe would think they are born in the Europe/Netherlands and behave like a European not American, even if they are born in the United States. They should also have the skills to live and work in Europe just like their European born mother and it should be impossible to tell that they are born in the United States other than the fact they speak English with an American accent. This would apply to male and female children, who are born and raised in the United States by European born mothers. The children of Tiger Woods are a primary example of this. The same American knows several American man that are married to European women that also find any American women a piece of crap that an average European considers a piece of crap and hate American women. It is very common to find American men that are married to European born women that hate American women. Many US born girls who are raised by a European born mothers have the same negative opinion of American women as their European born mother have. The same Americans says that it was very dumb for those three European men to marry American women. European man in the United States should only marry European women, and European women should only marry European man. The only problem is that it is very difficult to find European women in the United States. You have to go to Europe to find European women. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. Americans who are raised by European parents get some thing extra from our European parents 100 percent because of our upbringing that Americans who are raised by American parents do not get. That is that when we walk the streets in Europe every body thinks we are born in Europe we can behave like a typical European speak our parents native language (some only speak English) just as easily as our European parents can (still have European mentality) and it is impossible to tell that we are born in the United States and that we are Americans. It would appear that we are born in Europe not the United States even if we are born in the United States. When I visit Europe and speak English every body in Europe thinks I was born in the Netherlands, but I was born in the United States and have lived my entire live I the United States. My mother was born in the Netherlands. Eastern women who hate American women/men think that I was born in the Netherlands, and this is the only reason why they like me. This is 100 percent because of the way I is raised by my Dutch (the Netherlands) born mother when I was an infant/toddler/child. This applies to both male and female children/adults who are raised by Dutch (the Netherlands) born mothers. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. Americans who are raised by European parents get some thing extra from our European parents 100 percent because of our upbringing that Americans who are raised by American parents do not get. That is that when we walk the streets in Europe every body thinks we are born in Europe we can behave like a typical European speak our parents native language (some only speak English) just as easily as our European parents can (still have European mentality) and it is impossible to tell that we are born in the United States and that we are Americans. It would appear that we are born in Europe not the United States even if we are born in the United States. When I visit Germany and speak German every body in German thinks I was born in Germany, but I was born in the United States and have lived my entire live I the United States. My mother was born in Germany. Eastern women who hate American women/men think that I was born in Germany, and this is the only reason why they like me. This is 100 percent because of the way I is raised by my German born mother when I was an infant/toddler/child. This applies to both male and female children/adults who are raised by German born mothers. I'm an American Citizen but my parent's are European, I was born in America, but I was raised as I would be if I lived in Europe. So. You decide. Americans who are raised by European parents get some thing extra from our European parents 100 percent because of our upbringing that Americans who are raised by American parents do not get. That is that when we walk the streets in Europe every body thinks we are born in Europe we can behave like a typical European even if we only speak English just as easily as our European parents can (still have European mentality) and it is impossible to tell that we are born in the United States and that we are Americans. It would appear that we are born in Europe not the United States even if we are born in the United States. Eastern women who hate American women/men think that they were born in Greece, and this is the only reason why they like me. This is 100 percent because of the way they were raised by their European born parents/grand parents when they were an infant/toddler/child.

  316. dave

    I guess that our dads taught us when we were very, very young, to open doors for women, let them go first, pull out chairs,etc., not because women were inferior or weak, or anything like that, but because it was the "right", and gallant(?) thing to do. Something happened along the way, in the way that women have treated men for guys to think this way, Something happened.

  317. WorldTraveler

    Sure Graham!! Take a trip over to Europe, go to Russia, Ukraine, Poland! You gonna love it there. Sign on several European dating websites, talk to the ladies, get to know them. California is NOT dire. It's the people who make it bad, not the state itself! Calfornia will always remain beautiful with its ocean, mountains, deserts and sunsets into eternity! You KNOW what I'm talking about! It was a pleasure giving you some helpful information! Enjoy your time over in Eastern Europe!!

  318. rt66hobo

    European man really?? I haven't been to Europe yet, but have lurked on European forums often and they have similar complaints. The worst countries in Europe without a doubt would be the Scandinavian ones, as they are radfem enclaves trying to spread their totalitarianism everywhere else. And the I've also run into many female Aussies and Kiwis online, and yes, a large percentage are complete psychos, and seem even worse than most American ones. And Graham, Canada is dire? I've been to Canada, and I can say things are a lot better if you are just looking for sex. The only real thing that separates the WEST from the US is the that sale of sex is illegal in just about all but a few states and legal in most western nations.There is some promising technology just on the horizon that can rectify some of this. Though, I'm not sure that will help the Scandinavian countries, as most males there seem to simply bend over backwards whenever the females bring up some new complaint, which is often.

  319. WorldTraveler

    Right on, males are also to blame for the current state of things! A normal family is a constant wotk in progress of BOTH male and a female. But in the modern society every female simply expects a male to hand her everything on a silver plate with no objections whatsoever from a man.And if you object, if you dare to have your own opinion,to stand up and be counted, if you are not politically correct and mainstream, then you automatically become a sore loser! Males get desperate and give up after going sexless for 3-4-5 years and simply decide to settle with whoever comes first and gives them the least amount of daily BS. Things are better in Canada in terms of sex?? Well... I don't want to have sex with a girl, who looks like she's eternally pregnant with fat. I respect myself and I'm very demanding when it comes to me, to the way I think, the way I look and the way I act. Thus I expect my counterpart to be at least somewhat demanding to herself as well, and not just go with a flow and expect everyone lese around to accept her the way she is. Ain't gonna happen! It all starts with self-respect, for both males and females! It's better to be eternally single than to settle down with a person just for a sake of settling down and having a f..k buddy.

  320. rt66hobo

    WorldTraveler, better access to sex, if one is just looking for that. , since the sale of sex is legal in Canada but not stateside. Majority of males just look for sex, but the article is not just in regards to 'relationships,' it's also about everyday interactions in public or at work, etc. You'll often find many females power-tripping every chance they get.

  321. WorldTraveler

    True that, sale of sex is legal in Canada. Tons of sex ads in any free newspaper in Toronto, Calgary, Vnacouver etc. It's nothing bad in sex, but I never felt like I had to pay for it. I don't think it's possible to get and give pleasures when one has to pay for sex. I agree with many females power tripping whenever they can, but males should have enough courage and self esteem to have and protect their own points of view and opinions, and not just surrender. It's nothing wrong with standing up and be counted, with having own opinions, thoughts, actions. Both parts should be equal in a relationship or marriage, or it'll malfunction rather sooner than later. Too bad, it's not how it works in North America.

  322. GrahamCordin

    rt66hobo, I'm from California,not Canada. The trouble with Southern Cal is the elitist nature of females and the preocupation of buying and collecting material things. I am sure it's a little easier to meet chicks in Canada. The US is very narrow minded when it comes to nudity and sex. Very uptight. Americans are socially conservative and fiscally liberal. A very poor combination. People spend money and are difficult to get to know. Boring. It's time to travel.

  323. WorldTraveler

    Well, and who's to blame for that elitist female attitude??-) Yes, American males are to blame! They gave up their criteria and collectively decided to settle for whatever comes their way instead of daring to have own thoughts, criteria and standards!

  324. rt66hobo

    worldtraveler, umm, some are just simply control freaks. Melissa Farley and other nutjobs are putting outs loads of bs stats often tricking overworked policios into rubber-stamping laws to fix non-existent problems.

  325. WorldTraveler

    Control freaks? How can anyone control ME, if I don't want it?? I have no idea who Melissa Farley is and don't even want to find out. But there is NO way she can make ME to change MY mind and MY visions of life, people and values around me and in the whole world!! That's why I still insist, that MALES are also to blame for the existing situation! THEY gave up their values, self respect, visions of life, THEY lowered their standards and adjusted criteria, agreeing to settle with the first available option and then being scared to death to be alone again and be called a "loser" by the society. Being alone is NOT a "loser". But giving up, lowering standards and going for the lowest of the low just to be with someone IS indeed a "LOSER"!

  326. rt66hobo

    World, not attacking you or anyone else, just saying some women are worse that others. Melissa Farley is one of the world hopping radfems lobbying for biased laws everywhere. Just look er up, youtube has plenty. It's so bad now in some countries many guys are video recording their dates now. If it gets worse, record EVERY interaction, at work, lunch, etc.

  327. WorldTraveler

    No worries, Hobo:-) I'm used to people attacking me for my views, open mind, lack of political correctness and truth telling. OK, I looked her up (Melissa Farley) and still don't care what SHE thinks or does. There is NO way she can impact MY views, decisions and thoughts. To videorecord a date? Ain't gonna happen:-) I'm strong enough to stand up and be counted and to respect myself without the need to record every interaction on the street or during a date:-) Especially considering the fact that I'm happily married!:-) Then again: I insist that guys are also AT FAULT for all this happening! THEY lowered their standards, they allowed women to take command and control instead of a mutual development, they gave up and decided to settle for the lowest of the low!!! I've been labelled a "loser" many times by American and Canadian females for my political and life views, for my lifestyle without drugs, booze, clubs and cigarettes, for my travel, for my unwillingness to settle for the 1st available option!!! So what?? Now I'm happily married and never had any doubts that this was the RIGHT PATH to take, ignoring all those North American females and always looking for the person to evolve with TOGETHER! A family is a life long work in progress, whereas in North America it's a search for "Mr. Right and RIGHT NOW!"

  328. shelley

    sorry to hijack the communication , but all men and women here seem so damn immature - thank god i'm still not taken! personally some people need to grow up, get out of stepford and into the real world, and this goes for both genders! and for the record i'm a british mature student who's main priorities are getting the right qualifications so i can go to university , and i'm not the type to use sex as a weapon, personally i just feel sidelined, because i'm not bitchy of catty, not sexy, not slim, and not stupid! but i prefer being single because judging by most of the commentators, love is well and truly dead , unless everyone here starts getting out of nursery, growing up a LOT and sees beyond the stereotypes!

  329. Alexander the Great

    @ Lauren You said: "The thing I find most disturbing in these comments is the implicit notion of ownership. Judging from what a lot of these guys have written, a Western female (and maybe any female) is measured in terms of her attractiveness, subservience and datability—in short, “what good are you to me?” My response: We don't want ownership, this isn't the Victorian 1800s, we (men) just want to be respected equally in the dating, relationship/marriage scene. People are measured by their personality and how you treat others -- Western women, mores specifically, American women have generally a bad attitude and view towards men. This is the whole problem why men are complaining. We love strong independent, educated, strong willed women, assertiveness, in women. But DON'T confuse them with being jaded, aggressive, rude, self-centeredness, self-entitled and a chip on your shoulder. There is a huge difference. Try saying something nice towards men, I bet you have to force yourself to say it. You Said: Take the SF dress example. That’s totally me in Converse and jeans. I dress that way cause it’s comfortable. The objective in my getting dressed every morning isn’t to attract men. I dress for my lifestyle, for me. Is that what these commentors mean by “self-centered”?—that I live my life for me, in a way that makes me happy? My response: No American guy gives a shit how women dresses. If they dress sexy, conservative, more power to them. We don't care. This isn't the issue. Stop living in the past thinking this is the whole problem in today's dating scene. You said: That just strikes me as really really sad. I wouldn’t be interested in a guy that came at me that way, and wouldn’t expect a guy whose interactions with the opposite sex were framed entirely in that context to be remotely attracted to me. My response: The feeling is mutual. I would never date a woman that tries to feign martyrdom just because she can't have it her way or the high way, when someone calls it out on her -- then she thinks it's because she's independent. In a relationship, both need to compromise, not just the guy having to do all the work, while the woman does nothing and just breaks it off on a whim if she doesn't like the guy's work in the relationship. You said: But the thing that really bums me out about this whole discussion is this focus on outside validation: having vs. not having a mate, attracting vs. not attracting the opposite sex. When I say that I’m living my life for me, I mean that I want to be the source of my own happiness, not constantly searching for this acceptance and approval from men to measure my self-worth. And I don’t think that’s just me being a feminist; I hear that kind of desperate searching in the male commentors even louder than in the female ones. My response: We don't care how you seek happiness, nor how you try to fit in to society. If you're rude, obnoxious, and flexing your misandry behavior -- we won't date you. It's that simple. I didn't bother reading the rest, because it strikes me as rhetorical bullcrap. LISTEN to the men's complaints on why they hate dating. It has NOTHING to do with women being strong, independent, educated, etc. It has EVERYTHING to do how they're being treated by women in a relationship. Jesus Christ, talk about selective listening.

  330. Anonymous

    alex: ++I didn’t bother reading the rest, because it strikes me as rhetorical bullcrap. LISTEN to the men’s complaints on why they hate dating. It has NOTHING to do with women being strong, independent, educated, etc. It has EVERYTHING to do how they’re being treated by women in a relationship. Jesus Christ, talk about selective listening.++ As I was telling worldtraveler, it's not just about relationships, but everyday interactions like working and shopping. And it is getting worse, as they look to engaging in flash mobbing. I have seen a couple of vids of them on youtube doing this. Some guy put some posters up downtown somewhere and in no short time a mob of females and show up. and start taking them down. They signup for various citizen corps and other watch groups and abuse it to further their agenda. i experienced it from 'meals on wheels' in which I looked them up to find out they are also a watchdog outfit. I'm not saying all women are involved in this, but the activists do seem to get temporary fleeting support from certain businesses and neighbors and may even tamper with any security cams and destroy evidence. So if you are a witness to this sort of behavior go get some video equipment.

  331. WorldTraveler

    @ shelley: again, you claim not to be demanding, but at the same time you demand everyone to grow up and get out of nursery. Tell me, since when telling the truth and having own thoughts and visions of life is not being a grown up? Why does truth and a dose of reality always make North American females so uncomfortable? What's wrong with not being politically correct, daring to stand up and be counted, having own thoughts, values and visions in life? I'm very demanding to myself in all aspects, be it my physical appearance or intellectual abilities, but at the same time such an approach gives me a chance to be somewhat demanding to others as well. It's nothing bad in it, it's mutually beneficial. Many ladies love to put a laundry list of requirements on a male, but simply can't accept when a male happens to have his OWN priorities, values, standards and requirements!

  332. GrahamCordin

    The truth of the matter in America is this. Men have never changed. Most women have, Big Time. And for the worst.

  333. WorldTraveler

    Incorrect, Graham. Men also changed, and for the worst as well. They became pussified creatures with no self esteem, no desire to stand up and be counted on, to lead by example, without own thoughts and opinions and bought into a TV propaganda about political correctness, affirmative action and feminism. Men allowed women to change for the worst by lowering men's standards and criteria when selecting a mate, and willing to settle with whoever comes first and does not object a lot or pressures them too much. It's a fault of BOTH males AND females, it's all tightly interconnected and can't exist one without the other.

  334. GrahamCordin

    World Traveler, Yes, to a certain degree men have caved in,but the action of women finding their way or voice into the world was inevitable. During WWII they started working much more. Men were away. During the sixties they got more involved politically. They got behind each other and gained momentum because they felt there was a great desire for change. Have men fought for their own rights? Most men haven't felt this urgency. I don't think men LET women gain power. Women FOUND their power within their own group. They found that they are an essential and influential part of society and can be heard by making a lot of political noise. Women learned to make their own decisions and discovered what they wanted out of life , and that is exactly what they did. I know that you think this is where men let themselves get walked on, but I don't think so. A large part of those things you say are true,but I think this change evolved inevitably. It's more complex. Women have put a lot of this change on themselves. THEY decided to work, not to have children, or have a family,etc. Men's needs haven't changed much. For the most part, they still want traditional roles and a traditional family. A large population of women don't want this because THEY have no desire for it. Women have their own minds. But yes, many men in N. America and around the world for that matter are pussies when dealing with chicks.

  335. rt66hobo

    "THEY decided to work, not to have children, or have a family,etc. Men’s needs haven’t changed much. For the most part, they still want traditional roles and a traditional family. A large population of women don’t want this because THEY have no desire for it. Women have their own minds." I seen a reports stating about 20% men and 1/3 of women interested in family life, not most. And seen one from Solon where fewer women than men are into marriage and kids, but still not the majority.

  336. WorldTraveler

    I'd say it's both correct and incorrect.... It's nothing bad in women willing to work more, to be more independent and more involved politically!! I'm all for equality. The thing is that man, dealing with a lady, should always remain A MAN, which means not being afraid to stand up and be counted, leading by example, treating people around him with utmost respect,attention and care, and supporting his lady in all aspects of life. BOTH parts are equal in a relationship or in a family, both are equally important and should support each other. The problem is that modern North American or Western European lady fully expects a male to come prepared to give her everything in life without asking for anything back, meaning a minimum of 5000$ monthly salary after tax, a nice condo or a house and a couple of nice cars, one of which would be given to the lady immediately. Women these days do not believe in developing a family, evolving as a family. They want it all and now. They are willingly whoring themselves to the first avaiblable person loaded with money and stuff and do not care about honesty, respect, support, mutual understanding and integrity of a person with money, they are ready to tolerate abuse just to be close to the money. Money comes first, second and third, all the rest doesn't even matter for modern North American women....

  337. Mike

    I feel like responding to this one particular post by Caitlan because it's hilarious. Caitlin May 10, 2012 at 10:15 am "This thread is bizarre. It seems like everyone is seriously hating on empowered women. It really reinforces the stereotype that men who travel to Asia are looking for women who will cater to their needs (in a mix of 1950s housewife and Victoria Secret sex doll style.)" 1950's housewife and sex doll? It sounds like you are 'seriously' insulting your own grandmother, she 'seriously' must be proud, 'like, literally'. Thanks for filling us in on what 'empowered' Western women think of expatriate men and the Asian women that love them. How dare a man seek a partner overseas who cares about his needs when he could have a Western pig that doesn't satisfy any of his needs whatsoever? "I feel bad for the Western women in Asia trying to date, but it seems like most of them would be unhappy with the unequal power dynamic Asian men, and most expat men, expect. Men who hate on empowered Western women — just stick to the Asian women who are taught to put the men in their lives before themselves. " I feel bad that Western women are in Asia at all. I think Western women should absolutely stay in the West and so should the poor emasculated brain-washed saps that choose to stay with them. Why a Western woman would want to leave the West defies logic... unless she is fat looking for chubby chasers with no standards (scroll down to hear Caitlan tell us where to find foreign men that love fat Western women). "My experience dating abroad has been extremely positive, though I have only travel in South America and Africa. So I would say go to those places if you are an American woman looking for lots of male attention! (In Africa, I was even told a few times that I was too skinny to be truly sexy.) " So you got hit on a lot by Latin and black guys that want sex from fat Western chicks? You do realize you can get the same thing at every single bar and nightclub in the West? You define the 'easy' lay that men here are talking about if you actually fell for the 'too skinny' line and let the dude into your XXL underwear. "My guess is that when I travel to Seoul this year, I won’t get as much attention because I am 5’6″ and curvy (150lbs.) But that is okay, because my boyfriend is coming with me and I don’t want any temptation. " My guess is you won't get much attention there either, considering the local competition blows you out of your whale tank. 5-6 and 150 lbs is not 'curvy' sweetie, it's 'round'. Good to know you won't be cheating on your boyfriend because he decided to come with you for some reason. BTW, you've done a fabulous job of disproving the assertions made here regarding the merits of young Western women Caitlin, I hope to see more contributions like yours.

  338. Mike

    Regarding the topic at hand, this generation of North American (Western, Westernized, or Americanized) women have earned their reputation, and whether or not that reputation is good or bad depends what you are looking for. This applies to Western women from a number of 'Americanized' countries, not just countries in North America. I expatriated from West to East because of a great many issues, of which relationship dynamics between men and women was only one part of a much bigger mountain of problems in the West. If an expat guy wants casual sex from someone who isn't technically a prostitute, the Western girl is most likely going to be much easier than local girls. If an expat guy wants a good girlfriend or a good wife, he should stick with the locals, hands down. Western women have earned their reputation. They can and will get mad, deny it, and throw blame and insults when it's brought up, but at the end of the day their reputation is completely within their own control. If you are a Western woman and you want dates, I highly suggest you stay out of Asia. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but you simply CANNOT compete here. Why come here? Do you expect that all cultures must bow down and adopt your Western desires and beliefs. Why should they when they see what's happening in America and the UK. The golden age is over for the West. Here's a tip ladies... stay home, you have it very very good, despite the lies you've been taught in school and womens studies 101.

  339. Becca

    I have to agree, at least, with the idea that Americans in general are spoiled. After traveling and living abroad, I can see why the rest of the world thinks that about us (I'm from the US). Americans often seem to expect luxuries and good treatment wherever they go, and you can pretty much get anything you want, any time, in the States, and when Americans travel, they expect that same level of convenience and instant gratification.

  340. shelley

    here's an idea! boycott all americans, because judging by this thread, they are unable to grow up! i'd rather be single! i am sick of all this petty bickering, don't moan at me if you only resort to childishness and pettiness! if i was to date anyone, i'd rather they had a spark of life, as opposed to being a pre programmed stereotype!

  341. WorldTraveler

    Right on, Mike, right on! A perfect description of life's values of a Western woman. Every woman in the Western world considers herlsef entitled to whatever the good things she might get from life in general and a male in particular. Yes, entitled. Here is an attitude of a Western woman:" ME ME ME first, and then MAY BE you". Yes, MAY BE, depending on the mood she's in or the amount of expensive gifts and stuff you've spoiled her with that day. Western women have an attitude of an Ice Queen when dealing with a normal white male, but immediately melt when they encounter someone loaded with money or when they take a trip to Africa or Latin America for the sole purpose of having unattached sex. But when they are back to North America, it's the Ice Queen again as soon as she sets her foot on the North American soil. North American woman can not stand an independent and outspoken man, who respects himself and knows what he wants in life. Mike is right-North American females should stay where they are, in North America. They have it amazingly good there, even if they do not realize it themselves...

  342. J. Allen

    *finishes reading comments* "Mother....................... Of..................... God"